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Post by rukidding (towns local troll) on Dec 2, 2013 12:15:47 GMT -6
The ACO are on call and often times their phones ring at all hours. Here are some things you SHOULD be aware of: 1: The second ACO doesn't have the equipment to deal with multiple dogs. 2: By law, if the animals are claimed by their owner before the ACO gets on the scene and the dogs haven't actually hurt anyone, they can not take the dog, a ticket can be issued for them being off leash and at large. 3: The ACO have to follow the laws and the rules their bosses lay down. 4: If the ACO wants to go out of town for a night, they have the right to do so just like everyone else. 5: There is no leash law for cats. 6: If a dog runs onto your property and your dog attacks it, you and the your dog are not held accountable for the injuries to that dog. As it was on your property. The other dog was at large and it falls on the other owners shoulders. 7: Yes, both ACO live outside city limits, no it is not unfair. 8: Screaming, stamping, making yourself look bigger then you are, thrusting your body closer to the dog will generally help stop a charge. 9: The ACO has a right to sleep and if they happen to miss a call because of the hour, that's fine because we don't want a half asleep person out there trying to handle aggressive dogs. The cops CAN handle some situations. 10: If your dog goes missing, CALL the police department and city hall to report it! I got a dog once from the shelter, then three months later the last owner was like, OMG MY DOG. So please, call the moment you loose your dog. 11: I am not married nor related to either ACO. 12: NEVER take a dog off someones property, EVER. This is theft, regardless of the situation. Never.. EVER take a dog from its own property. (This has happened.) 13: If a dog is starving, the best thing you can do is call ACO, and not feed it. Peggy, the humane investigator says regardless of how its being fed, if a dog is being fed? They cant take it. So CALL! 14: If you can not control your dog, don't have a dog. Be responsible, leashes, lines and keep verbal command over your dog at all times. Don't loose your pet, or someone elses because you could of bought a five dollar leash and saved a life. Or even a cheap length of rope tied to their collar. 15: Consider an electric fence to keep your dog inside your property. See #6 16: You have the right to protect yourself. If you pass the class you CAN carry a taser if I am not mistaken. 17: Consider a paintball gun. Non lethal, hurts like a b****. 18: German shepherds don't have tear ducts. Pepper spray wont work on them. 19: Other legal ways to protect yourself that will not cause you or anyone else to fall over screaming in eye blinding pain, consider the following: Wild Cat Keychains. A metal baton. A bat A sap cap. Even just a knife. 18: German shepherds don't have tear ducts.Where did You get THIS MISINFORMATION?
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Post by ~MnM~ on Dec 3, 2013 13:53:55 GMT -6
Yeah, really ^^^ if they didn't their eyeballs would dry up...?
ICK........... M
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Post by ~MnM~ on Dec 3, 2013 14:03:38 GMT -6
M How many poster were AGAINST that "door to door canvansing? "Just another way for the City to Make Money, Infringe on MY rights", blah, blah, blah. Why can't they get in touch with the local ACO when a dog is running loose? It takes funding, it takes (gasp) TAXES. Why can't we get in touch with the ONE ACO in Streator 365/24/7? Golly dam%, why should I be TAXED to pay for an ACO if I don't own a pet? Unfortunately, I pay those taxes for an ACO, and we do need more than one in Streator, because we have too many IRRESPONSIBLE PET OWNERS! g I wish that they would go door to door like was stated to happen...so what did happen with that plan then? Yesterday and today there's been the same black and tan male German Shepherd running around our block again. I called the SPD yesterday because I was barricaded in my car and didn't have the number to get an ACO ....the SPD transferred me over to City Hall, in turn an ACO called me right back, and they were going to be checking the area for him. Obviously they were unable to locate this dog since now today yet AGAIN....here is he back on our block running at large. At least today I was able to call directly to City Hall, I never received a phone call back this time though. The dog I last saw heading towards the alley behind the Streator Historical Museum. An hour later....here this same dog comes back, but this time he is running with a Jack Russel terrier....this is ridiculous to say the least. I don't know if these dogs have a home, but the little terrier was wearing a brown collar. Does anyone happen to know who these dogs do belong to? M
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Post by Family Man on Dec 3, 2013 16:28:20 GMT -6
I've seen that German Shepard too, M. He's been down this way too.
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Post by ~MnM~ on Dec 3, 2013 17:20:27 GMT -6
So FM did you call City Hall to report that with an ACO? Please do call them anytime that you happen to see him running around here. I don't want to find out if he is vicious, especially when my grand daughter comes here, or I take Otis outside. I don't think that you want your children to find that out either. Please report him FM........... thanks, M
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Post by Family Man on Dec 3, 2013 17:55:18 GMT -6
So FM did you call City Hall to report that with an ACO? Please do call them anytime that you happen to see him running around here. I don't want to find out if he is vicious, especially when my grand daughter comes here, or I take Otis outside. I don't think that you want your children to find that out either. Please report him FM........... thanks, M I didn't call, but my neighbor did. I agree, M. I have to walk with a cane now more often than not and put my three year old on the bus in the morning and off in the afternoon. I couldn't fight off a dog if I had to, except to be able to swing my cane at it. We will keep reporting him every time we see him.
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Post by greekgod on Dec 3, 2013 21:55:43 GMT -6
I'm not sure of the specifics... but I don't believe its black and white.across the board....if its something severe, I've known dogs to be put down on the first bite.... I just don't think any city ordinance should be.against.a specific breed ... any type of dog can become vicious depending on a lot of different things lovingit, I believe the City Ordinance does not and, according to State Law, cannot specify a particular breed. So, that point is a non-issue. If you find out I'm incorrect please let us know. The issue is not about a DOG, it's about "Irresponsible DOG OWNERS"!!! g
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Post by dive61364 on Dec 3, 2013 22:15:09 GMT -6
`The issue is not about a DOG, it's about "Irresponsible DOG OWNERS"!!!'
you nailed it on the head greekgod.
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Post by stiggy on Dec 3, 2013 22:39:01 GMT -6
I believe it should be unlawful to own and keep any animal that is capable of overpowering an average adult human being. Don't care if it's a tiger, chimpanzee, poisonous snake, mountain lion or dogs. Animals, especially predatory species, are unpredictable at best and determinately vicious at worst.
Service animals or specialty guard dogs of a certain size should be registered and the owners securely bonded and insured. Other than that no one needs a 40, 50 or 60 lb. dog of any breed. Lets face it a 10 or 15 lb. dog isn't physically capable of serious injury or death of the average adult human being.
There are laws against owning and keeping other predatory animals dangerous to humans why are dogs any different?
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Post by Problem Dog on Dec 4, 2013 0:08:37 GMT -6
I believe it should be unlawful to own and keep any animal that is capable of overpowering an average adult human being. Don't care if it's a tiger, chimpanzee, poisonous snake, mountain lion or dogs. Animals, especially predatory species, are unpredictable at best and determinately vicious at worst. Service animals or specialty guard dogs of a certain size should be registered and the owners securely bonded and insured. Other than that no one needs a 40, 50 or 60 lb. dog of any breed. Lets face it a 10 or 15 lb. dog isn't physically capable of serious injury or death of the average adult human being. There are laws against owning and keeping other predatory animals dangerous to humans why are dogs any different? Well, there goes most farm animals and MOST dog breeds. Just because some people are complete idiots and can't control their animals doesn't mean those that are responsible should be punished. Or better yet, those animals that you seem to think should be rounded up and done away with in a mass genocide. I own Great Danes. Some of the largest yet gentlest, most docile dogs you'll ever meet. I can physically control ALL my dogs and I'm a five foot woman. It has nothing to do with the animals. It's the people that own them. I cannot believe it's so hard for some people to understand this. That's like saying we should ban all motor vehicles because some people drive drunk and kill people as a result.
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Post by itsonlyme on Dec 4, 2013 4:39:49 GMT -6
I believe it should be unlawful to own and keep any animal that is capable of overpowering an average adult human being. Don't care if it's a tiger, chimpanzee, poisonous snake, mountain lion or dogs. Animals, especially predatory species, are unpredictable at best and determinately vicious at worst. Service animals or specialty guard dogs of a certain size should be registered and the owners securely bonded and insured. Other than that no one needs a 40, 50 or 60 lb. dog of any breed. Lets face it a 10 or 15 lb. dog isn't physically capable of serious injury or death of the average adult human being. There are laws against owning and keeping other predatory animals dangerous to humans why are dogs any different? Well, there goes most farm animals and MOST dog breeds. Just because some people are complete idiots and can't control their animals doesn't mean those that are responsible should be punished. Or better yet, those animals that you seem to think should be rounded up and done away with in a mass genocide. I own Great Danes. Some of the largest yet gentlest, most docile dogs you'll ever meet. I can physically control ALL my dogs and I'm a five foot woman. It has nothing to do with the animals. It's the people that own them. I cannot believe it's so hard for some people to understand this. That's like saying we should ban all motor vehicles because some people drive drunk and kill people as a result. If one of your dogs, for whatever reason, decides to go crazy and wants to attack a person or another animal, there is no way you would be able to control that dog.
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Post by cityslicker on Dec 4, 2013 6:36:36 GMT -6
This argument could be applied to gun ownership, as well. Yet there are do-gooders who want to do away the second amendment. The squeaky wheel, gets the grease.
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Post by Jaded on Dec 4, 2013 8:05:36 GMT -6
Service animals or specialty guard dogs of a certain size should be registered and the owners securely bonded and insured. Other than that no one needs a 40, 50 or 60 lb. dog of any breed. Lets face it a 10 or 15 lb. dog isn't physically capable of serious injury or death of the average adult human being.There are laws against owning and keeping other predatory animals dangerous to humans why are dogs any different? This is where I'm calling BS. Ever seen a chihuahua do physical damage to someone? Ever seen a toy poodle so aggressive that it literally not let anyone near it's owner? I have. For being little dogs those are vicious little breeds. And don't give me the it's how they are raised crap (yes I do believe this is the case, in most cases), the chihuahua came from a home surrounded by young children that did nothing to it (this was my best friend's dog at the time and I was over there quite often)...it was not abused in anyway, but you can bet your a$$ it was the meanest little dog I've ever seen. And the poodle, honestly she was a stray so I can't tell you her origins but she was just as mean, and wouldn't let you within a foot of my mother. And if you were lucky enough to make it within that foot, mom had to be holding on to her otherwise she'd try and rip your arm off. So don't give that crap 10-15 lb dogs aren't physically capable of doing serious injury. Where are you getting your information stiggy?
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Post by ~MnM~ on Dec 4, 2013 14:17:13 GMT -6
So FM did you call City Hall to report that with an ACO? Please do call them anytime that you happen to see him running around here. I don't want to find out if he is vicious, especially when my grand daughter comes here, or I take Otis outside. I don't think that you want your children to find that out either. Please report him FM........... thanks, M I didn't call, but my neighbor did. I agree, M. I have to walk with a cane now more often than not and put my three year old on the bus in the morning and off in the afternoon. I couldn't fight off a dog if I had to, except to be able to swing my cane at it. We will keep reporting him every time we see him. First of all I am so sorry to hear of your condition FM...you should call Butthead for a massage, it would do you much good. God, I hate to hear this...and I wish you all the best and hopefully a great recuperation. So, FM I am glad to hear that your neighbor did call, and glad to hear that you'll continue to call. We don't know this dog, or what it would do to any child or other animal, and it is ILLEGAL for this dog to keep on running around this neighborhood. Hopefully one of the ACO's will catch him and inform the owner, if there is one that is...that he needs to be kept chained, and that neighbors around here are very concerned about this situation. I was gone from here all morning and just returned...so if he was again roaming our neighborhood I didn't have the chance to see him. Hopefully if you or any of the other neighbors did then it would have gotten reported. Thank you.......... M
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Post by ~MnM~ on Dec 4, 2013 14:19:27 GMT -6
`The issue is not about a DOG, it's about "Irresponsible DOG OWNERS"!!!' you nailed it on the head greekgod. DITTO.......and hence the thread title here........is what my intentions of posting it was for. M
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