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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Nov 9, 2013 9:35:57 GMT -6
Hey Oldtimer, I've been meaning to post this picture for a while. You must not have seen this building or I'm sure you'd be screaming about it on here. It is painted with bright colors on a much bigger percentage of the building and a lot more visible than mine:  "] I doubt that the owners read SO though, so I looked up their contact information so that you could call them idiots with no business sense bringing down property values here and warn them of the death threats they could receive for painting their building with bright colors. AutoZone Corporate Office Address AutoZone Inc. 123 S. Front St Memphis, TN 38103 Contact AutoZone Phone Number: (901) 495-6500 Fax Number: (901) 495-8300 Website: www.autozone.com Email: www.autozone.com/autozone/contactus/customerService.jsp?landingPageCategory=inOurStores&title=customer+serviceExecutives CEO: William C. Rhodes III CFO: William T. Giles COO: Harry L. Goldsmith You do understand that the auto zone building is not downtown? You understand that the city wants to have a conform law for buildings in the downtown area? Do you understand the difference between downtown buildings and the auto zone and how the law would effect those buildings in the downtown area? If you would have spent as much time on your aquaponics proposal as you did researching auto zone you may have been approved. I dont like the way you painted your building and it appears the city agrees. You have to get over the fact that me and the city don't and move on. This thread was started a month ago. Man up and move on. I will not comment in this month old thread again. You are disappearing from another thread, and even before you hear a response? Do you have that little faith in what you say that even as you are saying it, you know that you are not willing to stick around to back it up? Here is the Times article on the issue; it does not say that it is being considered just for downtown buildings: Streator may consider architectural, appearance guidelines for new businesses
04/10/2013, 1:15 am
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Jerrilyn Zavada, jzavada@mywebtimes.com, 815-673-6371
Streator officials will consider a March plan commission motion for the city to determine architectural and appearance guidelines for new businesses.
Similar guidelines already are in place for businesses the size of Walmart. The new guidelines would apply to smaller, newly built businesses.
At a Committee of the Whole meeting Tuesday, City Manager Paul Nicholson said the city would roll potential guidelines into the comprehensive plan to be considered more broadly.
City Councilman Ed Benner disagrees with the idea of establishing further guidelines, saying it is unlikely any new business is going to paint their business orange, for example, and therefore be offensive to the public.
"How are we going to write guidelines for architecturally pleasing? Who determines what is architecturally pleasing?" Benner asked. "Look at the new buildings recently. They're all fine."
City Engineer Jeremy Palm noted many other municipalities have similar guidelines in place.It sounds to me like they are considering the restrictions for all of Streator. So if a company like AutoZone wants to build and brand a store downtown or anywhere here, they do not want it to be allowed. I don't think we should be stopping business. It took me about 30 seconds to research AutoZone to provide that information. I spent months researching Aquaponics, touring facilities, talking to industry experts, etc. It was one of those experts that recommended that we go to our City to find out what was required by them before taking any further action. No matter how much research we did on Aquaponics, I really doubt that we would have ever been approved for the City's ridiculously extreme, unjustified industrial zoning requirement |
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Post by dog on Nov 9, 2013 9:57:23 GMT -6
You do understand that the auto zone building is not downtown? You understand that the city wants to have a conform law for buildings in the downtown area? Do you understand the difference between downtown buildings and the auto zone and how the law would effect those buildings in the downtown area? If you would have spent as much time on your aquaponics proposal as you did researching auto zone you may have been approved. I dont like the way you painted your building and it appears the city agrees. You have to get over the fact that me and the city don't and move on. This thread was started a month ago. Man up and move on. I will not comment in this month old thread again. You are disappearing from another thread, and even before you hear a response? Do you have that little faith in what you say that even as you are saying it, you know that you are not willing to stick around to back it up? Here is the Times article on the issue; it does not say that it is being considered just for downtown buildings: Streator may consider architectural, appearance guidelines for new businesses
04/10/2013, 1:15 am
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Jerrilyn Zavada, jzavada@mywebtimes.com, 815-673-6371
Streator officials will consider a March plan commission motion for the city to determine architectural and appearance guidelines for new businesses.
Similar guidelines already are in place for businesses the size of Walmart. The new guidelines would apply to smaller, newly built businesses.
At a Committee of the Whole meeting Tuesday, City Manager Paul Nicholson said the city would roll potential guidelines into the comprehensive plan to be considered more broadly.
City Engineer Jeremy Palm noted many other municipalities have similar guidelines in place.It sounds to me like they are considering the restrictions for all of Streator. I think it is a good idea to consider doing it for new construction. Having something that is more generic looking might be easier for the city to "sell" to a potential business in the case the original owner was unfortunate to not succeed and had to close the doors. I see it was pointed out that other municipalities have similar guidelines in place. I am a person who is for less regulation, but feel that some regulation is needed. If other towns have regulations and we don't, then stand to pick up more businesses, but we also have the possibility to pick up businesses that might be detrimental too. Then, once we have already opened the barn door, it would be harder to rid the town of some of these problem businesses. I don't believe in Kyle's approach that we need to relax our restrictions just for the sake of attracting businesses to fill our vacant downtown. Would you welcome a 24hr adult video "rub and tug" store, with a sign outside that had had the silhouette of a naked lady and the word "adult", as your neighbor. In your opinion Kyle, what would keep customers away from your shore? Being next to a store like that, that operated during the same hours as your store, or a bar across the street that has problems that predominately occur long after you are closed? |
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Nov 9, 2013 12:17:45 GMT -6
I think it is a good idea to consider doing it for new construction. Having something that is more generic looking might be easier for the city to "sell" to a potential business in the case the original owner was unfortunate to not succeed and had to close the doors. I see it was pointed out that other municipalities have similar guidelines in place. I am a person who is for less regulation, but feel that some regulation is needed. If other towns have regulations and we don't, then stand to pick up more businesses, but we also have the possibility to pick up businesses that might be detrimental too. Then, once we have already opened the barn door, it would be harder to rid the town of some of these problem businesses. I don't believe in Kyle's approach that we need to relax our restrictions just for the sake of attracting businesses to fill our vacant downtown. Would you welcome a 24hr adult video "rub and tug" store, with a sign outside that had had the silhouette of a naked lady and the word "adult", as your neighbor. In your opinion Kyle, what would keep customers away from your shore? Being next to a store like that, that operated during the same hours as your store, or a bar across the street that has problems that predominately occur long after you are closed? So, we don't want to allow a company like AutoZone to build a new building and paint how they like, because it would be too hard for new owners to paint over it? That doesn't make sense to me. We already have laws keeping a business like you suggest from existing here, I haven't been asking that we change that. With the lack of business that we have now, I certainly don't think that we need to be adding more restrictions. |
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Post by dog on Nov 9, 2013 12:38:31 GMT -6
I think it is a good idea to consider doing it for new construction. Having something that is more generic looking might be easier for the city to "sell" to a potential business in the case the original owner was unfortunate to not succeed and had to close the doors. I see it was pointed out that other municipalities have similar guidelines in place. I am a person who is for less regulation, but feel that some regulation is needed. If other towns have regulations and we don't, then stand to pick up more businesses, but we also have the possibility to pick up businesses that might be detrimental too. Then, once we have already opened the barn door, it would be harder to rid the town of some of these problem businesses. I don't believe in Kyle's approach that we need to relax our restrictions just for the sake of attracting businesses to fill our vacant downtown. Would you welcome a 24hr adult video "rub and tug" store, with a sign outside that had had the silhouette of a naked lady and the word "adult", as your neighbor. In your opinion Kyle, what would keep customers away from your shore? Being next to a store like that, that operated during the same hours as your store, or a bar across the street that has problems that predominately occur long after you are closed? So, we don't want to allow a company like AutoZone to build a new building and paint how they like, because it would be too hard for new owners to paint over it? That doesn't make sense to me. We already have laws keeping a business like you suggest from existing here, I haven't been asking that we change that. With the lack of business that we have now, I certainly don't think that we need to be adding more restrictions. I was suggesting that stand alone buildings would be given a little more leeway, especially when it is part of their design that has been nationally accepted. I am sorry, I must have misunderstood your agenda and were for also in favor of relaxing restrictions in an effort to attract businesses too. |
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Nov 9, 2013 12:45:45 GMT -6
Well yes, I am in favor of relaxing some restrictions to be able to attract business.
If we did not have the ridiculous industrial zoning restriction for Aquaponics, I think we would have a much better chance of attracting those businesses.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Nov 9, 2013 14:05:58 GMT -6
I have seen AutoZones and other corporate stores that are located in strip malls where they have adopted the earthen tones for the buildings, so they were unable to use a lot of their corporate logo/striping combinations. Lets face it, there has to be mix in the regulations. Certainly if all the buildings were in an earthen tone, it could be less detrimental than having a bright pink building as a neighbor. Finding a new lease might also be easier. I couldn't imagine having a bright red buiding in one block, a lime green building in the next block, etc, in downtown Ottawa. It would clash negatively with the look they are trying to achieve. Now in a place like Manitou Springs,CO, I would expect every building to be unique and "patchwork" looking since that is the look they are striving for. Both the earthen tone look and the patchwork look will work, depending on the region, the clientele, and other factors but I cant see them working in the same area at the same time. I guess it just depends on the vision you want for your community. I think the newer shopping areas where buildings are tied together should be in the earthen tones. Stand alone buildings should have more of the flexibility to express themselves. Downtown areas are a toss up for me. I like the way Ottawa's downtown looks, but at times I like the eclectic look of a place where each building is bright and contrasts with its neighbor. It all depends on the businesses you think you can attract along with the customer base that will support it. Kyle's vision tends to lean towards that "hodge podge" patchwork look and could very well work. I tend to lean towards a downtown more like Ottawa. Even though it looks pretty, I wouldn't sacrifice all those parking spots the way they did. They have created a nice atmosphere with their parks, and they have many events geared towards their downtown area and we could do the same here with the improvements we have made in the park. I apologize for not catching this sooner. If you are going to set me up, it would be remiss of me to not take advantage. It looks to me like "hodge poodge patchwork" is the look our city has already decided to strive for  :  |
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Post by chevypower on Nov 9, 2013 15:34:32 GMT -6
Right out of a Picasso painting lol
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Post by Anonymous on Nov 9, 2013 15:44:51 GMT -6
Well yes, I am in favor of relaxing some restrictions to be able to attract business. If we did not have the ridiculous industrial zoning restriction for Aquaponics, I think we would have a much better chance of attracting those businesses.Hahahahahahahaha!!!! Sure, we would! Oh my gosh, my eyes are watering from laughing so hard. You are a hoot Kyle. You're entertaining, I will give you that. |
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Post by father of two on Nov 10, 2013 15:50:35 GMT -6
Driving down Main St today and looking at the old building behind Monroe Tap, I believe that the reason that this portion of the building remains is because the buildings to the east share a common wall with it and when the front portion was torn down this part remained for structure safety. Of course, the City should make sure the building is secure.
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Post by chevypower on Nov 10, 2013 15:57:53 GMT -6
Firewall I think
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Post by usafmike76 on Nov 10, 2013 19:29:53 GMT -6
Yes. More government! Just what we need in the land of the free. You know government officials at all levels have proven to be so proficient at regulation and law making.....
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Post by ~MnM~ on Nov 10, 2013 20:23:56 GMT -6
Driving down Main St today and looking at the old building behind Monroe Tap, I believe that the reason that this portion of the building remains is because the buildings to the east share a common wall with it and when the front portion was torn down this part remained for structure safety. Of course, the City should make sure the building is secure. I just have a question here regarding Lloyd's Surplus......what year did they actually go out of business? I loved going in there for painter pant jeans, lol. Speaking of downtown painted buildings, here is the barn downtown....which I think that it is cute.  M  |
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Post by seaturtle43 in hostile forum on Nov 10, 2013 21:37:46 GMT -6
oh that is cute. What building is that on?
I have never seen it before
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Post by ~MnM~ on Nov 10, 2013 21:43:50 GMT -6
ST........that's in the alley running north and south behind The Country Cupboard.............. M |
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Post by ~MnM~ on Nov 10, 2013 21:50:02 GMT -6
Oh and quite befittingly I saw a HORSE tied up in the back one day.......... LMAO.................ahahaha!!! M |
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