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Post by rukidding (towns local troll) on Jul 4, 2011 8:31:04 GMT -6
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Post by Lucky1 on Jul 4, 2011 8:37:02 GMT -6
Does it matter if it is an endless discussion? Don't read it if you don't like it. I was just hoping to let you know how you come across. Go back and look at your last 25 or 50 posts. Perhaps SO gives you a place to feel superior by putting down others to make yourself feel better?
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Post by robkersmarki on Jul 4, 2011 8:45:11 GMT -6
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Post by rukidding (towns local troll) on Jul 4, 2011 8:45:30 GMT -6
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Post by dive61364 on Jul 4, 2011 8:50:49 GMT -6
i find trolls posts amusing and never take them as serious.
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Post by rukidding (towns local troll) on Jul 4, 2011 8:51:49 GMT -6
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Post by bystander on Jul 4, 2011 12:09:22 GMT -6
The History Channel is not what used to be. It presents history in tabloid fashion.
It may present the true history on something, but it also presents myths. Often it presents a conglomeration of different theories on a particular subject. It allows John Q. Viewer to pick which points he wants to believe. It also confuses people. For the most part though, it just provides entertainment.
If you want real answers to spiritual questions, look into the bible.
Salvation and freedom from sin is through Jesus. (John 17:3; John 3:16) People can repent from their sins and change. (1st. Cor.6:9 - 11) For those that don't want to change, and continue to sin, they will not gain everlasting life. (Hebrews 10:26 & 27)
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Post by freedom12 on Jul 4, 2011 14:29:22 GMT -6
Who had the authority to translate the scrolls originally? To allow one religion to control translation of ancient religious documents, is not anti-Catholicism on my part, but goes to show how the church attempted to control and shape what came out of the discovery. If you wish to discuss a bias, maybe start with the church. When you have a "new"discovery, it is wise to have no preconceptions about it. Sending people who are hoping to confirm bibical writings to translate the scrolls is a perfect example of this. As for your concerns about Dr Eisenman, if you had to pick ten people in the world based upon knowledge about the subject matter at hand, he would be among them. You talk as if the Israelis have nothing to do with the scrolls. Why is that? I don't believe I made mention about Israeli's at all. They are Jewish writings, which no one will dispute. Was a Catholic priest in charge of the first translations done on the DSS's? I guess since you didn't counter that, it is correct. I believe there still is some dispute of the authors, of course, and also date. Essenes have been given credit by most.
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Post by rukidding (towns local troll) on Jul 4, 2011 15:12:21 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2011 15:21:59 GMT -6
You talk as if the Israelis have nothing to do with the scrolls. Why is that? I don't believe I made mention about Israeli's at all. They are Jewish writings, which no one will dispute. Was a Catholic priest in charge of the first translations done on the DSS's? I guess since you didn't counter that, it is correct. I believe there still is some dispute of the authors, of course, and also date. Essenes have been given credit by most. That's my point. The Israeli's had oversight of the translations along with experts of their own. It would be a reeeaaaal stretch to say that the Jews and Catholics were in cahoots to deceive the world about the content of the scrolls. There is enormous dispute between academics concerning the content and contexts contained within the scrolls. I find it interesting to read, but know that for some things like this, my academic background and casual reading can't cut it in making too many definitive statements about DSS issues.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2011 15:37:16 GMT -6
It's an endless cycle. [img src=" [/img] i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy207/ALXis0/circularlogic.jpg"] [/quote] Actually, I feel that Biblical knowledge is better represented in a linear fashion, with a point representing the first known texts and the line extending into infinity, because we will be trying forever to understand and decipher the truths, contradictions, and lessons contained within it. There are also many, many early Jewish and Christian writings not contained in the Old and New Testaments that serious scholars continue to work with in attempts to understand how they fit into the incredibly complicated world of ancient Jewish and Christian texts. Your circular representation is very true, though... depending on which Christian sect you're speaking of.
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Post by freedom12 on Jul 4, 2011 15:42:41 GMT -6
Never said anyone was in cahoots, just that some didn't like the fact that a Catholic priest was in charge. If you have been trained your whole life as a priest, you are prediposed to look at things in a certain way. New terms such as "Teacher of Rightiousness" and "Wicked Priest" are used in the scrolls. So someone has to tell the world what these terms mean.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2011 17:42:50 GMT -6
Never said anyone was in cahoots, just that some didn't like the fact that a Catholic priest was in charge. If you have been trained your whole life as a priest, you are prediposed to look at things in a certain way. New terms such as "Teacher of Rightiousness" and "Wicked Priest" are used in the scrolls. So someone has to tell the world what these terms mean. Academics are notorius for professional jealousies...even extending to murder. These folk are as free as the Catholics to interpret the scrolls any way they wish. As are you and I.These people were just angry that they were kept out of the mix. Those darn Catholics! That's a normal reaction. How much money do you think the Vatican had wired to Israeli Swiss bank accounts? My guess is a whole lot.
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Post by robkersmarki on Jul 4, 2011 19:27:22 GMT -6
So a priest walks into a bar and sits next to a Rabbi..... ; )
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Post by Shipman1 on Jul 4, 2011 23:00:35 GMT -6
If you believe in God, put him in your heart and home. To go out and let some organization tell you how they think you should live your life to make it to heaven is a bit out there. I'm amazed at how many people are duped by religions. At least a 100 different religions and all say their way or no way,,,,,lol Besides that they try, and most succeed, in taking lots of your income. Most will even say it's God's will for you to give up your money? ?? Ever hear such B.S? I'm sure each religion has found a quote in the bible, that through their interpretation, it says you are suppose to give them your money. try finding the exact quote that says you are suppose to go to church each Sunday and give them your money. I don't want to hear a passage about giving up valuables. Organized religion will only take money,the other things in life that you feel are your valuables. Try putting one of them items in the basket, and see what response you get from the leaders of the scam. Sorry for the rant, but it pisses me off they have duped our elderly for so long ,that they know no other way. Walk into most any church and you will see 90% are 50 yrs+ been lead to believe that there is only 1 way to worship God, the churches way.
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