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Post by Anonymous on May 11, 2015 12:13:21 GMT -6
Yes, Kyle, I made a suggestion and havent brought it up since. You explained and I stopped. Now you keep bringing it back up. You are smart enough to figure out all these things, but you arent smart enough to figure out what upside down means? By referencing Tim, I showed you a case of being upside down. I am not trying to cover his a$$ or justify or defend anything he does. I am using him as an example. For the record, I respect you for not running out on your financial obligations that you made. I agree it was wrong to solicit donations and then close the theater. I was just pointing out that people should have known that their donations came with no guarantee. I donated like others did to save the Majestic. If the Roxy would have asked for donations, I would have donated to save that place too. 20 years ago, I donated to a sports venue to help it re-open. It was a for-profit and I enjoy going there to this day. Tim is a sh!tbag for what he did in regards to the handling of the donations, but other than losing respect, isnt he better off walking away from his obligations. You are fortunate that you can still keep your morals. Everyday I see more and more people being better off because they legally play the system, whether I consider it morally acceptable or not. I find myself more willing to take those legal benefits, even if I find them morally offensive. I think the majority of members on this forum know what you mean/meant in all of your replies and posts to majesticmitchell. I also think the majority of members on here know your intentions are good though futile.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on May 11, 2015 15:25:01 GMT -6
Did you ask Derek to make the same inquiry with the Ottawa city officials since they have an identical ordinance requiring snow removal? Imagine how much more your employer could pay you if he wasn't saddled with the exorbitant cost of, heavens forbid, having to shovel the sidewalk a few times every year. Identical, wow! So are you saying that one City plagerized the other? Who had their's first? Was the other City just too lazy or not smart enough to just write their own? Is that supposed to make Strestor's ridiculous ordinance that is not followed and has done nothing to create a clear path for shoppers to navigate our downtown and puts perspective new business here under a huge expense or the threat of daily fines somehow seem acceptable? I dom't really care about Ottawa's ordinances because I haven't seen them practice selective enforcement and be vindictive like Strrator and there doesn't seem to be so many nosy people worried about other people's sidewalks, their perfectly legal animals, their personal fimances, how much they utilize their property, etc. If Ottawa's City leaders, decided to dig up Lincoln's body and bury it in their park to try to increase tourism creating a curse on their community, woild you think it would be a good idea for Streator too?
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on May 11, 2015 19:38:53 GMT -6
Yes, Kyle, I made a suggestion and havent brought it up since. You explained and I stopped. Now you keep bringing it back up. You are smart enough to figure out all these things, but you arent smart enough to figure out what upside down means? By referencing Tim, I showed you a case of being upside down. I am not trying to cover his a$$ or justify or defend anything he does. I am using him as an example. For the record, I respect you for not running out on your financial obligations that you made. I agree it was wrong to solicit donations and then close the theater. I was just pointing out that people should have known that their donations came with no guarantee. I donated like others did to save the Majestic. If the Roxy would have asked for donations, I would have donated to save that place too. 20 years ago, I donated to a sports venue to help it re-open. It was a for-profit and I enjoy going there to this day. Tim is a sh!tbag for what he did in regards to the handling of the donations, but other than losing respect, isnt he better off walking away from his obligations. You are fortunate that you can still keep your morals. Everyday I see more and more people being better off because they legally play the system, whether I consider it morally acceptable or not. I find myself more willing to take those legal benefits, even if I find them morally offensive. Of course I keep bringing it up. That is because I think it is such a ridiculous suggedtion that I had already addressed several times and was never even any of your business. I do know that owing more on your building than it will sell for would be considered being upside down, but if you have more of your own money into it (rather than some bank's money) than it will sell for, do you consider that being upside down? I don't think that he is better off walking away from his obligations. He had someone paying his mortgage and making a reasonable offer to buy it. I think he could have walked away without having to pay for a bankruptcy, damaging his credit, and making him look like such a sh!tbag to the community. Obviously you see it differently though. I think that Tim's "playing the system" is unnecessarily hurting others and is just wrong, but you seem to really support that type of activity, encouraging others to do the same. How much do you suppose it will cost taxpayers to demolish his buildinghe has walked away from?
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on May 11, 2015 20:04:41 GMT -6
I think they have some pretty uniform codes. There is some association of Cities in the region and they have pretty similar codes. Gee, I don't know.....if one state used an 8 sided sign and painted it red for a stop sign would it be just copying the next guy? I know some people ride you Kyle....but you kind of ask for it with your constant re-hashing of stuff. Don't let them push your buttons man. You DO have some good ideas, you may even have some merit with some of the things you say.....but your methods.....your methods will just turn people off and they won't give you the time of day......now that's just MY humble opinion. Thanks for respectfully providing your opinion. Just talking about the problems and asking for them to be corrected has proven to be ineffective here. Re-hashing it many times seems to be the only way to get any results. For example, it took over seven years of talking about the bar violence problems and asking for a solution for them to even start talking about one. It took years of re-hashing their ridiculous selectively enforced merchandise display ordinance to finally get it changed. I am confident that dog has read my multiple previous posts saying that I could not afford to just walk away from my investment, but he still stuck his nose into my personal affairs (while trying to claim that he is helping me). Don't you think that by re-hashing how ridiculous it is for him to make such uninformed suggestions that are none of his business might convince him (and others) to stop being so ridiculous and mind their own business? I sure do hope so.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on May 13, 2015 5:48:58 GMT -6
Yes, Kyle, I made a suggestion and havent brought it up since. You explained and I stopped. Now you keep bringing it back up. You are smart enough to figure out all these things, but you arent smart enough to figure out what upside down means? By referencing Tim, I showed you a case of being upside down. I am not trying to cover his a$$ or justify or defend anything he does. I am using him as an example. For the record, I respect you for not running out on your financial obligations that you made. I agree it was wrong to solicit donations and then close the theater. I was just pointing out that people should have known that their donations came with no guarantee. I donated like others did to save the Majestic. If the Roxy would have asked for donations, I would have donated to save that place too. 20 years ago, I donated to a sports venue to help it re-open. It was a for-profit and I enjoy going there to this day. Tim is a sh!tbag for what he did in regards to the handling of the donations, but other than losing respect, isnt he better off walking away from his obligations. You are fortunate that you can still keep your morals. Everyday I see more and more people being better off because they legally play the system, whether I consider it morally acceptable or not. I find myself more willing to take those legal benefits, even if I find them morally offensive. Of course I keep bringing it up. That is because I think it is such a ridiculous suggedtion that I had already addressed several times and was never even any of your business. I do know that owing more on your building than it will sell for would be considered being upside down, but if you have more of your own money into it (rather than some bank's money) than it will sell for, do you consider that being upside down? I don't think that he is better off walking away from his obligations. He had someone paying his mortgage and making a reasonable offer to buy it. I think he could have walked away without having to pay for a bankruptcy, damaging his credit, and making him look like such a sh!tbag to the community. Obviously you see it differently though. I think that Tim's "playing the system" is unnecessarily hurting others and is just wrong, but you seem to really support that type of activity, encouraging others to do the same. How much do you suppose it will cost taxpayers to demolish his building he has walked away from? Gee dog, after using your a$$umptions about my personal matters to try so hard to convince me to walk away from my investments and obligations, using Tim as an example of how great it can be, aren't you going to explain how it is that you think he will be so much better off? Didn't Katie offer to pay his entire mortgage even though he is upside down in it? Maybe he didn't think he was upside down, but didn't she also offer him $10K above appraised value? How is it that you think that he will be so much better off with a foreclosure, bankruptcy, and looking like even more of a sh!tbag to the people in his home town? With the down pours that we've had here over the last week, how much water do you think has poured through the open roof of the projection room to run down through the mezzanine level restrooms and on to the lobby? Of course it would run down hill to the deep end of his indoor swimming pool where there are electrical main chases under the floor. How many tens of thousands of damage do you think that it will add to the cost of any possible re-opening? I heard that before having his Floor to Ceiling legal consultants/eviction team board the place up, he had a truck here to get some of his prized possessions out. If it hasn't happened already, I would expect another truck load of speakers, amplifiers, and other theatre accessories to be hauled out before the bank takes possession. Unless Katie does some major fund raising, my guess would be that it will cost at least a couple hundred thousand for taxpayers to demolish the place. The City's agenda for yesterday's meeting included discussion of vacant/abandon building policies, but I didn't see where the newspaper reported what the outcome of that discussion was. Didn't our Mayor contact Tim about saving one of the centerpieces of their Downtown and Comprehensive Plans? It doesn't seem like he was able to get any positive results, does it?
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Post by Anonymous on May 13, 2015 6:26:33 GMT -6
Well, I have to say, what I witnessed yesterday caught me by surprise. I was driving right on Main St. about 4 in the afternoon and there was a conflict right outside the 50 yard line. There were about 6 young people out on the edge of the sidewalk and spilled over into the street and there seemed to be a disagreement and nearly a fight. One kid rode off on his bike looking pretty afraid and another was turning around looking like some mad dog ready to fight in the middle of the street when the light turned green. Okay...and do you know whether they were patrons of the bar or not? Young people seems to suggest they weren't old enough to be in the bar. If that's the case, then you are doing a disservice to the bar by linking their business to the altercation rather than using the location of SW corner of Main & Sterling.
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Post by dog on May 13, 2015 8:52:19 GMT -6
Of course I keep bringing it up. That is because I think it is such a ridiculous suggedtion that I had already addressed several times and was never even any of your business. I do know that owing more on your building than it will sell for would be considered being upside down, but if you have more of your own money into it (rather than some bank's money) than it will sell for, do you consider that being upside down? I don't think that he is better off walking away from his obligations. He had someone paying his mortgage and making a reasonable offer to buy it. I think he could have walked away without having to pay for a bankruptcy, damaging his credit, and making him look like such a sh!tbag to the community. Obviously you see it differently though. I think that Tim's "playing the system" is unnecessarily hurting others and is just wrong, but you seem to really support that type of activity, encouraging others to do the same. How much do you suppose it will cost taxpayers to demolish his building he has walked away from? Gee dog, after using your a$$umptions about my personal matters to try so hard to convince me to walk away from my investments and obligations, using Tim as an example of how great it can be, aren't you going to explain how it is that you think he will be so much better off? Didn't Katie offer to pay his entire mortgage even though he is upside down in it? Maybe he didn't think he was upside down, but didn't she also offer him $10K above appraised value? How is it that you think that he will be so much better off with a foreclosure, bankruptcy, and looking like even more of a sh!tbag to the people in his home town? With the down pours that we've had here over the last week, how much water do you think has poured through the open roof of the projection room to run down through the mezzanine level restrooms and on to the lobby? Of course it would run down hill to the deep end of his indoor swimming pool where there are electrical main chases under the floor. How many tens of thousands of damage do you think that it will add to the cost of any possible re-opening? I heard that before having his Floor to Ceiling legal consultants/eviction team board the place up, he had a truck here to get some of his prized possessions out. If it hasn't happened already, I would expect another truck load of speakers, amplifiers, and other theatre accessories to be hauled out before the bank takes possession. Unless Katie does some major fund raising, my guess would be that it will cost at least a couple hundred thousand for taxpayers to demolish the place. The City's agenda for yesterday's meeting included discussion of vacant/abandon building policies, but I didn't see where the newspaper reported what the outcome of that discussion was. Didn't our Mayor contact Tim about saving one of the centerpieces of their Downtown and Comprehensive Plans? It doesn't seem like he was able to get any positive results, does it? Just so I am clear here. After you scolded me for nosing into YOUR personal matters, you want me to continue to make a$$umptions about SOMEONE ELSE'S personal matters?
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Post by helencrump on May 13, 2015 10:08:56 GMT -6
Well, I have to say, what I witnessed yesterday caught me by surprise. I was driving right on Main St. about 4 in the afternoon and there was a conflict at the SW corner of Main & Sterling.. There were about 6 young people out on the edge of the sidewalk and spilled over into the street and there seemed to be a disagreement and nearly a fight. One kid rode off on his bike looking pretty afraid and another was turning around looking like some mad dog ready to fight in the middle of the street when the light turned green. What caught you by surprise? With the little bit of info, I'm not sure if you're trying to convey that you were afraid? Or surprised that a group of youth were having a disagreement? Did you hear or see anything that pointed to the bike rider being in danger? Other than the 'mad dog ready to fight' look? You probably couldn't tell from that short interaction, if it was the fearful looking person that had possibly been doing wrong, and the mad dog coming to intervene, or what. There was just an incident that happened in another state, where some people came upon a guy with a gun drawn, chasing another. Luckily, they weren't armed, because the guy with the gun wasn't the assailant. It was the guy running that had assaulted someone. Tricky circumstances, unless you see everything. Then there was the lady that left her kids watching a movie in a target store, and returned to them saying a man was taking their pic. She ran after him, took a pic of him, with a caption calling him a creepy guy, probably a perv. It went viral, and in reality, he was standing in front of the Darth Vadar display next to the movie viewing area. It was set up to take your pic with. He was taking his selfie, to text to his OWN kids. Again, tricky how things might look one way, only knowing part of the info. Just saying. Mad dog looking guy just might read this site, and have caught frightened looking guy getting ready to pee in an alley, and chased him off
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Post by chevypower on May 13, 2015 21:58:54 GMT -6
Things are not what they appear a lot of times, so true.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on May 14, 2015 8:51:44 GMT -6
Gee dog, after using your a$$umptions about my personal matters to try so hard to convince me to walk away from my investments and obligations, using Tim as an example of how great it can be, aren't you going to explain how it is that you think he will be so much better off? Didn't Katie offer to pay his entire mortgage even though he is upside down in it? Maybe he didn't think he was upside down, but didn't she also offer him $10K above appraised value? How is it that you think that he will be so much better off with a foreclosure, bankruptcy, and looking like even more of a sh!tbag to the people in his home town? With the down pours that we've had here over the last week, how much water do you think has poured through the open roof of the projection room to run down through the mezzanine level restrooms and on to the lobby? Of course it would run down hill to the deep end of his indoor swimming pool where there are electrical main chases under the floor. How many tens of thousands of damage do you think that it will add to the cost of any possible re-opening? I heard that before having his Floor to Ceiling legal consultants/eviction team board the place up, he had a truck here to get some of his prized possessions out. If it hasn't happened already, I would expect another truck load of speakers, amplifiers, and other theatre accessories to be hauled out before the bank takes possession. Unless Katie does some major fund raising, my guess would be that it will cost at least a couple hundred thousand for taxpayers to demolish the place. The City's agenda for yesterday's meeting included discussion of vacant/abandon building policies, but I didn't see where the newspaper reported what the outcome of that discussion was. Didn't our Mayor contact Tim about saving one of the centerpieces of their Downtown and Comprehensive Plans? It doesn't seem like he was able to get any positive results, does it? Just so I am clear here. After you scolded me for nosing into YOUR personal matters, you want me to continue to make a$$umptions about SOMEONE ELSE'S personal matters? Didn't you already nose into someone else's personal matters, making assumptions about it being a good thing for Tim to walk away from his obligations? I am simply asking you to explain the point that you were trying to make. By evicting the person making the payments and offering to pay of his mortgage or give him $10K above appraised value and then boarding up the place, not maintaining it or repairing roof damage to allow the elements to destroy the place, allowing it to go into foreclosure, likely having to pay for a bankruptcy damaging his credit for years, and looking like even more of a sh!tbag to his hometown where friends and relatives had supported him, how is that supposed to be such a great thing for him?
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on May 14, 2015 8:52:30 GMT -6
Well HC, you were'nt there. You may have been surprised too, you may not. I hope what I witnessed is not a common occurrence in our town because it certainly was about to turn ugly fast. The one guy was clearly aggravated and itching to fight and in the middle of the crosswalk oblivious to the light turning green. It seems like we are transitioning some again with more new faces lately. Wow maskedman, all that from just driving down Main Street! Can you just imagine how many times you might see it actually turn ugly, if you spent even more time downtown? I did refrain from posting much more of my video collection, and I certainly am happy that they are at least talking about solutions to this problem, after over seven years of my asking. I do think that some good solutions could make Anything Possible in Streator!
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Post by dog on May 14, 2015 9:33:22 GMT -6
Just so I am clear here. After you scolded me for nosing into YOUR personal matters, you want me to continue to make a$$umptions about SOMEONE ELSE'S personal matters? Didn't you already nose into someone else's personal matters, making assumptions about it being a good thing for Tim to walk away from his obligations? I am simply asking you to explain the point that you were trying to make. By evicting the person making the payments and offering to pay of his mortgage or give him $10K above appraised value and then boarding up the place, not maintaining it or repairing roof damage to allow the elements to destroy the place, allowing it to go into foreclosure, likely having to pay for a bankruptcy damaging his credit for years, and looking like even more of a sh!tbag to his hometown where friends and relatives had supported him, how is that supposed to be such a great thing for him? Yes, I did delve into his personal matters, before I was scolded by you. I just wanted to make sure it was ok with you if I continued to comment on other peoples business, before saying any more. If Tim was offered either of the options listed above, he is a dumb-fvck for not taking them. Without knowing Katie's equity in it and the continued dying of the small independent theaters, I would say she is also a dumb-fvck for making such an offer. Since he didn't take Katie's offer, I think walking away from it is the next best option. From what I have read here and in the paper, it seems he has no equity in it. Your observations and opinions on the roof and the building needing more repairs than he owes the bank, accompanied by the decline of the movie theater business in general, doesn't relate to a profitable business. I am not a small business consulting firm, I am only giving an opinion based on the very limited , and 2nd hand information that I get here and in the paper. I am not endorsing or defending his business practices, just stating what I think it is best for him financially. Personally I would like to see him pay off his debt to the bank, payback the money he took in donations, and either repair his building or demolish it at his expense. You need to look at things from other peoples eyes. Bankruptcy isn't a big badge of shame anymore. I have a customer who filed for bankruptcy not too long ago. They actually have 2 better cars and a better house than they did before the bankruptcy. I see them out and they still seem to have friends. Just because you or I might think it is shameful to file bankruptcy or get a divorce, or whatever else used to bring shame, doesn't mean that these things aren't considered mainstream in todays world.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on May 15, 2015 9:58:50 GMT -6
Didn't you already nose into someone else's personal matters, making assumptions about it being a good thing for Tim to walk away from his obligations? I am simply asking you to explain the point that you were trying to make. By evicting the person making the payments and offering to pay of his mortgage or give him $10K above appraised value and then boarding up the place, not maintaining it or repairing roof damage to allow the elements to destroy the place, allowing it to go into foreclosure, likely having to pay for a bankruptcy damaging his credit for years, and looking like even more of a sh!tbag to his hometown where friends and relatives had supported him, how is that supposed to be such a great thing for him? Yes, I did delve into his personal matters, before I was scolded by you. I just wanted to make sure it was ok with you if I continued to comment on other peoples business, before saying any more. If Tim was offered either of the options listed above, he is a dumb-fvck for not taking them. Without knowing Katie's equity in it and the continued dying of the small independent theaters, I would say she is also a dumb-fvck for making such an offer. Since he didn't take Katie's offer, I think walking away from it is the next best option. From what I have read here and in the paper, it seems he has no equity in it. Your observations and opinions on the roof and the building needing more repairs than he owes the bank, accompanied by the decline of the movie theater business in general, doesn't relate to a profitable business. I am not a small business consulting firm, I am only giving an opinion based on the very limited , and 2nd hand information that I get here and in the paper. I am not endorsing or defending his business practices, just stating what I think it is best for him financially. Personally I would like to see him pay off his debt to the bank, payback the money he took in donations, and either repair his building or demolish it at his expense. You need to look at things from other peoples eyes. Bankruptcy isn't a big badge of shame anymore. I have a customer who filed for bankruptcy not too long ago. They actually have 2 better cars and a better house than they did before the bankruptcy. I see them out and they still seem to have friends. Just because you or I might think it is shameful to file bankruptcy or get a divorce, or whatever else used to bring shame, doesn't mean that these things aren't considered mainstream in todays world. Well dog, don't hold back on what you think of people. What do you think of Bob Endres for giving $100K to try to save one of the declining theatre businesses in a declining population community? Some people say that I am too negative and see things as being more positive, but you really do seem to be much more pessimistic than I am. Perhaps you should write a letter to the giant media conglomerates about the sad state of the motion picture industry, so they can stop wasting money on electricity and just turn out the lights in Hollywood. I will agree that government regulators being asleep at the wheel, allowed a greedy mortgage industry to destroy our economy to the point that taxpayers had to bail out the "too big to fail" corporations (that aren't made to divest) while still causing millions of Americans to fail, making bankruptcy much more commonplace. However I still don't see it as a very good recommendation that people who you do not know the personal finances of should just walk away from their investments and obligations. You know what? If my family was interested in being in Streator, since it wouldn't be buying it from Tim, I would probably be putting in an offer to the bank for the Majestic for when they gain possession. With our City seeming to start trying to make bar owners be more responsible, adding video surveillance, developing a more friendly business attitude, etc., I wouldn't be afraid of the hard work needed to open it and build the business again. I've even had someone, knowing that I would do the work, offer some backing if I were interested in doing something there. It wouldn't be too much different than the three months of hard work that my family did to bring it to first run condition in 2007. I've taken asbestos abatement classes, would put on a suit and respirator to crawl through the chase under the auditorium and other areas to make it much safer to breathe in the building. I would rent the 42 sections of scaffold to repair the roof joists spanning across the back stage fly deck 45' off the floor. In 2007 we had to deal with an auditorium that had been under feet of water and all kinds of water damaged plaster throughout the lobby as well. I can still see much potential there despite your gloom and doom beliefs about the industry. I agree with Mr. Endres that the Majestic should have been a tourist destination. It is too bad that it took so long for things to even start to change here. I am very optimistic about the future of our downtown though and rather than telling others that they should just walk away from any possible investments in our community, I would tell them that I think with more of the right changes here, Anything's Possible! You don't have to worry about calling me a df too for having such a positive attitude about investing in a declining industry in our declining population community. I already figured out what you thought of me when you tried to make me think that a bank was spending a lot of money removing a valuable sign devaluing their building for the scrap, when you questioned my education to try to say that I didn't understand some percentage loss comparisons, and when you tried making me think that your strong suggestions that I walk away from my investments here was to "help" me.
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Post by dog on May 15, 2015 10:55:35 GMT -6
Yes, I did delve into his personal matters, before I was scolded by you. I just wanted to make sure it was ok with you if I continued to comment on other peoples business, before saying any more. If Tim was offered either of the options listed above, he is a dumb-fvck for not taking them. Without knowing Katie's equity in it and the continued dying of the small independent theaters, I would say she is also a dumb-fvck for making such an offer. Since he didn't take Katie's offer, I think walking away from it is the next best option. From what I have read here and in the paper, it seems he has no equity in it. Your observations and opinions on the roof and the building needing more repairs than he owes the bank, accompanied by the decline of the movie theater business in general, doesn't relate to a profitable business. I am not a small business consulting firm, I am only giving an opinion based on the very limited , and 2nd hand information that I get here and in the paper. I am not endorsing or defending his business practices, just stating what I think it is best for him financially. Personally I would like to see him pay off his debt to the bank, payback the money he took in donations, and either repair his building or demolish it at his expense. You need to look at things from other peoples eyes. Bankruptcy isn't a big badge of shame anymore. I have a customer who filed for bankruptcy not too long ago. They actually have 2 better cars and a better house than they did before the bankruptcy. I see them out and they still seem to have friends. Just because you or I might think it is shameful to file bankruptcy or get a divorce, or whatever else used to bring shame, doesn't mean that these things aren't considered mainstream in todays world. Well dog, don't hold back on what you think of people. What do you think of Bob Endres for giving $100K to try to save one of the declining theatre businesses in a declining population community? Some people say that I am too negative and see things as being more positive, but you really do seem to be much more pessimistic than I am. Perhaps you should write a letter to the giant media conglomerates about the sad state of the motion picture industry, so they can stop wasting money on electricity and just turn out the lights in Hollywood. I will agree that government regulators being asleep at the wheel, allowed a greedy mortgage industry to destroy our economy to the point that taxpayers had to bail out the "too big to fail" corporations (that aren't made to divest) while still causing millions of Americans to fail, making bankruptcy much more commonplace. However I still don't see it as a very good recommendation that people who you do not know the personal finances of should just walk away from their investments and obligations. You know what? If my family was interested in being in Streator, since it wouldn't be buying it from Tim, I would probably be putting in an offer to the bank for the Majestic for when they gain possession. With our City seeming to start trying to make bar owners be more responsible, adding video surveillance, developing a more friendly business attitude, etc., I wouldn't be afraid of the hard work needed to open it and build the business again. I've even had someone, knowing that I would do the work, offer some backing if I were interested in doing something there. It wouldn't be too much different than the three months of hard work that my family did to bring it to first run condition in 2007. I've taken asbestos abatement classes, would put on a suit and respirator to crawl through the chase under the auditorium and other areas to make it much safer to breathe in the building. I would rent the 42 sections of scaffold to repair the roof joists spanning across the back stage fly deck 45' off the floor. In 2007 we had to deal with an auditorium that had been under feet of water and all kinds of water damaged plaster throughout the lobby as well. I can still see much potential there despite your gloom and doom beliefs about the industry. I agree with Mr. Endres that the Majestic should have been a tourist destination. It is too bad that it took so long for things to even start to change here. I am very optimistic about the future of our downtown though and rather than telling others that they should just walk away from any possible investments in our community, I would tell them that I think with more of the right changes here, Anything's Possible! You don't have to worry about calling me a df too for having such a positive attitude about investing in a declining industry in our declining population community. I already figured out what you thought of me when you tried to make me think that a bank was spending a lot of money removing a valuable sign devaluing their building for the scrap, when you questioned my education to try to say that I didn't understand some percentage loss comparisons, and when you tried making me think that your strong suggestions that I walk away from my investments here was to "help" me. I think Mr Endres is a very generous man who has strong feelings of Streator and the Majestic. Unfortunately his efforts were for naught. You need to read my post again. I didn't say the movie industry is on the decline, I said the movie theater business is on the decline. It isn't my belief that it is happening, it is a fact. There are many sources out there that say that last years attendance was at a 19 year low and only will continue to get worse. Lets get the facts straight here. I am not telling everyone to walk away from possible investments in our community. I am suggesting that people make wise investments. I don't consider investing in the Majestic as a wise investment, unless you have a love for theater and deep pockets. Hypothetically, if your family wanted to live here, and you did put an offer in, would it be for the appraised value or would you try to low ball them? I dont expect anybody to blindly take advice received on an anonymous message board, but to at least consider pursuing it further with someone who has more knowledge of the particular situation.
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Post by dumdave on May 15, 2015 11:25:34 GMT -6
Well, I have to say, what I witnessed yesterday caught me by surprise. I was driving right on Main St. about 4 in the afternoon and there was a conflict at the SW corner of Main & Sterling.. There were about 6 young people out on the edge of the sidewalk and spilled over into the street and there seemed to be a disagreement and nearly a fight. One kid rode off on his bike looking pretty afraid and another was turning around looking like some mad dog ready to fight in the middle of the street when the light turned green. Face it this is a rough town. But it got real rough on 1958 when downtown had a riot. archives.chicagotribune.com/1958/10/18/#page/12/article/streator-high-students-riot-wreck-stores
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