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Post by rocket on Aug 7, 2014 6:59:25 GMT -6
I think the people in this town better group together and protest the city for rehiring this guy without doing another background check on him. If what is all said to be true,this would show up on the back ground check.
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Post by father of two on Aug 7, 2014 7:11:20 GMT -6
Lavasa built the city, not Wrighton. There is no due process, their privately owned city, their rules. How many people would sign a document to invest money without know the terms, conditions and rules? I wouldn't. Anyone that would isn't too bright, in my opinion.
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Post by dog on Aug 7, 2014 7:26:06 GMT -6
If I read everything correctly, lavasa can do anything it pleases and there is nothing anyone can do. I notice also that this is your blog so it is your opinion being expressed. Why would anyone want to live there? Did you read the contract before signing? If not, why would you sign anything without knowing what you're investing in? Doesn't sound very smart. Complete authority to the owner of the community and the citizens/subjects have to do what they are told. Sounds like life hundreds of years ago when kings and queens ruled. The blog is an amalgamation of many individual's experience, as one could make out. SPA rules of is/was never shared publicly and never before signing an agreement and making an investment, hence people are stuck. Many have asked for specific SPA rules and haven't heard anyone getting the full copy even now. You are right about medieval period and Scot being the City Manager explains his orientation. If we don't act now and take it up with the Council, it will be too late. With such a baggage and a fat salary he is having the best time So I have to ask, how are you and Mr. Wrighton connected? Sometimes when I read your posts with your broken English, I think you are an Indian and are from over there. In this post you state: " If we don't act now and take it up with the Council, it will be too late" which suggests you are a Streator resident. I don't care to know your name, but a little more info might lend you some more credibility, along with some more factual information, and not just links and quotes from blog posts. Lavasa and Streator are worlds apart both in how they are run and geographically. If you can produce facts where he didn't do the job he was hired to do, and he, himself a convicted of breaking any laws, I would be more than happy to see them. I am sorry but blog posts aren't going to cut it for me.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Aug 7, 2014 8:09:28 GMT -6
Lavasa built the city, not Wrighton. There is no due process, their privately owned city, their rules. How many people would sign a document to invest money without know the terms, conditions and rules? I wouldn't. Anyone that would isn't too bright, in my opinion. Quotes from The Times: Council members, including former council member Bruce Hart and new council member Brian Crouch, were impressed with his work in Lavisa, India, where he organized the building of a city from the ground up. They were unanimously in favor of his hire.
"That city is basically a model for other new cities in Asia," said Councilwoman Tara Bedei. "If you based it on experience, he was out of our league, but he showed a real passion to come to Streator."
Wrighton acknowledged returning to a smaller city from an international project building a community from scratch will be a nontraditional move, but he said he had his own personal reasons for leaving India. These reasons he didn't want to comment on further Thursday.The Times and our council members seem to indicate that his experience "building a community from scratch" is part of what got him the job. Did they just make this stuff up, or did Mr. Wrighton use his experience at Lavasa to get the job here? I'm not saying that he was out there with a shovel and hammer, but didn't he have a huge part in building the City and forming it's "governance"? Wasn't he their professional for these matters? We don't have all the details, but the comments do indicate that the investors were not given the full scope of their loss of rights when their dealings with Lavasa were started, but partly upon the completion of the deal. Some saying that even then they can not get the full set of the rules. Are his way of doing things and his negative baggage really good for Streator?
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Post by roman on Aug 7, 2014 8:46:03 GMT -6
It would appear that Kyle has an Indian buddy that has an axe to grind. I have no idea why Kyle is out to get Mr. Wrighton already. I guess he is into the smear campaign. Get them early and get them often. To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Aug 7, 2014 8:52:32 GMT -6
The blog is an amalgamation of many individual's experience, as one could make out. SPA rules of is/was never shared publicly and never before signing an agreement and making an investment, hence people are stuck. Many have asked for specific SPA rules and haven't heard anyone getting the full copy even now. You are right about medieval period and Scot being the City Manager explains his orientation. If we don't act now and take it up with the Council, it will be too late. With such a baggage and a fat salary he is having the best time So I have to ask, how are you and Mr. Wrighton connected? Sometimes when I read your posts with your broken English, I think you are an Indian and are from over there. In this post you state: " If we don't act now and take it up with the Council, it will be too late" which suggests you are a Streator resident. I don't care to know your name, but a little more info might lend you some more credibility, along with some more factual information, and not just links and quotes from blog posts. Lavasa and Streator are worlds apart both in how they are run and geographically. If you can produce facts where he didn't do the job he was hired to do, and he, himself a convicted of breaking any laws, I would be more than happy to see them. I am sorry but blog posts aren't going to cut it for me. Careful lavinv, requests for personal information are likely motivated to launch attacks. Wait until he asks about your education to compare to his to try to make it out as if you are not educated enough to understand what he says, when in reality it is just cesspool fill.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Aug 7, 2014 8:53:01 GMT -6
It would appear that Kyle has an Indian buddy that has an axe to grind. I have no idea why Kyle is out to get Mr. Wrighton already. I guess he is into the smear campaign. Get them early and get them often. I wouldn't have an ax to grind if the City didn't do things like allowing the bar violence to hurt other businesses, giving out requirements that are not within our laws, trampling on people's civil rights. I don't even know Mr. Wrighton, however I do not feel that his experience in civil rights and shutting down business will be good for our community. I would like answers from our city leaders, but they seem to feel that they don't owe their subjects any answers, so all I can do is talk about what I think is wrong with the things that they do.
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Post by dog on Aug 7, 2014 9:13:11 GMT -6
So I have to ask, how are you and Mr. Wrighton connected? Sometimes when I read your posts with your broken English, I think you are an Indian and are from over there. In this post you state: " If we don't act now and take it up with the Council, it will be too late" which suggests you are a Streator resident. I don't care to know your name, but a little more info might lend you some more credibility, along with some more factual information, and not just links and quotes from blog posts. Lavasa and Streator are worlds apart both in how they are run and geographically. If you can produce facts where he didn't do the job he was hired to do, and he, himself a convicted of breaking any laws, I would be more than happy to see them. I am sorry but blog posts aren't going to cut it for me. Careful lavinv, requests for personal information are likely motivated to launch attacks. Wait until he asks about your education to compare to his to try to make it out as if you are not educated enough to understand what he says, when in reality it is just cesspool fill.
Well considering there was a court order to restrain postings under similar circumstances, I think it is relevant that he answers some of these questions. You stated if you said anything about the city council that wasn't true, they had means to legally shut you up. If we use that thinking, it looks like Lavasa leaders used that tactic and went to court. The court agreed they had a case and temporarily restrained him from saying anymore. And you choose to believe an anonymous poster who is posting in a very similar manner to the poster who was restrained from posting by an Indian Court. So, yes, considering these facts, I ask for a little more information to consider his opinions. Here is the article if you need it:
"Lavasa had prayed for a direction to restrain Reji Thomas from circulating defamatory messages against the company and its project.
In the suit, Lavasa contended that Thomas is a director of Jenjon Retail & Services Pvt Ltd, which was running a cafe in the premises owned by Lavasa Corporation, near Pune.
The contract with Thomas came to an end 'upon efflux of time'. This apparently enraged Thomas and he allegedly started a negative online campaign against Lavasa, the suit claimed.
Thomas sent emails to several people abusing Lavasa and posting defamatory articles on social media platforms, it alleged. However, Thomas has denied the allegations.
Lavasa in its plaint alleged that Thomas was apparently using various fictional Twitter handles to malign its name, one of them being LavasaInvestor. Lavasa urged that such campaign on the internet leads to loss of reputation not only in the country, but also abroad.
The defendants contended that they had not published any defamatory statements against the company and denied sending e-mails' against Lavasa. Posting on website does not amount to publication of defamatory statement, they argued.
However, the court noted that sending e-mails to others by attributing defamatory matter to any entity or person and posting such matter on website which is read by world at large amounts to publication of such statement.
"I am of the view that the plaintiff is entitled to ad interim injunction as prayed for," the judge noted.
The court also held that a case for trial was made out by Lavasa, adding that the company had established a prima facie case in its favour. "
As an edit to my post, Kyle, to coin your phrase, I am trying to see if there is any "cesspool fill" in his posts. Arent you in favor of at least knowing if he is filling the "cesspool" or not?
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Aug 7, 2014 10:16:40 GMT -6
According to you he is going to come in and illegally close down business. Unless you are lowering yourself to helen's standards, you should be able to point out where I said that.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Aug 7, 2014 10:17:42 GMT -6
Careful lavinv, requests for personal information are likely motivated to launch attacks. Wait until he asks about your education to compare to his to try to make it out as if you are not educated enough to understand what he says, when in reality it is just cesspool fill.
Well considering there was a court order to restrain postings under similar circumstances, I think it is relevant that he answers some of these questions. You stated if you said anything about the city council that wasn't true, they had means to legally shut you up. If we use that thinking, it looks like Lavasa leaders used that tactic and went to court. The court agreed they had a case and temporarily restrained him from saying anymore. And you choose to believe an anonymous poster who is posting in a very similar manner to the poster who was restrained from posting by an Indian Court. So, yes, considering these facts, I ask for a little more information to consider his opinions. Here is the article if you need it:
"Lavasa had prayed for a direction to restrain Reji Thomas from circulating defamatory messages against the company and its project.
In the suit, Lavasa contended that Thomas is a director of Jenjon Retail & Services Pvt Ltd, which was running a cafe in the premises owned by Lavasa Corporation, near Pune.
The contract with Thomas came to an end 'upon efflux of time'. This apparently enraged Thomas and he allegedly started a negative online campaign against Lavasa, the suit claimed.
Thomas sent emails to several people abusing Lavasa and posting defamatory articles on social media platforms, it alleged. However, Thomas has denied the allegations.
Lavasa in its plaint alleged that Thomas was apparently using various fictional Twitter handles to malign its name, one of them being LavasaInvestor. Lavasa urged that such campaign on the internet leads to loss of reputation not only in the country, but also abroad.
The defendants contended that they had not published any defamatory statements against the company and denied sending e-mails' against Lavasa. Posting on website does not amount to publication of defamatory statement, they argued.
However, the court noted that sending e-mails to others by attributing defamatory matter to any entity or person and posting such matter on website which is read by world at large amounts to publication of such statement.
"I am of the view that the plaintiff is entitled to ad interim injunction as prayed for," the judge noted.
The court also held that a case for trial was made out by Lavasa, adding that the company had established a prima facie case in its favour. "
As an edit to my post, Kyle, to coin your phrase, I am trying to see if there is any "cesspool fill" in his posts. Arent you in favor of at least knowing if he is filling the "cesspool" or not?
Yes dog, our City leaders can shut me up with their relatively new public forum ordinance. How did Streator survive so long without it? They use the three minute rule often and did not stop me when I talked about them not following our laws and considering corruption, even though the ordinance allowed them to if I said anything that was untrue. It seems to me that they know that they haven't followed our laws, otherwise why would they allow me to say such things when they had the tools to stop me that they use often? I've been interrupted at that public forum so that they can discuss the subjects that they want to. They've also used the threat of legal action against me to attempt to shut me up, but failed to inform me of any court date. Then of course they can just deny the use of City Park when they don't approve of the subject matter to be discussed. Yes, I would like to find out what is cesspool fill or not. That is why I did some online research and feel that I got a pretty good picture of what really happened. I've asked questions on here and requested that our City leaders fill us in with some of their inside information, but they typically take the attitude that they don't owe the public any answers. If they did feel that the owe us some answers, the Mayor might give his justification for the industrial zoning requirement for the Aquaponics business that first greek and now northsider like to talk about so much. In the void of answers, the people of Streator are free to make up their own minds as to what the real story is.
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Post by lavinv on Aug 7, 2014 10:31:50 GMT -6
Rather than wasting time getting into personal attacks, shouldn't we just get together and check the veracity of Scot's credentials and how his presence will affect everyone in Streator.
Present the points to the Council and let's see how they respond, after all they are collectively responsible for our well-being and should be doing everything in our interest.
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Post by Anonymous on Aug 7, 2014 10:38:24 GMT -6
This is like watching an episode of The Twilight Zone.
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Post by father of two on Aug 7, 2014 10:41:33 GMT -6
Lavinv, how does his hiring here affect your well being. You should be glad he's gone.
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Post by father of two on Aug 7, 2014 10:42:32 GMT -6
Or Twins Anon.
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Post by Anonymous on Aug 7, 2014 10:44:12 GMT -6
Rather than wasting time getting into personal attacks, shouldn't we just get together and check the veracity of Scot's credentials and how his presence will affect everyone in Streator. Present the points to the Council and let's see how they respond, after all they are collectively responsible for our well-being and should be doing everything in our interest. So, you are a Streator resident. Deja vu all over again.
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