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Post by Family Man on Oct 17, 2013 9:41:10 GMT -6
Good for you that you do not drink. While you are there visiting your good buddy, supporting his business that over-serves to so many customers, could you please try to get them to not block the fire hydrant, you included? I see your attacks against me for talking about the problems and questioning my citizenship, while you support someone that continues to over-serve and let customers do the things they do despite our laws, as being very despicable. These problems are really hurting our community. You are actually calling FOT despicable? Well, I knew you would start in again. So much for being nice on here, huh? And of course, flooding the forum with your bullcrap.
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Post by ironeagle on Oct 17, 2013 15:16:55 GMT -6
FM FOT I have noticed something about YOU BOTH and a few OTHERS anytime ANYONE SAYS WE NEED TO IMPROVE Streator your always the FIRST TO DEFEND THE STATUS QUO in the Town. Could it be that well FOT your a Member of the Conner Family we all know who you are in Real Life and therefore you LIKE THE STATUS QUO in this town. FM you Strike me as a Member of the Harcar Family and therefore also THINK the Same Old is Fine IN STREATOR.
Why do people Leave and Never Come back to Streator anymore simple they are SICK OF THE BULLCRAP that your FAMILES and your FRIENDS ram down our Throats. Why do people abandon Houses called there IS NO JOBS IN THE AREA THAT CAN SUPPORT A FAMILY and WE HAVE TO JUST TO SURVIVE. Never mind the fact that the People that do DESTROY their Credit for Years so they can just Freaking GIVE THEIR FAMILIES A CHANCE AT A BETTER LIFE FREE OF DRUGS AND SCHOOLS THAT ARE AMONG THE WORST IN THE NATION. Showing how much your Good Old Boys Network Hate Kyle for Trying to Bring Jobs that are NOT BAR RELATED to this town SHOWS HOW SCREWED UP THE LEADERSHIP IS IN STREATOR. I showed a couple of Kyle's youtubes to the Police Officer that Lives in my Apartment Complex and his Reaction was HOLY CRAP THEY DID NOT EVEN ARREST THEM FOR PUBLIC INTOXICATION LET ALONE ASSUALT AND BATTERY. He wrote down the URL and goes I am going to let the FBI take a look and see if they want to take a LONG LOOK AT STREATOR AND SEE IF THE POLICE ARE GETTING ANY FAVORS so tell your Buddies on the Force to either SHIP UP or get ready for the FEDS.
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Post by rukidding (towns local troll) on Oct 17, 2013 15:39:32 GMT -6
FM FOT I have noticed something about YOU BOTH and a few OTHERS anytime ANYONE SAYS WE NEED TO IMPROVE Streator your always the FIRST TO DEFEND THE STATUS QUO in the Town. Could it be that well FOT your a Member of the Conner Family we all know who you are in Real Life and therefore you LIKE THE STATUS QUO in this town. FM you Strike me as a Member of the Harcar Family and therefore also THINK the Same Old is Fine IN STREATOR. Why do people Leave and Never Come back to Streator anymore simple they are SICK OF THE BULLCRAP that your FAMILES and your FRIENDS ram down our Throats. Why do people abandon Houses called there IS NO JOBS IN THE AREA THAT CAN SUPPORT A FAMILY and WE HAVE TO JUST TO SURVIVE. Never mind the fact that the People that do DESTROY their Credit for Years so they can just Freaking GIVE THEIR FAMILIES A CHANCE AT A BETTER LIFE FREE OF DRUGS AND SCHOOLS THAT ARE AMONG THE WORST IN THE NATION. Showing how much your Good Old Boys Network Hate Kyle for Trying to Bring Jobs that are NOT BAR RELATED to this town SHOWS HOW SCREWED UP THE LEADERSHIP IS IN STREATOR. I showed a couple of Kyle's youtubes to the Police Officer that Lives in my Apartment Complex and his Reaction was HOLY CRAP THEY DID NOT EVEN ARREST THEM FOR PUBLIC INTOXICATION LET ALONE ASSUALT AND BATTERY. He wrote down the URL and goes I am going to let the FBI take a look and see if they want to take a LONG LOOK AT STREATOR AND SEE IF THE POLICE ARE GETTING ANY FAVORS so tell your Buddies on the Force to either SHIP UP or get ready for the FEDS. That is some MIGHTY BIG Talking You are doing. Let's HOPE You can DELIVER.
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Post by father of two on Oct 17, 2013 16:56:55 GMT -6
Show me where I have defended the same old stuff. When I ran for city office I criticized the leadership in city hall and the police dept and said there needed to be a new chief. I said that there needed to be more done by the council and that there needed to be more law enforcement in this town. I don't think that all the things that happen by kyles residence are acceptable. The city liquor commission should call in bar owners and tell them that if these type of problems persist they will be closed down. My dad did it when he was mayor. The police shouldn't be baby fitters. They should make arrests when called. Kyle had a video where there was a fight in the alley behind Ace and the officer drew his gun. No arrests. There is no way an officer should draw his gun and then not arrest anyone. There IS a lack of leadership in city hall still. There should be changes made. I just don't agree with kyles tactics all the time. I agree with what he wants for our town, not his methods.
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Post by Family Man on Oct 17, 2013 17:24:28 GMT -6
FM FOT I have noticed something about YOU BOTH and a few OTHERS anytime ANYONE SAYS WE NEED TO IMPROVE Streator your always the FIRST TO DEFEND THE STATUS QUO in the Town. Could it be that well FOT your a Member of the Conner Family we all know who you are in Real Life and therefore you LIKE THE STATUS QUO in this town. FM you Strike me as a Member of the Harcar Family and therefore also THINK the Same Old is Fine IN STREATOR. Why do people Leave and Never Come back to Streator anymore simple they are SICK OF THE BULLCRAP that your FAMILES and your FRIENDS ram down our Throats. Why do people abandon Houses called there IS NO JOBS IN THE AREA THAT CAN SUPPORT A FAMILY and WE HAVE TO JUST TO SURVIVE. Never mind the fact that the People that do DESTROY their Credit for Years so they can just Freaking GIVE THEIR FAMILIES A CHANCE AT A BETTER LIFE FREE OF DRUGS AND SCHOOLS THAT ARE AMONG THE WORST IN THE NATION. Showing how much your Good Old Boys Network Hate Kyle for Trying to Bring Jobs that are NOT BAR RELATED to this town SHOWS HOW SCREWED UP THE LEADERSHIP IS IN STREATOR. I showed a couple of Kyle's youtubes to the Police Officer that Lives in my Apartment Complex and his Reaction was HOLY CRAP THEY DID NOT EVEN ARREST THEM FOR PUBLIC INTOXICATION LET ALONE ASSUALT AND BATTERY. He wrote down the URL and goes I am going to let the FBI take a look and see if they want to take a LONG LOOK AT STREATOR AND SEE IF THE POLICE ARE GETTING ANY FAVORS so tell your Buddies on the Force to either SHIP UP or get ready for the FEDS. Wow. Okay, IronEagle. Never had a problem with you, but let's go... I am not a Harcar nor am I connected to ANYONE in the "Good Old Boy Network" that you speak of. I happen to AGREE with Kyle but think his TACTICS are all WRONG! Don't you think taping people on the street and making fun of them on the internet is the wrong way to go about this? (Calling people gay!) Don't you think showing these people on the internet and letting everyone know who you are is not a really safe thing to do? If you honestly believe bar fights is the most important thing wrong with Streator, you have a problem. Anyone who disagrees with the way Kyle goes about his "crusade" is his enemy and it seems you have signed on for the Kyle fan club. That's cool, buddy. Just think about this....Anyone who claims to know what is better for our city but refuses to RUN FOR OFFICE really might NOT be the guy you want to back up. Ever hear of the saying "Man up or shut up"? And we'll all be waiting for the "feds" to investigate bar fights. Like the Troll said, I hope you can deliver.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Oct 17, 2013 17:46:31 GMT -6
It is pretty interesting that people that heavily attack me consistently, claim to agree with me, but blame my tactics.
I must have missed the council meetings where they spoke at the public forum to make it known that they think these things are wrong.
I really could care less who agrees with my tactics.
They are a result of years and years of City leaders ignoring the problems and rubber stamping liquor licenses, and people on here doing nothing but attack.
I don't have to run for any office to be able to speak my mind and point out the problems.
If you don't like hearing what I have to say or how I say it then don't read it.
I doubt that bar owners will change on their own, and I will not stop talking about these problems, so plan on keep hearing it until our city takes appropriate action.
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Post by Family Man on Oct 17, 2013 17:58:39 GMT -6
It is pretty interesting that people that heavily attack me consistently, claim to agree with me, but blame my tactics. I must have missed the council meetings where they spoke at the public forum to make it known that they think these things are wrong. I really could care less who agrees with my tactics. They are a result of years and years of City leaders ignoring the problems and rubber stamping liquor licenses, and people on here doing nothing but attack. I don't have to run for any office to be able to speak my mind and point out the problems. If you don't like hearing what I have to say or how I say it then don't read it. I doubt that bar owners will change on their own, and I will not stop talking about these problems, so plan on keep hearing it until our city takes appropriate action. You make sure your voice is heard. Over and over and over and over again. We can't help but read about it because that is all you post about time and time again. And on an un-moderated forum, no less. That's fine, Kyle, you can say what you want. But so can I. It goes two f**king ways, pal. Deal with it. Keep complaining about your "haters" and people "attacking" you, when in reality they disagree with how you are dealing with it. You're trying to be a martyr but you're coming off as a classless jerk. Oh and quit saying all these people agree with you as they are just trying to be nice OR they don't have a set of balls to tell you what they really think of you.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Oct 17, 2013 18:16:07 GMT -6
You hear it over and over again because the same things keep happening over and over again.
If some bar owners would start following the laws and stop serving people to the point that they can not control themselves, you wouldn't have to hear it.
People pulling their pants down, assaulting each other, and passing out outside the bar is killing our community.
In case you missed it last time, I could care less if you agree with the way I deal with it or how you think I am coming off.
I like how you feel so strongly that you are able to make a point without using profanities and name calling.
Did you have a point?
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Oct 17, 2013 18:26:44 GMT -6
I happen to AGREE with Kyle Oh and quit saying all these people agree with you as they are just trying to be nice OR they don't have a set of balls to tell you what they really think of you. I'm pretty sure that you wouldn't be nice to me, so...
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Post by father of two on Oct 17, 2013 18:33:48 GMT -6
I asked you before kyle if you could name 3 places anywhere that has never overserved someone. I am still waiting for your response to that. It happens unfortunately. It is also to the police dept to check bars and other places to make sure that people aren't driving intoxicated or drunk in public. I was in Ottawa today and asked a couple bar owners there if the problems here happen over there. Their answer was yes. It happens a lot over there. They in the past have had numerous bars with drug arrests in them, 1 was across the street from the downtown court house. It doesn't make it acceptable, but shows it happens everywhere. I don't go to the council meetings to complain because I know it does no good. That's why I run. To make a difference and make the town a better place. Tell me when, in the last 2 city elections that I ever spoke in defense of this type of things. The only way a difference will be made is to have people who want to make that change get elected. It is why I ran before and will continue to run in the future.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Oct 17, 2013 18:53:02 GMT -6
I never claimed to know of places that have never over-served.
How could I ever possible know that?
I didn't respond because I think it is such a stupid request.
What bar owners admitted to you that they over-serve?
What bar owners told you that their customer got so drunk that they passed out in the alley and got mugged?
What bar owner told you that someone got so drunk in their place that they called police threatening to kill everyone?
I could go on with many more examples, but the point is, you are not going to convince me that Ottawa has anywhere near as many incidents or as severe as the ones that we have here.
Even if they did, it would not make a difference to me because it would be just as unacceptable.
I will not accept it.
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Post by dragonfly on Oct 17, 2013 19:37:29 GMT -6
What is the number of liquor licenses that Streator is allowed to have? I heard at one time it was 54....that seems high for a town with only 15,000 people.
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Post by Anonymous on Oct 18, 2013 6:13:11 GMT -6
It's not just Streator. Crime is everywhere. From the Pontiac Daily Leader - Cynthia Grau Staff Reporter Updated Jul. 3, 2013 @ 2:15 pm Pontiac, Ill. — Two elderly Pontiac men were attacked for their wallets recently and Pontiac Police are investigating the incidents. One mugging happened in the evening and the other in the morning. Both men were injured and taken to the hospital for treatment. According to police, the first attack occurred Sunday, June 30, at approximately 9:26 p.m. The victim, a 74-year-old male, was walking home in the 400 block of West Water Street from downtown Pontiac. He was struck in the head and had his wallet stolen by an unknown assailant. The victim drove himself to OSF Saint James-John W. Albrecht Medical Center, where a report was filed with Pontiac Police. The victim wasn't able to provide a description of the suspect. Police said the second attack happened Monday at 9:03 a.m. The victim, who is also 74, was standing in his front yard in the 700 block of West North Street when a male, who the victim didn't know and has not yet been identified, struck him in the head. The victim briefly struggled with the suspect before the suspect ran off with his wallet. The victim made his way to a neighbor's home, where police were summoned. He was then taken to Saint James and treated before being transferred to OSF Saint Francis Medical Center, Peoria, where his condition is unknown at this time. Police say the investigation into these attacks is continuing. Read more: www.pontiacdailyleader.com/article/20130703/NEWS/130709768/1005/NEWS#ixzz2i4hwxk9y
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2013 7:03:56 GMT -6
You're right Anonymous, it is everywhere. The problem I had with Streator though was that nothing was being done about it. Maybe it's the same in other towns too, I don't know. I saw first hand how things went in my neighborhood. Out of all the problems I had there, out of all the times the police were there, I saw not one single arrest including the time there were at LEAST 50 people fighting in the side yard next to me. There were about 6-8 City and County cars that responded. People still fighting and throwing punches when police arrived. They witnessed it. It wasn't like the fights were over by the time the police showed up. Not one single person arrested.
A different fight from the same house at another time.....when the police showed up, the woman hugged the officer and the officer shook hands with the male. Unbelievable. It was a well known drug house and the female was a well known prostitute.
When I moved to LaSalle 4 months ago, I was concerned about living next to a 12 unit apartment building. (my landlord owns both properties). I have not heard one thing from any unit in that building. My landlord has zero tolerance when it comes to disturbances, etc. They do inspections once every 2 months of all their units and she told me a couple of months ago that they saw marijuana paraphernalia laying on a coffee table. That tenant was immediately evicted. Gone in a heartbeat. They do only month to month leases....easier to get people out. They have built up a reputation as running only quiet, safe rentals and their apartments are rented quickly.
Streator is not a bad town. There are many, many wonderful people. there. I just wish they took a more proactive role when dealing with offenders. If the offenders keep getting arrested when they break the law, they will quickly move on to another town where they won't. That's why I think Streator is full of it. They are allowed to get away with it, so they stay and bring more of their friends and family with them. I was really hoping with a new Police Chief that things would start to change. Apparently that's not the case.
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Post by cityslicker on Oct 18, 2013 7:14:52 GMT -6
J., the chief and the rest of the department are spineless jellyfish. All they can do is ticket speeders and are afraid of the blacks and Mexicans in town. Castration must be a job requisite to be on this po-po force.
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