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Post by evaryman on Aug 29, 2013 12:29:36 GMT -6
This was a "Hot Topic" about 10 years ago, as I recall, in Lawrence, Kansas. That city passed an ordinance that allowed chickens. I don't recall ever being bothered by the chickens, as I remember the city attorney was one of the first town residents to have coops at his house. Also, in NCarolina egg laying ducks are allowed in the city limits, but both places have expectations of the owners of the birds. I just wish the problem of "allowed to roam free house cats" was a hot topic in our town, but I'm straying from the topic.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Aug 29, 2013 12:35:11 GMT -6
LaSalle, Chicago, Evanston, Naperville, Brookfield, Oak Park, Batavia, Winnetka, Northbrook, Belleville, Kirkland, Bartonville, Oswego, Quincy, Urbana, Alton, Plainfield, Pekin, Silvis, Galesburg, Gary In, Green Bay Wi, Madison Wi, Ann Arbor Mi, New York City, Losa Angeles, Burbank, San Francisco, Oklahoma City, Austin, St. Louis, Cincinati, just to name a few cities that have taken a progressive step forward.
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Post by davesez on Aug 29, 2013 13:01:55 GMT -6
Like I said you want chickens country is the place to be .
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Post by metoo on Aug 29, 2013 13:17:07 GMT -6
LaSalle, Chicago, Evanston, Naperville, Brookfield, Oak Park, Batavia, Winnetka, Northbrook, Belleville, Kirkland, Bartonville, Oswego, Quincy, Urbana, Alton, Plainfield, Pekin, Silvis, Galesburg, Gary In, Green Bay Wi, Madison Wi, Ann Arbor Mi, New York City, Losa Angeles, Burbank, San Francisco, Oklahoma City, Austin, St. Louis, Cincinati, just to name a few cities that have taken a progressive step forward. How about Flagstaff? |
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Post by metoo on Aug 29, 2013 13:17:28 GMT -6
Like I said you want chickens country is the place to be . I agree !!!!!! |
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Post by metoo on Aug 29, 2013 13:18:06 GMT -6
LaSalle, Chicago, Evanston, Naperville, Brookfield, Oak Park, Batavia, Winnetka, Northbrook, Belleville, Kirkland, Bartonville, Oswego, Quincy, Urbana, Alton, Plainfield, Pekin, Silvis, Galesburg, Gary In, Green Bay Wi, Madison Wi, Ann Arbor Mi, New York City, Losa Angeles, Burbank, San Francisco, Oklahoma City, Austin, St. Louis, Cincinati, just to name a few cities that have taken a progressive step forward. You are up for a fight Mr. Mitchell Make sure you get you chicks in a row! |
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Post by metoo on Aug 29, 2013 13:29:13 GMT -6
In life, someone is always trying to get away with something, bend the rules and be the exception to the rule. When those things happen it forces somebody to tighten the present rules, like in this case. Somebody always gets grand-fathered, and in this case it's going to be Kyle. Please don't say that he will be. That is very disapointing.  |
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Post by dive61364 on Aug 29, 2013 13:43:19 GMT -6
the city made the laws and someone found a loophole to circumnavigate it.
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Post by darkduke on Aug 29, 2013 13:47:41 GMT -6
LaSalle, Chicago, Evanston, Naperville, Brookfield, Oak Park, Batavia, Winnetka, Northbrook, Belleville, Kirkland, Bartonville, Oswego, Quincy, Urbana, Alton, Plainfield, Pekin, Silvis, Galesburg, Gary In, Green Bay Wi, Madison Wi, Ann Arbor Mi, New York City, Losa Angeles, Burbank, San Francisco, Oklahoma City, Austin, St. Louis, Cincinati, just to name a few cities that have taken a progressive step forward. What is the point of listing these cities Kyle? Comparing these cities to Streator is like comparing apples to oranges. With the exception of LaSalle, these towns are all located in highly populated areas with a developed urban setting. As such, they are limited on "rural space". As another person has posted, Streator has enough rural farmland surrounding it that there is no reason why chickens should be allowed in the city. Chickens are farm animals plain & simple, if someone is that hell bent on raising chickens, then they should of considered purchasing land in the country where it is available versus in the middle of downtown Streator. The same goes for people who build or buy houses near railroad tracks and complain about the noise, near a factory and complain about the truck traffic, etc. I am getting so sick of people wanting there to always be an exception because they made a poor choice to start with. |
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Post by metoo on Aug 29, 2013 13:51:00 GMT -6
the city made the laws and someone found a loophole to circumnavigate it. I agree - and as usual it is the little man |
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Post by metoo on Aug 29, 2013 13:52:29 GMT -6
LaSalle, Chicago, Evanston, Naperville, Brookfield, Oak Park, Batavia, Winnetka, Northbrook, Belleville, Kirkland, Bartonville, Oswego, Quincy, Urbana, Alton, Plainfield, Pekin, Silvis, Galesburg, Gary In, Green Bay Wi, Madison Wi, Ann Arbor Mi, New York City, Losa Angeles, Burbank, San Francisco, Oklahoma City, Austin, St. Louis, Cincinati, just to name a few cities that have taken a progressive step forward. What is the point of listing these cities Kyle? Comparing these cities to Streator is like comparing apples to oranges. With the exception of LaSalle, these towns are all located in highly populated areas with a developed urban setting. As such, they are limited on "rural space". As another person has posted, Streator has enough rural farmland surrounding it that there is no reason why chickens should be allowed in the city. Chickens are farm animals plain & simple, if someone is that hell bent on raising chickens, then they should of considered purchasing land in the country where it is available versus in the middle of downtown Streator. The same goes for people who build or houses near railroad tracks and complain about the noise, near a factory and complain about the truck traffic, etc. I am getting so sick of people wanting there to always be an exception because they made a poor choice to start with. Good job!!!!! |
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Post by darkduke on Aug 29, 2013 13:56:59 GMT -6
In life, someone is always trying to get away with something, bend the rules and be the exception to the rule. When those things happen it forces somebody to tighten the present rules, like in this case. Somebody always gets grand-fathered, and in this case it's going to be Kyle. Willy, Just a thought, but can the ordinance be amended and worded that the amenedment takes effect at the time the original ordinance was written. This would alleviate the grand fathered clause. The reason I ask, is when the State of Illinois revamped it's EMS education guidelines a few years ago, anyone who was currently enrolled in a paramedic program had their current education "suspended" to complete a bridge program and then had to complete an entirely new paramedic program. The state had it worded within the EMS act so that despite anyone who was currently undergoing paramedic training could not be grandfathered in under the old guidelines. I will also go with current aviation training standards. Despite the fact that I could be considered a pilot under the old FAA standards, they amended the flight hour requirements/priveleges effective Aug 1 which has pretty much made my license useless for commercial work until I accure the new increased hours. There was no grandfathering involved. It was basically a too bad, sorry about your luck attitude. |
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Post by honestpolitician on Aug 29, 2013 13:58:41 GMT -6
Like I said you want chickens country is the place to be . YEAH JUST SELL YOUR HOUSE AND BUY ANOTHER OUT IN THE COUNTRY?  ?? SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST PLAIN STUPID. OR GET THE CHICKENS AND JUST SAY THE HELL WITH THE PEOPLE THAT THINK THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO TELL YOU WHAT YOU CAN DO. |
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Aug 29, 2013 13:59:45 GMT -6
For those of you that want to defend the way Kyle went about this, you have that right. Nobody is going to convince me that this wasn't his way of getting over the City of Streator. In one of the earlier posts I believe he told Jeremy Palm that he was going to put bird cages on his roof. Why not be open about it and say, "I'm going to put chicken cages up on my roof?" Jeremy may have had second thoughts. I certainly don't think of chickens in the same reference as I do birds. There is a reason why farm animals are not allowed in the City. I'm sure when it was put on the books there may have been some kind of abuse sometime. Sure, some people wouldn't abuse the right to have chickens, but there is a likely hood there would be a lot of abuse of some of the people that have no regard for our municipal rules. Just as folks don't follow the rules like dogs roaming, I'd bet people wouldn't take proper care of chickens either. I believe chickens belong on a farm as well as roosters. The ordinance reads no farm animals in the city and I really believe most readers would think of a chicken as a farm animal. Just my honest opinion. I said bird cages, because the chickens are birds and are only taking up half of the fenced in area. I have room for some other type of birds as well. The ordinance does not say no farm animals in the city. |
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Aug 29, 2013 14:08:17 GMT -6
In life, someone is always trying to get away with something, bend the rules and be the exception to the rule. When those things happen it forces somebody to tighten the present rules, like in this case. Somebody always gets grand-fathered, and in this case it's going to be Kyle. When they wrote the ordinance they took time to separate out one specific animal not to be allowed anywhere and the rest to be banned only in specific areas. Obviously someone took the time to decide what they wanted for our city. Wouldn't it say banned in residential and CBD id they didn't want to allow it? I followed our laws. |
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?? SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST PLAIN STUPID. OR GET THE CHICKENS AND JUST SAY THE HELL WITH THE PEOPLE THAT THINK THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO TELL YOU WHAT YOU CAN DO.