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Post by mommytoo4 on Jan 10, 2013 21:38:51 GMT -6
The person going door to door has been employed for quite a few years now, they didn't hire someone to do this.
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Post by mommytoo4 on Jan 10, 2013 21:47:04 GMT -6
And before I get jumped on I entirely agree that it is a stupid fee, you have your dog vaccinated and chipped that should be good enough, but that is the city ordinance and has been for years, all the codes and ordinances have gotten out of hand, hence the reason we now live out of the city limits.
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Post by dragonfly on Jan 10, 2013 22:24:04 GMT -6
Doesn't the 4th amendment protect us from unreasonable searches? Isn't this what the city is doing? Searching for houses with dogs? Going and knocking on everyone's door to look for dogs and asking for information can't be legal. Why doesn't someone go to everyone's house and ask if they own a gun and make sure it's registered? See how this is sounding? Dogs, guns, drugs.....have them do it all. I'm just frustrated with the way are rights are fading away.
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Post by rukidding (towns local troll) on Jan 10, 2013 22:31:01 GMT -6
Doesn't the 4th amendment protect us from unreasonable searches? Isn't this what the city is doing? Searching for houses with dogs? Going and knocking on everyone's door to look for dogs and asking for information can't be legal. Why doesn't someone go to everyone's house and ask if they own a gun and make sure it's registered? See how this is sounding? Dogs, guns, drugs.....have them do it all. I'm just frustrated with the way are rights are fading away. Welcome to the NEW AMERICA.
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Post by 34bears on Jan 11, 2013 1:29:18 GMT -6
So, after all is said and done. If my dog gets loose, with his city tag on, will they bring him home now that they have this information, or still take him to the pound and charge extra to get him out?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2013 6:48:05 GMT -6
Doesn't the 4th amendment protect us from unreasonable searches? Isn't this what the city is doing? Searching for houses with dogs? Going and knocking on everyone's door to look for dogs and asking for information can't be legal. Why does the name Hitler come to mind when thinking of them going door to door looking for dogs and information? I know its not on the same scale, but...........what next after dogs?
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Post by wilbert on Jan 11, 2013 7:18:21 GMT -6
Doesn't the 4th amendment protect us from unreasonable searches? Isn't this what the city is doing? Searching for houses with dogs? Going and knocking on everyone's door to look for dogs and asking for information can't be legal. Why does the name Hitler come to mind when thinking of them going door to door looking for dogs and information? I know its not on the same scale, but...........what next after dogs? They will want to document our children. Sorry again, I get that the city wants to control dog ownership but the door to door thing is just crazy and yes, invasive. I too have to wonder if they have legal right to do this. I have no problem showing my proof at all but there will be those that do. I can't see this happening without some sort of fall out.
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Post by father of two on Jan 11, 2013 7:23:32 GMT -6
It is legal and has been for years. Go to the Illinois dept of agriculture website and loo at the laws regarding animal control and pounds/shelters. It is all in there.
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Post by father of two on Jan 11, 2013 7:26:45 GMT -6
If your dog gets loose, do you want it back? Is it like a member of the family? Would you or your kids be upset if you couldn't find your dog? If you answered yes to any of these then give the info and pay the money. Do you have your kids fingerprinted at a young age in case they get kidnapped? Do you license your car? Do you show the Police your proof of insurance and drivers license? Is that an unreasonable search?
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Post by rukidding (towns local troll) on Jan 11, 2013 7:49:28 GMT -6
Here is a Copy of the Codes of Streator in regards to Dogs.
Chapter 6.08 - DOGS
Sections: 6.08.010 - License—Required. 6.08.020 - License—Registration, fees, and tags. 6.08.030 - Rabies inoculation required. 6.08.040 - Running at large. 6.08.050 - Restraint required. 6.08.060 - Notice of impoundment. 6.08.070 - Redemption of dogs impounded. 6.08.080 - Disposition of dogs not redeemed. 6.08.090 - Destruction of private property by dogs. 6.08.100 - Penalty.
6.08.010 - License—Required.
No dog shall be kept in the city without being licensed as provided in this chapter.
(Ord. 2000/01-28 § 2 (part)) 6.08.020 - License—Registration, fees, and tags.
Every dog kept in the city shall be registered annually with the city clerk, who shall be furnished information as to the sex, breed, and name of the dog and the name and address of its owner or keeper. At the time of registration, the owner or keeper shall obtain a license for the dog and shall pay a license fee of fifteen dollars ($15.00), except that pit bull dog owners shall pay a license fee as provided in Chapter 6.12. The owner or keeper shall cause the dog's license tag to be securely attached to a collar or harness worn by the dog and kept there at all times during the license period.
(Ord. 2003/04-2 § 19) 6.08.030 - Rabies inoculation required.
Every owner of a dog four months or more of age not confined at all times to an enclosed area shall cause such dog to be inoculated against rabies by a licensed veterinarian pursuant to 5/10 ILCS 5/8.
(Ord. 2000/01-28 § 2 (part)) 6.08.040 - Running at large.
A. Prohibited. No dog shall be permitted to run at large in the city at any time. A dog shall be considered to be running at large when it is not on its registered owner's property. B. Declared Nuisance. Any dog found running at large in the city is declared to be a nuisance and shall be impounded. (Ord. 2000/01-28 § 2 (part)) 6.08.050 - Restraint required.
Dogs must be on a leash, in an enclosed vehicle, or otherwise physically controlled by their owners or keepers when on any public way or public property. Within the lot lines of the premises occupied by a dog's owner, dogs shall be on a leash or shall be kept inside a fenced and secure enclosure. The owner must be in physical control of the dog if the dog is not restrained inside the owner's property lines. No dog shall be leashed in such a manner that could impede or otherwise interfere with the delivery of municipal or other government services to the owner's property, including without limitation the delivery of mail or reading of meters.
(Ord. 2000/01-28 § 2 (part)) (Ord. No. 2012/13-11, § 1, 10-17-12) 6.08.060 - Notice of impoundment.
Notice of the impounding of a dog shall be given by the pound supervisor or by the animal control officer, at least five days before disposition is made of the dog, to its owner or keeper personally or by registered or certified mail with return receipt requested, if the owner or keeper is known, or becomes known within three days after the dog has been impounded, or is identifiable from any tag worn by the dog.
(Ord. 2000/01-28 § 2 (part)) 6.08.070 - Redemption of dogs impounded.
The owner or keeper of a dog impounded may redeem the dog by paying the applicable license fee, if unpaid, and such reasonable charges as are imposed by the pound.
(Ord. 2000/01-28 § 2 (part)) 6.08.080 - Disposition of dogs not redeemed.
Each dog impounded shall be humanely dispatched or offered for adoption by the pound as a stray dog, if it is not redeemed within five days after notice has been given as provided in this chapter and Chapter 6.12, or if during the period of three days after it has been impounded it has not been redeemed by its owner or keeper, and the owner or keeper remains unknown during this period of three days and cannot be identified by any tag worn by the dog so notice can be given.
(Ord. 2000/01-28 § 2 (part)) 6.08.090 - Destruction of private property by dogs.
It is unlawful for any owner or possessor of any dog to permit such dog to damage or destroy any personal property of another person. The owner or possessor of any animal which damages or destroys any public or private property shall be held liable for the full value of the property damaged or destroyed.
(Ord. 2000/01-28 § 2 (part)) 6.08.100 - Penalty.
Except as provided in Chapter 6.12, any person violating any provision of this chapter and Chapter 6.12 shall be fined on a basis of the following schedule:
A. First offense, not less than fifty dollars ($50.00), and not more than one hundred dollars ($100.00). B. Second offense, not less than seventy-five dollars ($75.00) and not more than one hundred fifty dollars ($150.00). C. Third offense and all offenses thereafter, not less than one hundred dollars ($100.00) and not more than two hundred fifty dollars ($250.00). (Ord. 2000/01-28 § 2 (part))
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Post by wilbert on Jan 11, 2013 7:58:37 GMT -6
If your dog gets loose, do you want it back? Is it like a member of the family? Would you or your kids be upset if you couldn't find your dog? If you answered yes to any of these then give the info and pay the money. Do you have your kids fingerprinted at a young age in case they get kidnapped? Do you license your car? Do you show the Police your proof of insurance and drivers license? Is that an unreasonable search? Yes I get my kids finger printed and register my car. I have no problem registering my pet as yes, my 46 lb. Beagle is a member of my family. I have a problem with them going door to door! You can't possibly think that is a SAFE idea for the animal control officers! I have no problem showing them my dog and providing all the proof of shots and tag but there will be those that will. You've seen the response on here Father of Two. You can't possibly believe that everyone will be as willing to accomidate a stranger coming up to their door on their own private property demanding (nicely I'm sure) to see proof of vaccination, city tag and oh......the actual dog. There has to be a better way. Now I'm going up to City Hall next week to show them all my proof of my dog. Did anyone see if we have to provide a picture of our dog too?
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Post by helencrump on Jan 11, 2013 8:06:24 GMT -6
Of course there will be a problem with it. Especially from those that don't have theirs licensed. If they are up to date, what's so hard about showing the documents, and letting them be on their way? Everything has to be an issue.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2013 8:14:07 GMT -6
If your dog gets loose, do you want it back? Is it like a member of the family? Would you or your kids be upset if you couldn't find your dog? If you answered yes to any of these then give the info and pay the money. Do you have your kids fingerprinted at a young age in case they get kidnapped? Do you license your car? Do you show the Police your proof of insurance and drivers license? Is that an unreasonable search? The police don't come to your HOME to check if you have insurance. They don't come to your HOME to check if you have a drivers license. I have no problem with requiring you license your dog. If your dog gets loose etc, and you do not have it registered, then issue a ticket for failing to register your dog. If you think for one second I buy the idea that it is out of concern that they go door to door so that dogs that get loose can find their way home, then you are mistaken. It's about money, plain and simple. If you go door to door, that's more money that's collected.
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Post by ~* The New Me *~ on Jan 11, 2013 8:26:04 GMT -6
are they going after everyone and every home in town including the drug houses?
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Post by longarm on Jan 11, 2013 8:27:18 GMT -6
I agree your dog or cat needs a license and shots but I am not sure I will let a stranger roam my house.
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