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Post by willy on Jan 3, 2015 22:33:01 GMT -6
I think it's been proven babies really do have an ability to learn, certainly because of all the "toys" of this generation. But mom and dad have got to be willing to help that learning process. My two year granddaughter was signing before she could walk and understood what she wanted when she signed. I couldn't believe it when I 1st saw that. Now she's playing games on her sister's phone. I can't even turn it on. Today we have so much available to aid the learning process, just takes the time to work with the little ones. Just throwing my two cents in.
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Post by octavarium on Jan 4, 2015 1:07:11 GMT -6
Nothing nice to say out of frustration? I'll take a "hug" any day over poop slinging ridicule... . I apologize for my post about your capitalization. That was mean. I am sorry. But since you want to get into handles, and mine being based on a band "from the 80s"... Well, yes, Dream Theater was founded in 1985, but didn't get noticed until 1992, and they are still making some of the best music and performing the best shows out there now. For your enjoyment: And here is "Octavarium":
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Post by chevypower on Jan 4, 2015 2:06:31 GMT -6
Infancy is all a bonding process that set's a child's life up for the better, after that they learn/ you teach them right from wrong. '' infancy' eat, sleep, bond, bond , bond. read to the infant all the time, even when the infant is a fetus still, they can hear you.
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Post by chevypower on Jan 4, 2015 2:09:12 GMT -6
the order is newborn then infant, then child, teen, middle life, elderly too grave.
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Post by chevypower on Jan 4, 2015 2:14:43 GMT -6
My Granddaughter is 18 months old and is trying to write Her name already and loves any electronic device, she moves the screens over to what she wants to see, very smart as was our kids, just lazy from time too time lol
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Post by father of two on Jan 4, 2015 11:58:31 GMT -6
Thanks for your comments Tosh. My nieces kids would sign to her if they needed something and what it was before they could talk. I hadn't thought of that. So it is nice to see some things that are here now to make parenting easier.
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Post by Blue Star on Jan 4, 2015 12:11:58 GMT -6
It's undoubtably true that babies & infants can & have learned more than we knew in the past. I've seen many too, but the OP said, ...
"DISCIPLINE . and . SELF . RESPECT . BEGINS . AT; C O N C E P T I O N / B I R T H ! ! !" ??
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Post by helencrump on Jan 4, 2015 13:06:47 GMT -6
It doesn't take a lot to Understand my concept. Are there not parental figures out there that would allow an infant to reach for something hot; a cigarette, lit candle, electic socket, toxic soaps, detergent, etc.? Infants ARE much more advanced in this day and age than when YOU were an infant. IF you disagree, then go through an Adoption Requirement Application. What are YOU Thinking? B S .......So, you believe the CORRECT AGE to begin DISCIPLINE is post birth when a *15 year old Mother has NO clue because he/she had no Parental disciplinary skills? Parenting skills should be mandatory, especially for teen parents, (in my opinion.) WHICH I'm entitled to! Honestly, there's more than A "single" personal mind set..... Try it, you Might learn something. * *Takes us full circle back to all of your PMs admonishing me for posting the Illinois age to be left on own. You are advocating responsibility on here, but didnt understand why those in charge at Northlawn took steps to ensure safety in those that still need guidance.
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Post by chevypower on Jan 4, 2015 15:04:38 GMT -6
Nothing nice to say out of frustration? I'll take a "hug" any day over poop slinging ridicule... . I apologize for my post about your capitalization. That was mean. I am sorry. But since you want to get into handles, and mine being based on a band "from the 80s"... Well, yes, Dream Theater was founded in 1985, but didn't get noticed until 1992, and they are still making some of the best music and performing the best shows out there now. For your enjoyment: And here is "Octavarium": Such talent within, I had the Album late 80s but forgot all about this band! wow, thank you Octavarium, meaning entity.
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Post by angelsamongus on Jan 5, 2015 19:13:45 GMT -6
octavarium, Apology accepted and appreciated. Thank you !
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Post by angelsamongus on Jan 5, 2015 20:46:29 GMT -6
hc, you have an obsession with "must having the _last_ word. After "3 pages of PM's" insisting you are correct, I'd had enough and came to this conclusion. Now I'm here to say; since you have brought the subject up Once again, continue to argue your half truth and argue with someone else, or FINALLY let it go.
Do you feel any better now that you have a new path of opportunity at having "the last word?"?
Does anyone else care to join in this discussion with "hc?" As she has pointed out and argued with herself multiple times via PM's with me, actually 3 pages worth of PM's, and insists that "fot" agrees because she says "he is a member of the School Board and he knows and agrees; ALL "14 year olds require * Babysitters * to be at the home or place the 14 year old arrives to after school.
I requested hc read an on line website to validate their confirmation, I offered up the 8 page DCFS Downloaed Document Requirements with the * stipulations. * Yet, here hc wants to continue this conversation. I also requested her verification of her information.
Personally, I'm done. I'm finished with this conversation on this topic. I'm over feeling as if I'm speaking to a brick wall/ void space.
Everyone has an opinion, just as everyone has.... Better left unsaid !
I consider myself excused from this thread, it seems to be the polite thing to do. Especially before there is more poop slinging. We all should be entitled to our opinions and there seems to be a few that can't see beyond their own..... opinion /selves.
I apologize; uuuuhm.... NOT. I feel no need to apologize, it is not me being argumentative.... for disagreement / self opinionated sake. I was born blessed with a brain and the ability to use the brain and common sense God gave me. I'm also thankful for the education my parents provided me. This included; to read, to decipher what is correct through the ability to read, grow through knowledge and commonsense. I also Thank God for the freedom to use my mental abilities wisely with the foresight to comprehend what I read and what I have read. The day may come when I suffer from confusion as some others do; for now, my mind is sound.
May I suggest (again) you download The DCFS Document from where I received my information, read and decifer what I've suggested for you; hc? This document is a few 8 short pages of downloaded information AND may I add it is NOT difficult to understand. I do thank you for your deep concerns for the youth of today, I wish there were more parental figures out there and maybe we would have less children in The System.
Oh by the way, it is quite obvious you have twisted my words. Discipline and Self Respect is a learned behavior, if not taught / shown from conception / birth; just when IS the appropriate age to set by example?
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Post by angelsamongus on Jan 5, 2015 20:47:41 GMT -6
hc, you have an obsession with "must having the _last_ word. After "3 pages of PM's" insisting you are correct, I'd had enough and came to this conclusion. Now I'm here to say; since you have brought the subject up Once again, continue to argue your half truth and argue with someone else, or FINALLY let it go.
Do you feel any better now that you have a new path of opportunity at having "the last word?"?
Does anyone else care to join in this discussion with "hc?" As she has pointed out and argued with herself multiple times via PM's with me, actually 3 pages worth of PM's, and insists that "fot" agrees because she says "he is a member of the School Board and he knows and agrees; ALL "14 year olds require * Babysitters * to be at the home or place the 14 year old arrives to after school.
I requested hc read an on line website to validate their confirmation, I offered up the 8 page DCFS Downloaed Document Requirements with the * stipulations. * Yet, here hc wants to continue this conversation. I also requested her verification of her information.
Personally, I'm done. I'm finished with this conversation on this topic. I'm over feeling as if I'm speaking to a brick wall/ void space.
Everyone has an opinion, just as everyone has.... Better left unsaid !
I consider myself excused from this thread, it seems to be the polite thing to do. Especially before there is more poop slinging. We all should be entitled to our opinions and there seems to be a few that can't see beyond their own..... opinion /selves.
I apologize; uuuuhm.... NOT. I feel no need to apologize, it is not me being argumentative.... for disagreement / self opinionated sake. I was born blessed with a brain and the ability to use the brain and common sense God gave me. I'm also thankful for the education my parents provided me. This included; to read, to decipher what is correct through the ability to read, grow through knowledge and commonsense. I also Thank God for the freedom to use my mental abilities wisely with the foresight to comprehend what I read and what I have read. The day may come when I suffer from confusion as some others do; for now, my mind is sound.
May I suggest (again) you download The DCFS Document from where I received my information, read and decifer what I've suggested for you; hc? This document is a few 8 short pages of downloaded information AND may I add it is NOT difficult to understand. I do thank you for your deep concerns for the youth of today, I wish there were more parental figures out there and maybe we would have less children in The System. ? Oh by the way, it is quite obvious you have twisted my words. Discipline and Self Respect is a learned behavior, if not taught / shown from conception / birth; just when IS the appropriate age to set by example?
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Post by angelsamongus on Jan 5, 2015 20:48:06 GMT -6
hc, you have an obsession with "must having the _last_ word. After "3 pages of PM's" insisting you are correct, I'd had enough and came to this conclusion. Now I'm here to say; since you have brought the subject up Once again, continue to argue your half truth and argue with someone else, or FINALLY let it go.
Do you feel any better now that you have a new path of opportunity at having "the last word?"?
Does anyone else care to join in this discussion with "hc?" As she has pointed out and argued with herself multiple times via PM's with me, actually 3 pages worth of PM's, and insists that "fot" agrees because she says "he is a member of the School Board and he knows and agrees; ALL "14 year olds require * Babysitters * to be at the home or place the 14 year old arrives to after school.
I requested hc read an on line website to validate their confirmation, I offered up the 8 page DCFS Downloaed Document Requirements with the * stipulations. * Yet, here hc wants to continue this conversation. I also requested her verification of her information.
Personally, I'm done. I'm finished with this conversation on this topic. I'm over feeling as if I'm speaking to a brick wall/ void space.
Everyone has an opinion, just as everyone has.... Better left unsaid !
I consider myself excused from this thread, it seems to be the polite thing to do. Especially before there is more poop slinging. We all should be entitled to our opinions and there seems to be a few that can't see beyond their own..... opinion /selves.
I apologize; uuuuhm.... NOT. I feel no need to apologize, it is not me being argumentative.... for disagreement / self opinionated sake. I was born blessed with a brain and the ability to use the brain and common sense God gave me. I'm also thankful for the education my parents provided me. This included; to read, to decipher what is correct through the ability to read, grow through knowledge and commonsense. I also Thank God for the freedom to use my mental abilities wisely with the foresight to comprehend what I read and what I have read. The day may come when I suffer from confusion as some others do; for now, my mind is sound.
May I suggest (again) you download The DCFS Document from where I received my information, read and decifer what I've suggested for you; hc? This document is a few 8 short pages of downloaded information AND may I add it is NOT difficult to understand. I do thank you for your deep concerns for the youth of today, I wish there were more parental figures out there and maybe we would have less children in The System. ? Oh by the way, it is quite obvious you have twisted my words. Discipline and Self Respect is a learned behavior, if not taught / shown from conception / birth; just when IS the appropriate age to set by example?
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Post by angelsamongus on Jan 5, 2015 20:48:27 GMT -6
hc, you have an obsession with "must having the _last_ word. After "3 pages of PM's" insisting you are correct, I'd had enough and came to this conclusion. Now I'm here to say; since you have brought the subject up Once again, continue to argue your half truth and argue with someone else, or FINALLY let it go.
Do you feel any better now that you have a new path of opportunity at having "the last word?"?
Does anyone else care to join in this discussion with "hc?" As she has pointed out and argued with herself multiple times via PM's with me, actually 3 pages worth of PM's, and insists that "fot" agrees because she says "he is a member of the School Board and he knows and agrees; ALL "14 year olds require * Babysitters * to be at the home or place the 14 year old arrives to after school.
I requested hc read an on line website to validate their confirmation, I offered up the 8 page DCFS Downloaed Document Requirements with the * stipulations. * Yet, here hc wants to continue this conversation. I also requested her verification of her information.
Personally, I'm done. I'm finished with this conversation on this topic. I'm over feeling as if I'm speaking to a brick wall/ void space.
Everyone has an opinion, just as everyone has.... Better left unsaid !
I consider myself excused from this thread, it seems to be the polite thing to do. Especially before there is more poop slinging. We all should be entitled to our opinions and there seems to be a few that can't see beyond their own..... opinion /selves.
I apologize; uuuuhm.... NOT. I feel no need to apologize, it is not me being argumentative.... for disagreement / self opinionated sake. I was born blessed with a brain and the ability to use the brain and common sense God gave me. I'm also thankful for the education my parents provided me. This included; to read, to decipher what is correct through the ability to read, grow through knowledge and commonsense. I also Thank God for the freedom to use my mental abilities wisely with the foresight to comprehend what I read and what I have read. The day may come when I suffer from confusion as some others do; for now, my mind is sound.
May I suggest (again) you download The DCFS Document from where I received my information, read and decifer what I've suggested for you; hc? This document is a few 8 short pages of downloaded information AND may I add it is NOT difficult to understand. I do thank you for your deep concerns for the youth of today, I wish there were more parental figures out there and maybe we would have less children in The System. ? Oh by the way, it is quite obvious you have twisted my words. Discipline and Self Respect is a learned behavior, if not taught / shown from conception / birth; just when IS the appropriate age to set by example?
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Post by angelsamongus on Jan 5, 2015 20:49:04 GMT -6
hc, you have an obsession with "must having the _last_ word. After "3 pages of PM's" insisting you are correct, I'd had enough and came to this conclusion. Now I'm here to say; since you have brought the subject up Once again, continue to argue your half truth and argue with someone else, or FINALLY let it go.
Do you feel any better now that you have a new path of opportunity at having "the last word?"?
Does anyone else care to join in this discussion with "hc?" As she has pointed out and argued with herself multiple times via PM's with me, actually 3 pages worth of PM's, and insists that "fot" agrees because she says "he is a member of the School Board and he knows and agrees; ALL "14 year olds require * Babysitters * to be at the home or place the 14 year old arrives to after school.
I requested hc read an on line website to validate their confirmation, I offered up the 8 page DCFS Downloaed Document Requirements with the * stipulations. * Yet, here hc wants to continue this conversation. I also requested her verification of her information.
Personally, I'm done. I'm finished with this conversation on this topic. I'm over feeling as if I'm speaking to a brick wall/ void space.
Everyone has an opinion, just as everyone has.... Better left unsaid !
I consider myself excused from this thread, it seems to be the polite thing to do. Especially before there is more poop slinging. We all should be entitled to our opinions and there seems to be a few that can't see beyond their own..... opinion /selves.
I apologize; uuuuhm.... NOT. I feel no need to apologize, it is not me being argumentative.... for disagreement / self opinionated sake. I was born blessed with a brain and the ability to use the brain and common sense God gave me. I'm also thankful for the education my parents provided me. This included; to read, to decipher what is correct through the ability to read, grow through knowledge and commonsense. I also Thank God for the freedom to use my mental abilities wisely with the foresight to comprehend what I read and what I have read. The day may come when I suffer from confusion as some others do; for now, my mind is sound.
May I suggest (again) you download The DCFS Document from where I received my information, read and decifer what I've suggested for you; hc? This document is a few 8 short pages of downloaded information AND may I add it is NOT difficult to understand. I do thank you for your deep concerns for the youth of today, I wish there were more parental figures out there and maybe we would have less children in The System. ? Oh by the way, it is quite obvious you have twisted my words. Discipline and Self Respect is a learned behavior, if not taught / shown from conception / birth; just when IS the appropriate age to set by example?
"n"
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