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Oct 29, 2014 12:51:03 GMT -6
Post by helencrump on Oct 29, 2014 12:51:03 GMT -6
Nurse is wanting her freedom instead of being isolated. What is your thoughts on that? I don't think that's exactly the case. She complained of the manner in which the isolation has taken place. There's not even provisions set up for a shower. On a person that was tested, and negative, she was provided with nothing except a tent and porta potty. There has to be a happy medium, between no monitoring, and total seclusion. Had she tested positive, she would've been placed in the hospital. I feel that what she went through was excessive. And, since she was totally honest, and told where she had been, and what she was doing, how many do you think will take Duncan's route, and lie?
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Oct 29, 2014 12:52:02 GMT -6
Post by helencrump on Oct 29, 2014 12:52:02 GMT -6
Nurse is wanting her freedom instead of being isolated. What is your thoughts on that? I don't think that's exactly the case. She complained of the manner in which the isolation has taken place. There's not even provisions set up for a shower. On a person that was tested, and negative, she was provided with nothing except a tent and porta potty. There has to be a happy medium, between no monitoring, and total seclusion. Had she tested positive, she would've been placed in the hospital. I feel that what she went through was excessive. And, since she was totally honest, and told where she had been, and what she was doing, how many do you think will take Duncan's route, and lie?
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Oct 29, 2014 13:07:25 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2014 13:07:25 GMT -6
t all begin in 1905 when the Jacobson case went to court against the state of Massachusetts. This was a public health law case where the U.S. Supreme Court issued a landmark ruling to upheld the right of the state to force vaccination. The court declared that smallpox was a reasonable threat and that police power of the state could be used to protect the public health and safety of others. (197 U.S. at 25, 25 S.Ct. at 361).
Despite Massachusetts enacted statute that authorized local boards of health to require vaccinations, Jacobson challenged his conviction and refused to be vaccinated against smallpox as required by regulations of the Cambridge Board of Health. The court rejected the idea of an exemption based on personal choice and as a result declared, “The liberty secured by the Constitution of the United States to every person within its jurisdiction does not import an absolute right in each person to be, at all times and in all circumstances, wholly freed from restraint. There are manifold restraints to which every person is necessarily subject for the common good. On any other basis organized society could not exist with safety to its members.” Jacobson v. Massachusetts (197 U.S. at 26, 25 S.Ct. at 361).
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Oct 29, 2014 13:12:36 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2014 13:12:36 GMT -6
New Jersey Bans Halloween Trick-
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Oct 29, 2014 14:48:33 GMT -6
Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Oct 29, 2014 14:48:33 GMT -6
Nurse is wanting her freedom instead of being isolated. What is your thoughts on that? I don't think that's exactly the case. She complained of the manner in which the isolation has taken place. There's not even provisions set up for a shower. On a person that was tested, and negative, she was provided with nothing except a tent and porta potty. There has to be a happy medium, between no monitoring, and total seclusion. Had she tested positive, she would've been placed in the hospital. I feel that what she went through was excessive. And, since she was totally honest, and told where she had been, and what she was doing, how many do you think will take Duncan's route, and lie? HC, she was hardly only given a tent and a porta-potty. From: www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/27/nurse-new-jersey-ebola-quarantine/17993491/ "in its statement, the Health Department sought to counter Hickox's depiction of her "inhumane" living conditions, saying that while in isolation "every effort was made to insure that she remained comfortable with access to a computer, cell phone, reading material and nourishment of choice."Now that she is home, and subject to self quarantine, she is still refusing, and the state of Maine is working on legal remedies. So she is not exactly the victim in this case.
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Oct 29, 2014 16:10:22 GMT -6
Post by helencrump on Oct 29, 2014 16:10:22 GMT -6
hasn't she tested negative twice? This is the problem with media. What I've read, mentions no shower provisions, or outside stimulus.
even if your correct, that she also had a computer and reading material, she IS a victim in all of this.
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Oct 29, 2014 16:30:54 GMT -6
Post by capncrunch on Oct 29, 2014 16:30:54 GMT -6
Has NJ banned Halloween for 2014? By Double Down October 29, 2014 2:15 PM Share on Facebook Share on Twitter If you happened to see an article floating around Facebook or your other social media sites saying that Governor Christie has banned Halloween in New Jersey for 2014 due to Ebola fears, here’s the true story. Where are the best Trick or Treat places in NJ Malls?Eric Miller/Getty Images The article was written by the satirical website the Daily Currant and they wrote a joke piece about how Governor Christie has gotten so concerned about Ebola that he decided to cancel trick or treating. The article is a spoof and IS NOT TRUE. While Governor Christie did postpone Halloween 2 years ago due to Superstorm Sandy, he has not cancelled Halloween or trick or treating for the kids for 2014. The Great Pumpkin will be coming to New Jersey after all! Enjoy your Halloween as scheduled! Read More: Is Trick or Treating Cancelled in New Jersey for 2014? | nj1015.com/has-nj-banned-halloween-for-2014/?trackback=tsmclip
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Oct 29, 2014 18:35:05 GMT -6
hasn't she tested negative twice? This is the problem with media. What I've read, mentions no shower provisions, or outside stimulus. even if your correct, that she also had a computer and reading material, she IS a victim in all of this. I won't say the NJ officials didn't over react, she did after all have a normal temperature even while the forehead thermometer registered 101, I do think she should say exactly that though, not try and portray herself as a victim. Her stance on the self quarantine at her house though is absolutely IGNORANT given her recent work. I am hardly the purveyor of big government, BUT a legitimate function of it is to help prevent the spread of infectious diseases, and this woman, of all people should know exactly how quickly she could infect a whole ton of people.
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Oct 29, 2014 22:56:58 GMT -6
Post by chevypower on Oct 29, 2014 22:56:58 GMT -6
Right on Sniper, She is only thinking of Herself and not others.
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Oct 30, 2014 8:00:53 GMT -6
Post by capncrunch on Oct 30, 2014 8:00:53 GMT -6
NewLink CEO Charles Link.
AP PHOTO/CHARLIE NEIBERGALL
NewLink CEO Charles Link. The Ebola vaccine underdog
Jon is a staff writer for Science. Email Jon By Jon Cohen 28 October 2014 3:15 pm 4 Comments
In the race to develop an Ebola vaccine, little NewLink Genetics has been in the shadow of pharmaceutical giant GlaxoSmithKline (GSK).
Both companies have rushed experimental vaccines into small, early-stage trials. Hopes are high that the vaccines can be ready for large efficacy trials in hard-hit West Africa in January—and if they work, for real-world use in the spring. GSK’s efforts have received extensive media attention, and, with its substantial manufacturing capacity and experience, the mammoth U.K.-based company is widely assumed to be in the lead. In contrast, NewLink, a cancer drug company based in Ames, Iowa, with just 120 employees, has until recently avoided media coverage and drawn criticism for delaying the launch of its studies.
But a different picture emerged after NewLink broke its media silence following a high-level meeting on Ebola vaccines held by the World Health Organization on 23 October. At the meeting, NewLink executives said that, under a best-case scenario, the company might have 12 million doses of vaccine by April. That number would far outstrip GSK’s estimate of 230,000 doses by that date.
There are many caveats. If NewLink’s vaccine requires a high dose to be effective, far fewer people could be immunized. And NewLink’s vaccine, which combines an Ebola gene with a weakened vesicular stomatitis virus (VSV), a livestock pathogen, poses unique risks.
NewLink CEO Charles Link Jr., an oncologist who previously worked at the National Cancer Institute, spoke with Science about the charges of delay and why he is optimistic about the higher projections. This interview has been edited for brevity and clarity.
Q: You recently completed a $1 billion deal with Genentech to develop a cancer immunotherapy. Did those negotiations delay work on the Ebola vaccine and influence your decision to avoid media?
A: I really don’t feel there were any delays. Things are moving so quickly that we’re right on the edge of moving too quickly. There’s a huge push and pull between wanting to do the right thing for humanity and needing to do things safely, scientifically, and ethically in healthy volunteers who are receiving the vaccine. Our view was we didn’t want to hype anything. We just wanted to work on the project. Ebola came first, [the Genentech] negotiation came second, and PR came third. We’ve been trying to play it low-key, but it’s difficult to play it low-key with all this attention.
Q: You licensed the vaccine from the Canadian government for a mere $200,000. Although you have received small contracts from the U.S. government to develop the vaccine, did you have trouble getting substantial funding to support the Ebola program?
A: No doubt. At first, the board didn’t see much commercial potential in it. But when the crisis began to evolve, everybody was: “Let’s go, let’s make this happen.” There was no hesitancy once the crisis began.
Q: What about your projection of 12 million doses available in April?
A: The key question is what is going to be the dose of the vaccine.
Q: Studies under way are looking at doses of 106 virus particles up to 108. The 12 million is based on 106, right?
A: Yes, so if a dose needs to be 106 or 105 virus particles, we’re going to have plenty of vaccine for West Africa if it works.
Q: Why do you think the lower doses might suffice?
A: Even though this vaccine is based on an attenuated virus, it is replicating at least some in humans. In talking to experts who have worked with a lot of attenuated vaccines, you may only need 104 [virus particles] to create the immunologic effect—and we may amend our studies to look at those lower doses.
Q: Do you think the vaccines are going to be safe and effective?
A: In the primate model, such a wide variety of these vaccines work that I really believe one of them is going to be effective in humans. That is my hope and dream here—ours or someone else’s.
Q: What about side effects? The VSV vaccine was used in 2009 to treat a lab worker who had a needlestick injury in Germany. What happened?
A: The woman developed a temperature of 38.5°[C]. I don't think you can have a vaccine that causes high fever in a significant portion of subjects, especially where fever is the first indication of Ebola. But she was given a dose of 5 x 107 [virus particles], based on an extrapolation from monkey studies. We’re hoping that at the lower doses people might have low-grade fevers, but there won’t be high-grade fevers.
Q: Is there a risk of VSV spreading from vaccinated people and infecting livestock?
A: It’s a legitimate concern and we’re looking at ways to evaluate that.
Q: Producing the vaccine in bulk will require large-scale manufacturing capacity. Have you considered linking with big pharma companies that know how to mass-produce vaccine, including putting it into vials?
A: We are in fact in active discussions with a big company about just that potential.
*The Ebola Files: Given the current Ebola outbreak, unprecedented in terms of number of people killed and rapid geographic spread, Science and Science Translational Medicine have made a collection of research and news articles on the viral disease freely available to researchers and the general public.
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Oct 30, 2014 9:32:06 GMT -6
Post by dumdave on Oct 30, 2014 9:32:06 GMT -6
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Oct 30, 2014 9:50:40 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 9:50:40 GMT -6
My daughter came home from school, about two days ago, stating that there was a case of Ebola over in La Salle. Never heard about a case over there.. So I'm wondering what the teachers are telling the students about Ebola. At least the teachers are trying to discuss things that are currently going on.
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Oct 30, 2014 10:16:10 GMT -6
Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Oct 30, 2014 10:16:10 GMT -6
You couldn't hide a case if there was one that close to home.
Lots of paranoia floating around, we need to be vigilant, but rest assured, if a real case hits, you will know.
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Oct 30, 2014 10:38:34 GMT -6
Post by chevypower on Oct 30, 2014 10:38:34 GMT -6
Seems that She is being stripped of Her rights (constitution) because after researching a little I found out that just because they may think She may get Ebola because it takes (21) day's to know for sure...... that they can not make Her stay Home for the (21) day's because She does not have it right now (case at hand) So She may be getting lot's of money from this. But still......... I would follow through with the (21) day's and not be greedy, after all.....if it does come out that She develops Ebola and She was out and about, She would sure feel guilty then.
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Post by dog on Oct 30, 2014 11:28:14 GMT -6
But still......... I would follow through with the (21) day's and not be greedy, after all.....if it does come out that She develops Ebola and She was out and about, She would sure feel guilty then. She would do more than FEEL guilty. I would consider her criminally guilty of at the very least reckless endangerment.
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