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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Feb 22, 2015 11:27:26 GMT -6
I have every confidence that the shooters will be charged and convicted. It doesn't happen in a day or two. Has it been six weeks now? How long do you think it will take? Should we just add it to the list of other unsolved crimes or do you think they are on the verge of catching the bank robbers, child murderers, and arsonists too? Too bad our City leaders can't come up with solutions to some of the real problems here instead of working so hard to try to make business owners out to be illegal.
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Post by dog on Feb 22, 2015 12:09:04 GMT -6
I have every confidence that the shooters will be charged and convicted. It doesn't happen in a day or two. Has it been six weeks now? How long do you think it will take? Should we just add it to the list of other unsolved crimes or do you think they are on the verge of catching the bank robbers, child murderers, and arsonists too? Too bad our City leaders can't come up with solutions to some of the real problems here instead of working so hard to try to make business owners out to be illegal. Not sure how long it will take. I know when I was broken into a few years ago, they were caught in a few days. They were questioned immediately, and charged about a month later.They were finally found guilty about a year later. As for the other cases, you might want to check with the appropriate agency, whether it is the FBI, ISP, or the Fire Marshal's office. They are the ones that have jurisdiction in those cases.
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Post by father of two on Feb 22, 2015 12:39:48 GMT -6
With the backup in the crime labs it may take a couple months. I feel safe and secure in my town and I have every belief that there will be something done in this instance. This isn't an 1 hour tv cop show.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Feb 22, 2015 12:49:28 GMT -6
Has it been six weeks now? How long do you think it will take? Should we just add it to the list of other unsolved crimes or do you think they are on the verge of catching the bank robbers, child murderers, and arsonists too? Too bad our City leaders can't come up with solutions to some of the real problems here instead of working so hard to try to make business owners out to be illegal. Not sure how long it will take. I know when I was broken into a few years ago, they were caught in a few days. They were questioned immediately, and charged about a month later.They were finally found guilty about a year later. As for the other cases, you might want to check with the appropriate agency, whether it is the FBI, ISP, or the Fire Marshal's office. They are the ones that have jurisdiction in those cases. You aren't trying to say that the City of Streator has no jurisdiction to arrest people who have committed these crimes, are you?
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Feb 22, 2015 12:50:33 GMT -6
OMG dog, did they release a description of the suspect including skin color? Yes The name of the shooter is John Doe from Chicago. Now tell me, how would the people from Streator identify John Doe if he isn't from here, and probably doesn't associate with the people of Streator that releasing the name, would be protected from? Is the shooter wearing a name tag? Could they release a description that is so precise that a person walking down the street could say, This is the guy? It is politically incorrect and racially discriminating to identify a person using skin color.
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Post by dog on Feb 22, 2015 13:02:23 GMT -6
Not sure how long it will take. I know when I was broken into a few years ago, they were caught in a few days. They were questioned immediately, and charged about a month later.They were finally found guilty about a year later. As for the other cases, you might want to check with the appropriate agency, whether it is the FBI, ISP, or the Fire Marshal's office. They are the ones that have jurisdiction in those cases. You aren't trying to say that the City of Streator has no jurisdiction to arrest people who have committed these crimes, are you? No, I am saying the investigations are handled primarily by the agencies I listed. They have more resources than we do. Any arrests would be made at the direction or in conjunction with those agencies.Those agencies are doing the investigating and calling the shots, not the City of Streator.
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Post by dog on Feb 22, 2015 13:07:18 GMT -6
The name of the shooter is John Doe from Chicago. Now tell me, how would the people from Streator identify John Doe if he isn't from here, and probably doesn't associate with the people of Streator that releasing the name, would be protected from? Is the shooter wearing a name tag? Could they release a description that is so precise that a person walking down the street could say, This is the guy? It is politically incorrect and racially discriminating to identify a person using skin color. Yeah, the reference to skin color in that post was sarcasm. I know there are people on here (not you) that think it is racial profiling and wrong to list skin color as an identifying trait in a description of a suspect. For the record, I dont see anything wrong with using skin color and any trait that would make the description as accurate as possible. I should have used a winking smiley or something else to signify it was a tongue in cheek comment. My bad.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Feb 23, 2015 10:31:10 GMT -6
Yeah, the reference to skin color in that post was sarcasm. I know there are people on here (not you) that think it is racial profiling and wrong to list skin color as an identifying trait in a description of a suspect. For the record, I dont see anything wrong with using skin color and any trait that would make the description as accurate as possible. I should have used a winking smiley or something else to signify it was a tongue in cheek comment. My bad. Well, you certainly took your sarcasm far. So are you saying that they should release a description including skin color even though it may not make us know for sure that the people we associate with are those who commit the crimes? Do you still think that the shooters do not associate with people of Streator? The Mayor said that he didn't release information on the shooters because he didn't want them to leave the area, but they did release information on this robbery suspect. Aren't they afraid that he will leave the area now? City leaders comment in the paper that they want shooters to stay in the area, but that people who have invested a lot into businesses here should just leave if they don't like the way the City is run. Doesn't it seem that they despise Freedom of Speech over shoot outs? I really think they should re-evaluate their priorities.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Feb 23, 2015 10:34:18 GMT -6
You aren't trying to say that the City of Streator has no jurisdiction to arrest people who have committed these crimes, are you? No, I am saying the investigations are handled primarily by the agencies I listed. They have more resources than we do. Any arrests would be made at the direction or in conjunction with those agencies. Those agencies are doing the investigating and calling the shots, not the City of Streator.I won't deny that larger agencies have more resources than the City of Streator does, but who has more local resources? Are you saying that the City of Streator just leaves it up to the larger agencies to solve the local crimes? Don't you think that the City of Streator should work WITH those larger agencies to solve the local crimes? With all the different crimes here that seem to have no consequences including urinating in public, drinking in public, street fights, a mugging, shootings, murders, arson, robberies, etc., the City of Streator seems to be the one thing in common. Haven't you seen posts from others here about how much the local authorities hate it when ISP comes to town? Perhaps you already know that I have indeed gone to other agencies to ask for assistance with the lack of enforcement of the laws locally from the City of Streator. Perhaps you should try doing that. The comments that I received didn't make it seem like the City of Streator works well WITH other agencies. Has the City of Streator asked ISP, the County and other agencies for more help to enforce the laws locally? Maybe the City of Streator should worry more about getting the crimes solved instead of trying to make business owners out to be illegal. Don't you think?
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Feb 26, 2015 7:53:50 GMT -6
No, I am saying the investigations are handled primarily by the agencies I listed. They have more resources than we do. Any arrests would be made at the direction or in conjunction with those agencies. Those agencies are doing the investigating and calling the shots, not the City of Streator.I won't deny that larger agencies have more resources than the City of Streator does, but who has more local resources? Are you saying that the City of Streator just leaves it up to the larger agencies to solve the local crimes? Don't you think that the City of Streator should work WITH those larger agencies to solve the local crimes? With all the different crimes here that seem to have no consequences including urinating in public, drinking in public, street fights, a mugging, shootings, murders, arson, robberies, etc., the City of Streator seems to be the one thing in common. Haven't you seen posts from others here about how much the local authorities hate it when ISP comes to town? Perhaps you already know that I have indeed gone to other agencies to ask for assistance with the lack of enforcement of the laws locally from the City of Streator. Perhaps you should try doing that. The comments that I received didn't make it seem like the City of Streator works well WITH other agencies. Has the City of Streator asked ISP, the County and other agencies for more help to enforce the laws locally? Maybe the City of Streator should worry more about getting the crimes solved instead of trying to make business owners out to be illegal. Don't you think? Well dog, aren't you going to come back to try to defend the City of Streator by trying to say that the many unsolved crimes here are the fault of other agencies? If the lack of enforcement allowing perpetrators to continue committing crimes here with no consequences is the fault of other agencies, shouldn't our City leaders inform the public of that? We've heard City supporters claim that it is the State's Attorney's Office that is the problem. However when the tourist was beaten on Main St. the SA's office called me to ask the name of the victim saying that the City of Streator wouldn't provide them with a Police report. Does that sound like the City of Streator was working WITH the other agency to solve crime here? It seems to me that the problem is that the City of Streator doesn't work WITH the other agencies, making criminals feel comfortable to keep committing crimes here. Meanwhile our City seems to enjoy working to make business owners out to be criminals.
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Post by mommytoo4 on Feb 26, 2015 7:59:12 GMT -6
How did the SA's office know a crime was committed if there were no charges filed or police reports made, and they also just happened to know that you witnessed it!
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Feb 26, 2015 10:00:00 GMT -6
How did the SA's office know a crime was committed if there were no charges filed or police reports made, and they also just happened to know that you witnessed it! It was from one of my attempts to seek help from other agencies with better enforcement of laws locally. When the tourist was beaten on Main St., I sent Mr. Towne a letter about it. That was years ago when I was trying to work WITH the City of Streator to create a better business environment, before I started being so public about the problems and asking for new leaders. Now, I work on my own to try to keep reminding them and others that the problems that they don't seem to have solutions for continue to exist and do hurt our community.
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Post by cmon on Feb 26, 2015 11:23:33 GMT -6
How's that "working on your own" going?
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Post by dog on Feb 26, 2015 12:47:41 GMT -6
I won't deny that larger agencies have more resources than the City of Streator does, but who has more local resources? Are you saying that the City of Streator just leaves it up to the larger agencies to solve the local crimes? Don't you think that the City of Streator should work WITH those larger agencies to solve the local crimes? With all the different crimes here that seem to have no consequences including urinating in public, drinking in public, street fights, a mugging, shootings, murders, arson, robberies, etc., the City of Streator seems to be the one thing in common. Haven't you seen posts from others here about how much the local authorities hate it when ISP comes to town? Perhaps you already know that I have indeed gone to other agencies to ask for assistance with the lack of enforcement of the laws locally from the City of Streator. Perhaps you should try doing that. The comments that I received didn't make it seem like the City of Streator works well WITH other agencies. Has the City of Streator asked ISP, the County and other agencies for more help to enforce the laws locally? Maybe the City of Streator should worry more about getting the crimes solved instead of trying to make business owners out to be illegal. Don't you think? Well dog, aren't you going to come back to try to defend the City of Streator by trying to say that the many unsolved crimes here are the fault of other agencies? If the lack of enforcement allowing perpetrators to continue committing crimes here with no consequences is the fault of other agencies, shouldn't our City leaders inform the public of that? We've heard City supporters claim that it is the State's Attorney's Office that is the problem. However when the tourist was beaten on Main St. the SA's office called me to ask the name of the victim saying that the City of Streator wouldn't provide them with a Police report. Does that sound like the City of Streator was working WITH the other agency to solve crime here? It seems to me that the problem is that the City of Streator doesn't work WITH the other agencies, making criminals feel comfortable to keep committing crimes here. Meanwhile our City seems to enjoy working to make business owners out to be criminals. I dont need to defend the city in this matter, it is common knowledge that when another agency takes over an investigation,the local authorities follow the orders and instructions of the higher agency. Our guys dont investigate those cases unless instructed to by the agency with jursidiction. I guess if the tourist didnt bother to file a complaint, then the States Attorney wouldnt have the name of the victim. Do you really think that this States Attorney is going to bother with a crime that not even the victim bothers to report or press charges? Brian Towne doesnt even want to prosecute petty cases where he has a willing complaintent. He is more concerned with and spends his resources going after the high profile cases such as major drug busts along the interstate. BTW, doesnt it seem strange that now you actually ARE illegal, for not removing snow in accordance with the ordinance? So I guess you cant talk about the city calling you illegal when you are not, since you are now illegal. Funny, I dont see the city calling you illegal now, or fining you.
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Post by dog on Feb 26, 2015 12:50:22 GMT -6
How's that "working on your own" going? Doesnt appear to be working so good for him. Ever since he got really vocal, and "working on his own" his son had to move hundreds of miles away so dad's "good intentions" wouldn't cause him to lose another business.
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