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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Jan 29, 2015 11:37:48 GMT -6
Aren't you glad that my comments about not trusting our leaders and government have been kept local?
From USA Today:
Jeff Malnar, 46, a corrections officer from Streator, Ill., has little trust in government, though. "You don't have that leader you look to and say, we're going to be OK. You can hope, you can pray, but I don't see how that's going to happen." He's worried that a new union contract being negotiated for July will lead to job cuts or pay cuts. "If I lose money out of my check in any type of way, I lose my house."
Yet some people here think that I should not be concerned at all about our leaders (term used loosely) attacking my family's credibility, targeting my son's business, or allowing so many negative incidents to continue that keep people and their wallets away from the area, causing a loss of income. I'm glad that Mr. Malnar seems to understand.
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Post by dog on Jan 29, 2015 12:02:10 GMT -6
The FBI is responsible for investigating bank robberies. The robber probably hopped into your building and is enjoying fresh eggs and popcorn, and is going to watch the game on your big screen. You don't think that bank robberies are all the FBI is responsible for investigating, do you? Aren't they also responsible for investigating things like government corruption and organized crime as well? You were asking if they were caught along with the person who wasn't caught from the last bank robbery. I wasn't sure if you were aware that the FBI is responsible for and has jurisdiction over bank robberies and not local authorities. I suggested you contact the proper authority, which is the FBI.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Jan 29, 2015 12:18:15 GMT -6
You don't think that bank robberies are all the FBI is responsible for investigating, do you? Aren't they also responsible for investigating things like government corruption and organized crime as well? You were asking if they were caught along with the person who wasn't caught from the last bank robbery. I wasn't sure if you were aware that the FBI is responsible for and has jurisdiction over bank robberies and not local authorities. I suggested you contact the proper authority, which is the FBI. Yes, I was aware and like I said I think it was a good suggestion for everyone in Streator since they do also investigate government corruption and organized crime as well. FBI - Chicago Division - Southern Territory 15321 South 94th Avenue, Second Floor Orland Park, Illinois 60462 Phone: (708) 349-0004 Counties: Cook (southern), Grundy, Kendall, LaSalle, and Will
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Post by father of two on Jan 29, 2015 12:20:28 GMT -6
Mr Malnar works as a correction officer and is referring to state leaders.
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Post by dog on Jan 29, 2015 12:30:02 GMT -6
Mr Malnar works as a correction officer and is referring to state leaders. And in an article that is about the federal government. I dont see any mention of local government anywhere in the article. I agree with Mr Malnar, I dont trust our leaders at the state and federal levels either. Both Jeff and Jenny seem to work well with our local leaders, and take the better approach of trying to better the community by being positive and not dwelling on the past.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Jan 29, 2015 14:35:31 GMT -6
Mr Malnar works as a correction officer and is referring to state leaders. And in an article that is about the federal government. I dont see any mention of local government anywhere in the article. I agree with Mr Malnar, I dont trust our leaders at the state and federal levels either. Both Jeff and Jenny seem to work well with our local leaders, and take the better approach of trying to better the community by being positive and not dwelling on the past. Federal, State, or local, he doesn't really specify and does it really matter considering that some of our local leaders have proven that they can not be trusted? My point is that Mr. Malnar seems to understand how our government messing with people's livelihood can be a very bad thing. My son's business was experiencing good growth until our City leaders publicly and falsely declared my family illegal. Then they targeted his business with their selective enforcement of overly restrictive ordinances as their supporters began promoting boycotts of the business. They attacked his livelihood and drove him out of Streator. Dwelling on the past? I'm not dwelling on it just talking about it until the problems get corrected. You don't think that City leaders publicly and falsely making people out to be criminals was just a one time thing, do you? It was just a couple of months ago that Willy felt compelled to do it yet again. You don't think that the excessive violence is just something from the past, do you? Despite years and years of trying to get it cleaned up, we still have excessive numbers of violence incidents printed in the paper and it has now progressed to shootings too. Since our City leaders didn't release information about the shooters so that they stayed in the area, don't you expect that there will be more shoot outs here? I am not dwelling on the past, these problems are still very current. Are you trying to imply that it is perfectly acceptable to say that you don't trust leaders at the State and Federal level, but if it is said about local leaders it is wrong, not working with them in a positive way? Didn't our State and Federal representatives also get elected on their "visions"? I bet that most of them told a lot more about their visions at election time than Mayor Lansford did. Since you think I should just accept Mayor Lansford's secret "vision" for Streator without giving my opinions, don't you think that you and Mr. Malnar should also just go along with everything our State and Federal leaders do without voicing your opinions about it either?
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Post by dog on Jan 29, 2015 17:01:04 GMT -6
Since you think I should just accept Mayor Lansford's secret "vision" for Streator without giving my opinions, don't you think that you and Mr. Malnar should also just go along with everything our State and Federal leaders do without voicing your opinions about it either? I don't think Mr Malnar nor myself will be voicing our opinion day after day after day after day after day after day after day. I know Jeff, and I would consider both of us to be do'ers rather than whiners.
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Post by Anonymous on Jan 30, 2015 7:33:49 GMT -6
You were asking if they were caught along with the person who wasn't caught from the last bank robbery. I wasn't sure if you were aware that the FBI is responsible for and has jurisdiction over bank robberies and not local authorities. I suggested you contact the proper authority, which is the FBI. Yes, I was aware and like I said I think it was a good suggestion for everyone in Streator since they do also investigate government corruption and organized crime as well. FBI - Chicago Division - Southern Territory 15321 South 94th Avenue, Second Floor Orland Park, Illinois 60462 Phone: (708) 349-0004 Counties: Cook (southern), Grundy, Kendall, LaSalle, and WillOh my gosh! You should SO go to their office in person and talk to the agent in charge of walk-ins on the day you visit. That would be EPIC! I know for a FACT that Sister Connie, the lady who owned the Plumb Hotel, showed up there with her scrapbook of newspaper clippings and complained about the Mayor and city government at that time. Please say you'll go. That'll make my day.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Jan 30, 2015 10:42:42 GMT -6
Since you think I should just accept Mayor Lansford's secret "vision" for Streator without giving my opinions, don't you think that you and Mr. Malnar should also just go along with everything our State and Federal leaders do without voicing your opinions about it either? I don't think Mr Malnar nor myself will be voicing our opinion day after day after day after day after day after day after day. I know Jeff, and I would consider both of us to be do'ers rather than whiners. Doesn't they day after day after day just show a much higher level of commitment to getting solutions to the problems so that we might have a better community? Whining? is that what you call people talking about their lack of trust for our leaders, wanting better for their community, and trying to protect their assess? I used to "do" a lot more, but then the City's vindictive attacks made me stop. Being falsely and publicly declared a criminal by our City leaders worked against my authority to supervise community service workers to clean up graffiti in our parks among other things. When they made it clear that they didn't want my family in the community I started to really try putting my efforts to improve Streator in different directions. I didn't stop "doing" though. Among many other things, I held candidate events to try to let the public hear more about the "visions" of candidates, but some were obviously keeping their visions secret. Do you think I have stopped "doing" now? How do you know that I haven't been "doing" work on another project to try to improve Streator? It could even be something that our Mayor suggested! I haven't just been sitting around whining, I am still "doing" as well.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Jan 30, 2015 10:46:19 GMT -6
Yes, I was aware and like I said I think it was a good suggestion for everyone in Streator since they do also investigate government corruption and organized crime as well. FBI - Chicago Division - Southern Territory 15321 South 94th Avenue, Second Floor Orland Park, Illinois 60462 Phone: (708) 349-0004 Counties: Cook (southern), Grundy, Kendall, LaSalle, and WillOh my gosh! You should SO go to their office in person and talk to the agent in charge of walk-ins on the day you visit. That would be EPIC! I know for a FACT that Sister Connie, the lady who owned the Plumb Hotel, showed up there with her scrapbook of newspaper clippings and complained about the Mayor and city government at that time. Please say you'll go. That'll make my day. How do you know that I haven't already done that? Maybe I even invited them to come to Streator this weekend to watch the Super Bowl in one of our downtown bars. Wouldn't that just be EPIC too? With the crap going on inside the bar, don't you think they could at least control the crap going on on the outside so that other businesses like a movie palace could survive? Don't they make enough money from legal gambling and serving only people who are not already intoxicated so that they not only skip out on paying their fair share of taxes on their revenue, but also have to create an environment that many people don't want to bring their families around so the rest of Streator that may not be into gambling can have things like a movie theatre? Sooner or later I feel enough people will get tired of our City leaders allowing these things to continue to hurt our community and contact authorities to ask them to help clean it up. Social media has been proving very helpful to collect comments from others to forward to the FBI and other agencies to add credibility to what I say. Here are a couple other agencies people can contact: ILLINOIS DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE BUREAU OF CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION 101 WEST JEFFERSON STREET PO BOX 19014 SPRINGFIELD, ILLINOIS 62794-9014 800 CHEAT 11 (1 800 243-2811) tax.illinois.gov/fraud/fraudreport.htmIllinois Liquor Control Commission Springfield Office Mon-Fri, 8:30am–5:00pm 101 W. Jefferson St, 3-525 Springfield, IL 62702 217.782.2136 www.illinois.gov/ilcc/Divisions/Pages/Investigations/File-Complaint.aspxSince you seem to have so many FACTS on Sister Connie, why don't you fill me in? What year did she go to the FBI? What specifically was her complaints about our City leaders? Who were they at the time? What was the result of her visit with them? Yes, Streator has quite the history of government corruption, doesn't it? That is why I would think that our City leaders would be much more open and forth coming, wouldn't you? Instead they attack my family because I asked for better for our community.
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Post by Anonymous on Jan 30, 2015 13:50:29 GMT -6
Oh my gosh! You should SO go to their office in person and talk to the agent in charge of walk-ins on the day you visit. That would be EPIC! I know for a FACT that Sister Connie, the lady who owned the Plumb Hotel, showed up there with her scrapbook of newspaper clippings and complained about the Mayor and city government at that time. Please say you'll go. That'll make my day. How do you know that I haven't already done that? Maybe I even invited them to come to Streator this weekend to watch the Super Bowl in one of our downtown bars. Wouldn't that just be EPIC too? Cool! Kudos if you did go. I'm sure it made their day. Did you show them your videos, too? I think the ones with you narrating would really clinch it for them. Which is it? Urination in the streets and tourist getting beat up or gambling that caused The Majestic to fail? Yes, because we know everybody on Social Media and the internet are trustworthy credible sources. Craigslist, much? You'd have to ask the agent she talked to for specifics but I bet he's retired. Ask people about Sister Connie and her reign on Main Street. Her main beef was they tried to stop the destruction of the Plumb Hotel that she caused. She felt it was her building to do with what she wanted and she didn't have to follow the same rules as everybody else. Sounds kind of familiar.
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Post by helencrump on Jan 30, 2015 16:50:02 GMT -6
Wasnt she committed for a short time after that?
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Post by helencrump on Jan 30, 2015 16:50:22 GMT -6
Wasnt she committed for a short time after that?
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Jan 30, 2015 19:22:19 GMT -6
Don't they make enough money from legal gambling and serving only people who are not already intoxicated so that they not only skip out on paying their fair share of taxes on their revenue, but also have to create an environment that many people don't want to bring their families around so the rest of Streator that may not be into gambling can have things like a movie theatre? Which is it? Urination in the streets and tourist getting beat up or gambling that caused The Majestic to fail? Both. They are interrelated, both illegal and both seemingly allowed by the same arrangement. The violence and other negative results of the over-serving work to create the on-going reputation that keeps many good families away from the area, while the gambling drains much of the limited amount of financial resources available for entertainment out of the community's pockets. Social media has been proving very helpful to collect comments from others to forward to the FBI and other agencies to add credibility to what I say. Yes, because we know everybody on Social Media and the internet are trustworthy credible sources. Craigslist, much? In case you haven't noticed, information gained from social media is used for investigations quiet often and people can be held accountable for what they say there as well. On Facebook many more people put their names behind what they have to say and it does add credibility. Having comments about the illegal activities and lack of enforcement from others helps substantiate what I say. Why would there be anything on these subjects on craigslist? Since you seem to have so many FACTS on Sister Connie, why don't you fill me in? What year did she go to the FBI? What specifically was her complaints about our City leaders? Who were they at the time? What was the result of her visit with them? You'd have to ask the agent she talked to for specifics but I bet he's retired. Ask people about Sister Connie and her reign on Main Street. Her main beef was they tried to stop the destruction of the Plumb Hotel that she caused. She felt it was her building to do with what she wanted and she didn't have to follow the same rules as everybody else. Why would I ask others, You were the one saying that you had FACTS? How is it that you know for a FACT that she went to the FBI, but can't even tell me what year? How exactly did she cause the destruction of the hotel? I heard that she owned it, wouldn't that make it hers to do what she wanted with? Did she leave the hotel sit vacant and wide open with easy access in multiple places? Did it have exposed plywood facing Main St. for years? Did it have an illegal sign? Did it look as deplorable as the safety hazard of a building that our City owns and keeps in our downtown now? Did she own the hotel or did the City? If she owned it and was doing what she wanted with it, can they really do anything more than charge her with violations of law? If the City wanted something specific done with the hotel, maybe they should have bought it. By rules, do you mean laws? What laws exactly was she not following? Are you sure that wasn't that she just didn't go along with everything the City leaders wanted, so they made it out as if she was in violation of some laws? Did they charge her with breaking actual laws to give her a chance to defend herself in court, or did they just publicly declare her guilty after they made some secret judgment against her? Please tell me what laws did she break that everyone else was following? Are you trying to imply that I did not follow some laws? Other than my son displaying merchandise outside before he found out it was illegal because it was continuously allowed at many other businesses, what laws would it be that you could think I did not follow? I know that the has City tried multiple times to make it out as if my family are criminals, but then they weren't even able to back up their claims. What laws could you be implying that I didn't follow but everyone else does? It is our City that has not followed our laws. I have several examples if you would like me to list them. [/quote]
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Post by Anonymous on Jan 31, 2015 17:00:33 GMT -6
The violence and other negative results of the over-serving work to create the on-going reputation that keeps many good families away from the area Are you implying that the customers who DO frequent the stores in that area are from bad families? That only bad families would risk running into an alley pee-er? Are you saying because we DO frequent that area that we are SEEKING out violence, perhaps as a form of entertainment?* Are you trying to say that there is another "secret location" where good families go to buy their hardware items, carpeting, menswear, furniture, etc? Furthermore, are you insinuating because I do frequent Ace Hardware, Trainor Floor Covering, Rashid's Menswear, Don's Furniture, H & H Mercantile, et al that I am not from a good family? Hey! I just thought of a USE for your building. You could rent out the rooftop ala the Wrigley Field rooftops and we could all watch the action that you say constantly takes place within eyesight of it. You could serve popcorn, perhaps get the grill going, (I love grilled chicken), put stadium seating in, think of it as your very own little majestic outdoor show palace. I see $$$. Jump on it! If you work through the night we might even be able to catch the gambling raid that is sure to take place because of the Super Bowl. (*That sentence is where I came up with this surefire moneymaker idea. Cheap entertainment. Feel free to use my idea.)
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