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Post by Anonymous on Jan 31, 2015 17:00:58 GMT -6
Wasnt she committed for a short time after that? I think so.
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Post by chevypower on Jan 31, 2015 18:05:05 GMT -6
lol that was funny about the roof top that is.
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Post by Anonymous on Jan 31, 2015 18:14:20 GMT -6
lol that was funny about the roof top that is. It's GENIUS! We could get in on the ground floor (so to speak) and perhaps become season ticket holders. Maybe Kyle would give us a break on the cost. If not "us" as in the members of the SO, at least ME since it was MY idea. I'm going to start a Pinterest board with ideas of things he could do to make it a fun time for all ages. After all, the kids in this town desperately need something to do, too. Am I right? Or am I right?
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Post by chevypower on Jan 31, 2015 18:16:59 GMT -6
lol right.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Jan 31, 2015 19:22:41 GMT -6
The violence and other negative results of the over-serving work to create the on-going reputation that keeps many good families away from the area Are you implying that the customers who DO frequent the stores in that area are from bad families? That only bad families would risk running into an alley pee-er? Are you saying because we DO frequent that area that we are SEEKING out violence, perhaps as a form of entertainment?* Are you trying to say that there is another "secret location" where good families go to buy their hardware items, carpeting, menswear, furniture, etc? Furthermore, are you insinuating because I do frequent Ace Hardware, Trainor Floor Covering, Rashid's Menswear, Don's Furniture, H & H Mercantile, et al that I am not from a good family? My statement was clear, obviously I wasn't implying those things. What's the matter, couldn't you answer my questions because Sister Connie didn't break any laws doing what she wanted with her building, but it was just that the City just didn't like it? Was it just another case of the City's vindictive attacks making people out to be doing something criminal when they are not? She felt it was her building to do with what she wanted and she didn't have to follow the same rules as everybody else. Sounds kind of familiar. I noticed that you didn't come up with any laws that you think I could have broken either. Was your "sounds familiar" comment referring to our City leaders not following our laws or are you like them in that you also make false claims that you can't back up to try to make people look like criminals when they are not? Why do our City leaders have such disregard for following laws? Considering that we have so few businesses, don't you think that our City leaders should be going after the actual criminals fighting in our streets, holding shoot outs and robbing banks instead of constantly going after business owners who are not even breaking the laws?
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Post by father of two on Jan 31, 2015 20:18:20 GMT -6
She had cut open a huge hole in the roof to Let the smoke out from the fires she had to keep warm. She had no utilities and was tearing apart rooms to burn the wood. The structural integrity was becoming compromised by rain and snow weakening the structure. That and the possible event that she would have a fire get out if control and if that happened other businesses would have been in danger as well as firemen.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Jan 31, 2015 21:05:08 GMT -6
She had cut open a huge hole in the roof to Let the smoke out from the fires she had to keep warm. She had no utilities and was tearing apart rooms to burn the wood. The structural integrity was becoming compromised by rain and snow weakening the structure. That and the possible event that she would have a fire get out if control and if that happened other businesses would have been in danger as well as firemen. So what laws did she break? Is cutting a hole in the roof of your own building illegal? Not having utilities shouldn't be illegal and it is very common for people to use fire to stay warm. Do you think it is illegal to tear apart rooms in your own building? Don't you think that the rain and snow entering the City's 220 E Main St. poor excuse for a building that supposedly is structurally holding up privately owned buildings has been weakening that structure for years and years too? Didn't the Majestic have water running through it for years even while it was open? Did they file charges against her based on the remote possibility that a fire could get out of control? Will they be going after everyone in Streator with a fireplace or wood stove because they might also someday let a fire get out of control? Anonymous says that she wasn't following the laws that everyone else has to, so the question was and still is, what laws was it that she broke or did the City of Streator just attack her character to make the community think she was a criminal like they did to my family? Why does the City of Streator falsely attack business owners making them out to be criminals when they are not? Don't you think they should be going after the uncaught street fighters, "shoot out" participants, bank robbers, murderers, arsonists, etc. that continue destroying our community before they worry so much about their vindictive attacks against business owners who are following the laws and trying to make our community a better place?
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Post by father of two on Jan 31, 2015 21:22:57 GMT -6
I think if someone is mentally unstable then yes the city should step in to protect them and the community, in this instance. She was burning the wood in a barrel. No ventilation, no piping for smoke. So it was a fire hazard. No I don't agree with the condition of the city building. It should be sealed and closed off. Unfortunately they don't comply. I do know that it can't be taken down because of the common walls with neighboring buildings. There are a lot of things that happen in this town that I don't agree with. That's why I chose to run for council twice. My difference with you is that I don't think it needs to be shouted every single day. That's where it loses its effectiveness and alienates supporters. I rxpress my concerns to city officials in a respective manner and move on. If they agree with me and act on it, fine. If not I move on and vote for someone else the next election. They're not there to please any single citizen but to work towards the betterment of the community. It takes time. I happen to think overall they are moving in the right direction. Do I agree with all they do? No. I have every confidence that the shooters will be charged and convicted. It doesn't happen in a day or two. As I have said before when it comes to the fights if the combatants don't want to press charges the police are basically helpless. The city should enact an ordinance to grant police the ability to charge them and take them in. I also believe I would rather see a bigger emphasis put on the drugs in this town. Clean up the drugs and the drug element would be a huge step. Much more if a priority to me than the occasional fight between two drunken idiots.
I also never thought you were a criminal. You are the one who has said that. The city wrongly lumped everyone living downtown into one group and said the wrong thing. Get over it. You won't get an apology. Willy never said you were living in the majestic illegally. What he said was that the fire dept official said he noticed some sleeping material inside the theater and asked what should be done. Willy replied do nothing. That's not turning his head. That's saying dont do anything because there is no wrongdoing.
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Post by Anonymous on Feb 1, 2015 8:53:56 GMT -6
Hey! I just thought of a USE for your building. You could rent out the rooftop ala the Wrigley Field rooftops and we could all watch the action that you say constantly takes place within eyesight of it. You could serve popcorn, perhaps get the grill going, (I love grilled chicken), put stadium seating in, think of it as your very own little majestic outdoor show palace. I see $$$. Jump on it! If you work through the night we might even be able to catch the gambling raid that is sure to take place because of the Super Bowl. Are you purposely editing what you quoted from me, Kyle, because you are afraid if you ran with my idea that under your tutelage it would be a failure and end up being just another footnote in the history of your building? So, rather than address it you are going to ignore it? I'll admit it's not aquaponics or a second hand store, but you have to work with the situation. Your building is in an area that you deem undesirable, dangerous and lacking of quality things for a good family to do. My suggestion is to adapt and cash in on it. When life hands you lemons, make vodka lemonade. (Put that on the menu, too. Very refreshing on a hot day.)
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Post by father of two on Feb 1, 2015 9:01:40 GMT -6
Anon, I agree with you in part. When he says it keeps good families away that's what I took from it. His reply that that wasn't what he was implying is exactly what he does to people on here.
If you go to areas of town near the majestic you're not a good family. The proper thing to say if he didn't mean this would have been to say, "it keeps families away".
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Post by Anonymous on Feb 1, 2015 9:18:33 GMT -6
When he starts his familiar refrain "Are you implying..." we should all answer, "My statement was clear, obviously I wasn't implying those things." He likes to use our words in a matter that suits him, so we should do the same. He reads what he wants to read into things we all say. He has one agenda and one agenda only. Knockdown our town. Even when we do get new blood on the council he still can't see any progress. So why is he asking for new leaders? We have gotten new leaders. Even when situations are addressed that he has mentioned ad nauseam, it's not enough. It will never be enough until the city kowtows to him. Until a Kyle Mitchell Saves The Day is established and he is given the key to the city. Presumably, we as a community do not appreciate him and all he has bestowed upon us with his presence and investment. We need to pay for that slight and he is here on this forum to make sure we do.
But, don't feel bad fellow Streatorites. It'll happen again in another city. If we were to create a (Insert current city's name) Online forum for the town where he currently is employed or living or whatever, eventually he would feel slighted by them and find his way to that forum, too. It would be just a matter of time.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Feb 1, 2015 12:12:33 GMT -6
I think if someone is mentally unstable then yes the city should step in to protect them and the community, in this instance. She was burning the wood in a barrel. No ventilation, no piping for smoke. So it was a fire hazard. No I don't agree with the condition of the city building. It should be sealed and closed off. Unfortunately they don't comply. I do know that it can't be taken down because of the common walls with neighboring buildings. There are a lot of things that happen in this town that I don't agree with. That's why I chose to run for council twice. My difference with you is that I don't think it needs to be shouted every single day. That's where it loses its effectiveness and alienates supporters. I rxpress my concerns to city officials in a respective manner and move on. If they agree with me and act on it, fine. If not I move on and vote for someone else the next election. They're not there to please any single citizen but to work towards the betterment of the community. It takes time. I happen to think overall they are moving in the right direction. Do I agree with all they do? No. I have every confidence that the shooters will be charged and convicted. It doesn't happen in a day or two. As I have said before when it comes to the fights if the combatants don't want to press charges the police are basically helpless. The city should enact an ordinance to grant police the ability to charge them and take them in. I also believe I would rather see a bigger emphasis put on the drugs in this town. Clean up the drugs and the drug element would be a huge step. Much more if a priority to me than the occasional fight between two drunken idiots. I also never thought you were a criminal. You are the one who has said that. The city wrongly lumped everyone living downtown into one group and said the wrong thing. Get over it. You won't get an apology. Willy never said you were living in the majestic illegally. What he said was that the fire dept official said he noticed some sleeping material inside the theater and asked what should be done. Willy replied do nothing. That's not turning his head. That's saying dont do anything because there is no wrongdoing. So was it creating a fire hazard that she was charged with? Was she given a chance to defend herself in a courtroom and then convicted and given a sentence? Did that sentence prevent her from continuing to break the law? How is it that you have so much information? Were you directly involved with the situation? What year was it? Was she officially declared mentally unstable by the City of Streator? Clearly the City can step in to protect the public, didn't they prove that at the Town & Country? If they wanted something different done with it other than the owner was doing, why didn't they buy it and do with it what they wanted? Did the City condemn the Plumb Hotel? Is she dead now? Does she have any family in the area? Was she affiliated with a local church? How did it come about that she owned the Hotel? I support you in handling local problems the way that you see fit, but when the problems hurt my family, I am going to stand up for what I believe is right. I do not believe for a second that our laws only allow for people to be charged with violence when the offenders agree to press charges. I have seen that they happen more than occasionally. Are the three charged with felony aggravated battery pressing charges against each other? I know I won't get an apology and I don't want one. It is not like an apology would change anything. I only want the City of Streator to start doing things differently. I could easily pull up Willy's quotes. He did say that he turned his head and that it was "obvious" to them that my family was sleeping there. He would not need to turn his head if they didn't believe there was a lack of wrong doing. In my opinion, he was using inside information to try to attack the character of my family once again. Vindictive attacks because I ask for better for our community.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Feb 1, 2015 12:13:00 GMT -6
Hey! I just thought of a USE for your building. You could rent out the rooftop ala the Wrigley Field rooftops and we could all watch the action that you say constantly takes place within eyesight of it. You could serve popcorn, perhaps get the grill going, (I love grilled chicken), put stadium seating in, think of it as your very own little majestic outdoor show palace. I see $$$. Jump on it! If you work through the night we might even be able to catch the gambling raid that is sure to take place because of the Super Bowl. Are you purposely editing what you quoted from me, Kyle, because you are afraid if you ran with my idea that under your tutelage it would be a failure and end up being just another footnote in the history of your building? So, rather than address it you are going to ignore it? I'll admit it's not aquaponics or a second hand store, but you have to work with the situation. Your building is in an area that you deem undesirable, dangerous and lacking of quality things for a good family to do. My suggestion is to adapt and cash in on it. When life hands you lemons, make vodka lemonade. (Put that on the menu, too. Very refreshing on a hot day.) Yes. I didn't quote that because I find it so very ridiculous. It is right up there with our Downtown START Promotions and Projects Team Leader's claim that the violence is acceptable here because it also happens in Naperville and allowing it in some way will get their type of high end shops here. So you think that we can make Streator be as successful as Wrigleyville by promoting the violence here as some type of sport? Well Kudos to you and your fellow cohorts at City Hall.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Feb 1, 2015 12:13:25 GMT -6
Anon, I agree with you in part. When he says it keeps good families away that's what I took from it. His reply that that wasn't what he was implying is exactly what he does to people on here. If you go to areas of town near the majestic you're not a good family. The proper thing to say if he didn't mean this would have been to say, "it keeps families away". Well, I thought my statement was clear, but please do allow me to explain. As you should know, there are many people here who do support the violence, as was shown by the recent poll. There are many people who do also participate in the violence here as shown by the numbers printed in the newspaper last year. There are even people here armed and willing to have shoot outs here. I do not consider the people who do support and participate in the violence to be good people. I do not feel that the problems that I talk about keep many of those people away from the area. I said "many" good people because I do think there are many that these problems do keep away. As you notice I didn't say "all" because I am confident that that is not the case at all. I do believe that many good people do also go to the area despite knowing that the problems do exist and being concerned about it. I hope that cleared it up for you and anonymous. I admit that when some people have made what I see as implications towards my family, I have asked questions as to if that was what they were implying. Many times they just do not respond back to explain their side of what they were actually saying. Case in point was anonymous' comment "sounds familiar". Isn't that implying that someone else does not follow the laws? Who was anonymous implying does not follow our laws was the question that I asked, but there was no explanation. Isn't it most likely that it was my family being referred to? If not, why not explain? Just like our City leaders, their supporters seem to make people out to be criminals when they are not. Vindictive attacks on people who ask for better for our community.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Feb 1, 2015 12:15:38 GMT -6
When he starts his familiar refrain "Are you implying..." we should all answer, "My statement was clear, obviously I wasn't implying those things." He likes to use our words in a matter that suits him, so we should do the same. He reads what he wants to read into things we all say. He has one agenda and one agenda only. Knockdown our town. Even when we do get new blood on the council he still can't see any progress. So why is he asking for new leaders? We have gotten new leaders. Even when situations are addressed that he has mentioned ad nauseam, it's not enough. It will never be enough until the city kowtows to him. Until a Kyle Mitchell Saves The Day is established and he is given the key to the city. Presumably, we as a community do not appreciate him and all he has bestowed upon us with his presence and investment. We need to pay for that slight and he is here on this forum to make sure we do. But, don't feel bad fellow Streatorites. It'll happen again in another city. If we were to create a (Insert current city's name) Online forum for the town where he currently is employed or living or whatever, eventually he would feel slighted by them and find his way to that forum, too. It would be just a matter of time. You may see it as only knocking down our community, but I see it as talking about the problems to try to get solutions. I don't like the direction our community has been heading for years and want things done differently. Very little has changed other than some faces from what I have seen. Has there been some policy change as to how businesses and those that they suspect to be guilty are dealt with? Willy made yet another public claim recently that my family was doing something that required head turning knowing that we were not given a chance to present our side of the situation. The last I heard from our Mayor about the perception that Streator was not inviting to business was him blaming business owners for it. I am asking for new leaders because I haven't seen the results that I want from the ones that are in office. I would like to hear about all of the candidates "visions" and opinions on the issues this election cycle, even the incumbents. You don't have to pay for anything. Feel free to skip this thread.
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