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Post by Kyle Mitchell on May 21, 2015 7:41:48 GMT -6
Because he still maintains his residence here. He is here frequently. He has said he works out of town a lot. Take the time to read and comprehend what he says. Well, this response could maybe fit dog's post too, but wasn't it a response to the post that Capncrunch deleted? Sharon was that you posting (or your husband Shaun)? I will continue to talk about what happens in Streator for as long as I want to, regardless of where I spend the majority of my time, or what your family thinks of us. My family has a lot invested in Streator, has worked hard here, and have always tried to give back to the community, not ask others for handouts. Don't you remember any of the things that my family did to try to help yours? I would think that you and your husband would have already just wanted to stop talking about my family, but I'll be here to continue responding. I do have a few other interesting things I could share about your family. Your husband isn't trying to raise another generation to think it is acceptable to abuse the system and collect disability when he can still work, is he?
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on May 21, 2015 7:43:48 GMT -6
Perhaps my family would want to come back to Streator someday if there is continued change and positive results created, obviously that will take considerable time. Do you think there will be anything left of the Majestic then? . I know you are a close family, but since you have property here and the rest of them are at different places, and have no desire to be here, why does that stop you from proceeding without them? Cant you go visit them on occasion, similar to what you do now? Are you currently all living under the same roof now, or even in the same town? It just seems strange that you are so family devoted and have such a positive mental attitude towards Streator, and your family seems less devoted to you and has a pessimistic attitudes towards Streator. Not saying that either of it is wrong, but it just seems strange. I am not sure the importance other than an emotional one, to having your family living back here with you, but would you ever consider trying to change their minds, or take on the Majestic project without their approval? Gee dog, you sure are doing an about face from your earlier strong suggestions that walking away from my investments here was the best thing for me. Yes dog, I know that life is too short. Those grandkids grow up too quickly, being around my family is very important to me. It is very nice having my main residence be so very close to them. There are a lot of people who wanted my family and I gone from Streator, for the most part, they have gotten their way. Don't you think that there really hasn't been enough change in Streator yet, for me to even try to justify to my family that they relocate back here? After my family saw years and years of uncontrolled street brawls and other negative bar incidents and the unfriendly to business attitude from City Hall, don't you think that maybe it would take more than just the talk of doing things differently and actually showing the results of it to even start to try to convince them? No, it seems that there are quite a few people in Streator who don't want the likes of my hard working family to be in Streator, so we won't be taking on any Majestic type of project. We do look forward to seeing more positive changes happening in the community in the future though.
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Post by dog on May 21, 2015 11:36:35 GMT -6
I know you are a close family, but since you have property here and the rest of them are at different places, and have no desire to be here, why does that stop you from proceeding without them? Cant you go visit them on occasion, similar to what you do now? Are you currently all living under the same roof now, or even in the same town? It just seems strange that you are so family devoted and have such a positive mental attitude towards Streator, and your family seems less devoted to you and has a pessimistic attitudes towards Streator. Not saying that either of it is wrong, but it just seems strange. I am not sure the importance other than an emotional one, to having your family living back here with you, but would you ever consider trying to change their minds, or take on the Majestic project without their approval? Gee dog, you sure are doing an about face from your earlier strong suggestions that walking away from my investments here was the best thing for me. I dont know if I would call it an about face or even a strong suggestion. I told you what thought based on what I saw, without knowing your personal situation and gave you an opinion. You came back and gave a few specifics and you thought that Streator could support a 2 screen theater. I personally dont agree with that, but if you think it is feasible, I thought you should. I dont understand why you think I am against you personally, I just dont share the same opinion as you on many things. If I was against you, would I have suggested you take the city to court, or suggest you stay in town and re-open the Majestic?
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on May 21, 2015 17:17:32 GMT -6
Gee dog, you sure are doing an about face from your earlier strong suggestions that walking away from my investments here was the best thing for me. I dont know if I would call it an about face or even a strong suggestion. I told you what thought based on what I saw, without knowing your personal situation and gave you an opinion. You came back and gave a few specifics and you thought that Streator could support a 2 screen theater. I personally dont agree with that, but if you think it is feasible, I thought you should. I dont understand why you think I am against you personally, I just dont share the same opinion as you on many things. If I was against you, would I have suggested you take the city to court, or suggest you stay in town and re-open the Majestic? Gee dog, isn't it a fine line between being against me personally and being against just about everything that I talk about? I know that you think their ridiculous snow removal ordinance is acceptable because you think it is too difficult for them to write a reasonable ordinance that businesses can actually afford to follow and you keep your lips so firmly attached to their back sides that you don't worry about them fining you, but I really don't see it as being any good for our community. Yes, you would probably suggest that I feed some attorneys by sinking a bunch of money into a battle that City Hall, using tax payer funds, can afford to keep dragging out for years and years, or that I sink a bunch more money into a family business to find out that the City will continue to allow people to just walk away from fighting and pulling their pants down in the streets with no consequences, if you were against me. You don't really expect me to think that you are trying to "help" me, do you? I really do hope that our City keeps changing and starts treating people better so that maybe they want to stay in Streator to invest in more businesses.
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Post by helencrump on May 21, 2015 21:59:57 GMT -6
I dont know if I would call it an about face or even a strong suggestion. I told you what thought based on what I saw, without knowing your personal situation and gave you an opinion. You came back and gave a few specifics and you thought that Streator could support a 2 screen theater. I personally dont agree with that, but if you think it is feasible, I thought you should. I dont understand why you think I am against you personally, I just dont share the same opinion as you on many things. If I was against you, would I have suggested you take the city to court, or suggest you stay in town and re-open the Majestic? Gee dog, isn't it a fine line between being against me personally and being against just about everything that I talk about? I know that you think their ridiculous snow removal ordinance is acceptable because you think it is too difficult for them to write a reasonable ordinance that businesses can actually afford to follow and you keep your lips so firmly attached to their back sides that you don't worry about them fining you, but I really don't see it as being any good for our community. Yes, you would probably suggest that I feed some attorneys by sinking a bunch of money into a battle that City Hall, using tax payer funds, can afford to keep dragging out for years and years, or that I sink a bunch more money into a family business to find out that the City will continue to allow people to just walk away from fighting and pulling their pants down in the streets with no consequences, if you were against me. You don't really expect me to think that you are trying to "help" me, do you? I really do hope that our City keeps changing and starts treating people better so that maybe they want to stay in Streator to invest in more businesses. Winter Sidewalk Ordinance in Effect by Flagstaff Business News on November 29, 2013 in Local News Snow Sidewalk With another weather system approaching Northern Arizona, city officials remind residents and business owners of snow-related city ordinances. Flagstaff received significant snow during last week, which was followed by complaints regarding snow-covered sidewalks. Ordinance updates this year include an important change regarding the issuance of a Notice of Violation. The ordinance calls for violators to be issued a Notice once per winter season. This change is important for pedestrian safety as non-compliant sidewalk violations will be addressed sooner than in previous years. This change can mean a business or resident is notified of unclear sidewalks and has 24 hours to bring the sidewalk into compliance. If the violation is not corrected, abatement, with administrative costs, will be assessed on the property. Using the previous ordinance, code compliance staff noted some businesses were waiting until the notice was served at each violation, before clearing the sidewalks. This often delayed the clearing of walks; especially important on major pedestrian routes and school areas. Sidewalk Enforcement 8-03-001-0004 REMOVAL OF SNOW AND/OR ICE: A. Deposit on Public Thoroughfares: It shall be unlawful for any person within the corporate limits of the City to remove or cause to be removed any snow or ice from any private property within said City and place or deposit same upon a public street, avenue, alley or sidewalk within the City. For purposes of this section, “person” means any person, firm, partnership, association, corporation, company or organization of any kind, public or private. B. Removal Required: Any person who owns, leases or occupies a building, lot or parcel of land bordering any public street, avenue, alley, square or other public place within the City shall at all times keep the sidewalks, curbs, and crosswalk ramps abutting upon or adjacent to the building, lot or parcel owned or occupied by them free and clear of any accumulation of snow, ice, or other obstruction. Any such person who fails to remove the snow, ice, or other obstruction from the sidewalks as promptly as reasonably possible, but in any event no later than twenty-four (24) hours after the accumulation of snow and ice, shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor. Such persons are jointly and severally liable for such responsibility, both criminally and administratively. »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»{ The removal of snow or ice shall mean free of snow or ice for the entire constructed width and length of the sidewalk, «««««««««««««««««««««« except those with a width exceeding five (5) feet, which must be cleared to a width of at least five (5) feet. »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»» The accumulation may be from****** any ******source, including *****snow plows, *******traffic, precipitation, or drifting. «««««« (Amended Ord. No. 2008-31, 11/04/2008) KYLE, is this why you left your theater in Flagstaff? Because they had what you deemed a ridiculous snow removal ordinance? According to theirs, they demand the walk be FREE OF snow or ice, be it from snow fall, drifts, or, yes, snow plows.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on May 22, 2015 5:58:40 GMT -6
KYLE, is this why you left your theater in Flagstaff? Because they had what you deemed a ridiculous snow removal ordinance? According to theirs, they demand the walk be FREE OF snow or ice, be it from snow fall, drifts, or, yes, snow plows. Gee helen, haven't you been paying attention? dog already posted Flagstaff's reasonable ordinance months ago. The reasons that I left Flagstaff are basically that retail space there is so valuable and in demand that the mall wanted my theatre for an expansion to their food court and wanted $1,000,000.00/year to rent the dirt to build my own theatre building on, along with having Katie, Tim, his local family and friends practically begging my family to move to Streator and invest a lot of money and hard work into opening the Majestic. I would welcome a snow removal ordinance here similar to Flagstaff's, if our City leaders aren't smart enough to write one of their own that even better serves business owners and the public in Streator. Requiring only five feet of the sidewalk be cleared would allow space for many business owners here to pile the snow with just a shovel and would not require the huge expense of hiring heavy equipment, dump trucks, and a lot of detail labor to "remove" "all" of the snow form the sidewalk. Where the sidewalk is narrower though, I would worry about the hardships placed on the struggling businesses here. Have you ever been to Flagstaff's downtown? You would not see many vacant storefronts there at all. Flagstaff has a very limited amount of commercial property and it is very much in demand. Flagstaff is a much, much different place than Streator. Perhaps the City there feels that businesses can afford to have more requirements put on them, but they still don't require businesses to "remove" "all" of the snow from the sidewalks in Flagstaff. I would think that our City leaders would have taken into account the recommendations from businesses (that the City asked for), but the City of Streator chose the ridiculous wording of their ordinance that puts huge expenses on the struggling businesses in our already overly vacant downtown, and I have seen it do absolutely nothing to provide a clear path for shoppers here. Since they have not even been enforcing their huge expense to adhere to ordinance on those who do not bother to shovel at all, do you somehow see their ordinance as a benefit to you? It makes me wonder who they are writing these laws to benefit. Who at City Hall thought it was a good idea to put such huge expenses or the threat of daily fines on businesses here? Doesn't it make it obvious that they are not running a government that they expect to be for the people? I do notice that I seem to have been the only one asking for the change and hope that they do make it happen soon and just stop writing such ridiculous, irresponsible, overly restrictive laws, but that is just my insignificant opinion.
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Post by helencrump on May 22, 2015 8:05:42 GMT -6
Streators does allow discretion:
From Streator ordinance: Streator has the strip of brick, along the curb, where the planters and benches are located, that is not in the walkway. Simple paths to the curb, and parking spots would solve your problem.
The amendment also would prohibit business owners from throwing snow into the street. The business owners must either remove the snow from the front of the store or move it to the edge of the curb line but not into the street.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on May 22, 2015 10:31:35 GMT -6
Streators does allow discretion: From Streator ordinance: Streator has the strip of brick, along the curb, where the planters and benches are located, that is not in the walkway. Simple paths to the curb, and parking spots would solve your problem. The amendment also would prohibit business owners from throwing snow into the street. The business owners must either remove the snow from the front of the store or move it to the edge of the curb line but not into the street. Gee helen, are you already abandoning your claim that Flagstaff has as strict of an ordinance as Streator to make some other false claim? If there were any ordinance that states any of what you say (other than throwing snow into the street), why don't you provide the section numbers so we can read it for ourselves? I have seen no ordinance that designates any strip of brick as not being part of the sidewalk or that allows snow on "the edge of the curb line", or says that "simple paths to the curb" would have solved any problem. I have documentation from the City of Streator and their engineering firm that does refer to the area from the backside of the curb as being sidewalk, making it illegal to have any snow placed there. The City of Streator does not have discretion. They have a building inspector who comes out threatening people with fines for not getting a permit for a four foot fence, even though a four foot fence does not even require a permit. The couldn't find any discretion to handle the individual complaints about downtown residents instead of very publicly declaring business owners who were not, illegal, could they? Go pedal your made up BS someplace else, I'm not buying it here. Their ordinance is so absolutely ridiculous that they don't even bother trying to enforce it, the only thing that it accomplishes is to highlight their unfriendly to business attitude.
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Post by dog on May 22, 2015 10:44:18 GMT -6
I am willing to bet you will find some fault with me for suggesting this, but with the holiday weekend and people in the downtown area for the festivities, if you were in town, wouldn't it be a good idea to open Flips for at least part of the weekend?
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Post by helencrump on May 22, 2015 10:48:49 GMT -6
Gee Kyle, i That from here.. Of course, you can't wrap your head around the fact that Flagstaff "free of" and Streators "all" have the same meaning.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on May 22, 2015 11:06:37 GMT -6
I am willing to bet you will find some fault with me for suggesting this, but with the holiday weekend and people in the downtown area for the festivities, if you were in town, wouldn't it be a good idea to open Flips for at least part of the weekend? Flips will be open from 10am to 5pm Mondays through Saturdays starting Memorial Day.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on May 22, 2015 11:11:16 GMT -6
Gee Kyle, i That from here.. Of course, you can't wrap your head around the fact that Flagstaff "free of" and Streators "all" have the same meaning. Can you wrap your head around Flagstaff excluding any sidewalk outside of five feet in width? If Streator had any provision like that, many business owners would be able to afford to adhere to the ordinance using just a shovel and I wouldn't even be complaining. Keep grasping at your straws, but in my opinion it is a ridiculous ordinance that they need to change if they don't want to project an unfriendly to business perception.
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Post by dog on May 22, 2015 11:31:53 GMT -6
I am willing to bet you will find some fault with me for suggesting this, but with the holiday weekend and people in the downtown area for the festivities, if you were in town, wouldn't it be a good idea to open Flips for at least part of the weekend? Flips will be open from 10am to 5pm Mondays through Saturdays starting Memorial Day. That's good to hear. Good luck.
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Post by Anonymous on May 22, 2015 12:53:57 GMT -6
I am willing to bet you will find some fault with me for suggesting this, but with the holiday weekend and people in the downtown area for the festivities, if you were in town, wouldn't it be a good idea to open Flips for at least part of the weekend? Flips will be open from 10am to 5pm Mondays through Saturdays starting Memorial Day. So, did you sell just the business or the business/building? From The Times - Flips Exchange establishes hours Flips Exchange, a consignment shop at 324 E. Main St., Streator, will be open 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. Mondays through Saturdays beginning Monday, May 25. The store has had limited, sporadic hours since last fall. The business will be under the new ownership of Kathy Mose, but existing in-store credit will be honored.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on May 22, 2015 15:52:22 GMT -6
Flips will be open from 10am to 5pm Mondays through Saturdays starting Memorial Day. So, did you sell just the business or the business/building? From The Times - Flips Exchange establishes hours Flips Exchange, a consignment shop at 324 E. Main St., Streator, will be open 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. Mondays through Saturdays beginning Monday, May 25. The store has had limited, sporadic hours since last fall. The business will be under the new ownership of Kathy Mose, but existing in-store credit will be honored. Why? Do you think it is any of your business or that it somehow matters? Will you and your overly restrictive, selective enforcement friends at City Hall not worry about how much snow is on the sidewalks if I no longer own the building? It was never about merchandise being displayed outside, was it? It was about who it was and trying to control the talk of problems that should be corrected within the City, as if we are like some third world country without rights, where people have to pay a steep price for voicing their opinions about their government. I don't think I was ever asking for anything bad for our community, but some people seem to really be against any positive change here.
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