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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Nov 4, 2013 17:59:02 GMT -6
The property on Oakley still has mold and mildew issues and until those problems are taken care of I would assume it will remain empty. ALM used the western part of the building for storage space and was not affected by the mold. As far as Bill Phelan having an opinion on how much it would take to abate the asbestos, he's entitled to his opinion. What does he base his opinion on. The city engineer gave an opinion of $20K to do the abatement. I believe Mr. Palm in his assessment, and when all is said and done Oakley Avenue will be ready for use. An empty building with mold and no use, not providing tax revenue and they take more property off the tax rolls. Meanwhile they spend money on a fountain, but can't provide enough Police resources to even take an eyewitness statement when someone gets mugged. It just doesn't make sense to me. There was no mention of $20,000 at the council meeting, you mentioning that number here was the first I heard of it. Using prevailing wage, I don't think you get too much asbestos removed for $20,000. How many buildings are on that site? Councilman Phelan didn't give his opinion as to how much it would cost or what he would have based it on. He only voiced concern that the $50,000 might not be enough. I find it strange that no one spoke up then to let the public know otherwise. It doesn't seem like he would have voiced concern if he were already told that $20,000 would cover it, but I don't know what he was told. So will they just let the property sit and deteriorate like their other properties, while they force other building owners to jump through their hoops to keep from being fined out of them?
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Post by rukidding (towns local troll) on Nov 4, 2013 18:59:38 GMT -6
The property on Oakley still has mold and mildew issues and until those problems are taken care of I would assume it will remain empty. ALM used the western part of the building for storage space and was not affected by the mold. As far as Bill Phelan having an opinion on how much it would take to abate the asbestos, he's entitled to his opinion. What does he base his opinion on. The city engineer gave an opinion of $20K to do the abatement. I believe Mr. Palm in his assessment, and when all is said and done Oakley Avenue will be ready for use. Now that I have Your ATTENTION Willy. Would You care to answer MY question? My post was to clarify your inaccurate post. The council doesn't have an obligation to tell anyone exactly what they may be thinking in regards to the property. As I said, it isn't a done deal and I don't care what you may quote from the newspaper. But your credibility is on the line each and every time you misstate something as fact. Why not just wait and see and then if you don't agree with a decision, make your comments, that's your right. HOLD THE PHONES.10/16/2013, 10:14 pm Streator City Council Wednesday approved the gift and acceptance of the property of the former Tuscarora Plastics at 702 S. Vermillion St. to the city Are YOU saying the Paper is WRONG in what They said about The City Council "accepting" AND approving THIS Gift? If SO, then We will be SEEING a retraction in the Paper CORRECT?
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Post by dive61364 on Nov 4, 2013 19:54:26 GMT -6
I have been involved in a few projects concerning asbestos removal and it can be very expensive. The cost for asbestos removal may be as much as $500 or more for a small amount of asbestos ceiling removal or to remove insulation around a 10-foot section of pipe.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Nov 4, 2013 20:40:49 GMT -6
I took an asbestos class to be able to install cabinets on walls that had traces of it in the drywall mud that the screws might go through behind the cabinets.
The things we had to do to comply made the job take at least twice as long, even though it didn't seem like it was much of a hazard.
Meanwhile, they still use asbestos in brake pads, clutches, and other products.
I think it is funny to see old ads claiming the life-saving safety factor of it.
The ad for the re-opening of the Majestic a couple years after it was built touted their asbestos.
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Post by cityslicker on Nov 5, 2013 6:22:08 GMT -6
The ex-council puppet member, will always be a protector of the city council. What would change, if an item is voted on and passed? It would be too late to change the outcome, after he fact. He must think, silence is golden and the citizens are "sheople". Maybe he should sit back and enjoy the taxpayer funded retirement, that is breaking the taxpayer's accounts.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2013 6:52:06 GMT -6
When are u all going to realize as long as we have the same people in the council we will always have the same problems. They are all yes people dont step on my toes or we will get u out. Just wonder how long it will take to get mold and asbestos out of these buildings. (sure with all emptys there are more) A lot of these house have mold (Good breathing)
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Post by rukidding (towns local troll) on Nov 5, 2013 7:16:21 GMT -6
When are u all going to realize as long as we have the same people in the council we will always have the same problems. They are all yes people dont step on my toes or we will get u out. Just wonder how long it will take to get mold and asbestos out of these buildings. (sure with all emptys there are more) A lot of these house have mold (Good breathing) Maybe Ole Willy Boy is checking out all these empty and GIFTED Buildings Streator has acquired ? Could be the reason He HASN'T answered MY QUESTION.
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Post by rukidding (towns local troll) on Nov 5, 2013 10:05:44 GMT -6
When are u all going to realize as long as we have the same people in the council we will always have the same problems. They are all yes people dont step on my toes or we will get u out. Just wonder how long it will take to get mold and asbestos out of these buildings. (sure with all emptys there are more) A lot of these house have mold (Good breathing) Maybe Ole Willy Boy is checking out all these empty and GIFTED Buildings Streator has acquired ? Could be the reason He HASN'T answered MY QUESTION. BumpedI'd like MY question answered by Willy. Didn't want it to be lost down the Page. The property on Oakley still has mold and mildew issues and until those problems are taken care of I would assume it will remain empty. ALM used the western part of the building for storage space and was not affected by the mold. As far as Bill Phelan having an opinion on how much it would take to abate the asbestos, he's entitled to his opinion. What does he base his opinion on. The city engineer gave an opinion of $20K to do the abatement. I believe Mr. Palm in his assessment, and when all is said and done Oakley Avenue will be ready for use. Now that I have Your ATTENTION Willy. Would You care to answer MY question? HOLD THE PHONES.10/16/2013, 10:14 pm Streator City Council Wednesday approved the gift and acceptance of the property of the former Tuscarora Plastics at 702 S. Vermillion St. to the city Are YOU saying the Paper is WRONG in what They said about The City Council "accepting" AND approving THIS Gift? If SO, then We will be SEEING a retraction in the Paper CORRECT?
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Post by dragonfly on Nov 5, 2013 12:14:00 GMT -6
All I hear is the sound of crickets. Maybe he's in a secret meeting that isn't for public knowledge. I guess the council forgets who pays for their high salaries. I'd still like to ask why the "Streator oods" sign is sill up? Maybe he can answer this too.
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Post by rukidding (towns local troll) on Nov 5, 2013 12:50:47 GMT -6
Willy are You hiding from Us AGAIN?
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Post by chevypower on Nov 6, 2013 0:26:55 GMT -6
lol too funny troll
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Post by cityslicker on Nov 6, 2013 6:09:07 GMT -6
The mayor has not given ole silly willy permission to speak. Or is he still a mouthpiece for the city Mis-manager? Who needs b*lls at his age?
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Post by 1NAMillion on Nov 6, 2013 6:13:52 GMT -6
So the city owns the old Tuscarora/Canning factory? It's a shame we had the factory and no more. I am sure it is a long shot, but there is a movement towards locally grown/sustainable/organic foods. IF that place still has any infrastructure left to resuscitate it as a canning factory, that would be so cool. I am sure it is not possible/feasible/profitable....just dreaming of how things used to be and fantasizing about how they could be again. i thought Tuscarora made styrofoam products?
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Nov 6, 2013 8:20:17 GMT -6
I remember when Willy started his account here.
It was to call the Aquaponics project a fish farm, which he did end up retracting.
I asked him to provide the City's justification for industrial zoning.
He called the area's industry expert, who I had already met a couple of times, visited a couple of his facilities, had considered hiring as a consultant, etc., and provided information that I already had, like IDNR license requirements, then said he was done talking about it, without providing any justification for the local restriction.
Attack someone, provide the information you want, ignore questions from others, and then disappear from the conversation. Willy, are you related to Oldtimer?
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Post by oldtimer on Nov 6, 2013 14:49:21 GMT -6
The property on Oakley still has mold and mildew issues and until those problems are taken care of I would assume it will remain empty. ALM used the western part of the building for storage space and was not affected by the mold. As far as Bill Phelan having an opinion on how much it would take to abate the asbestos, he's entitled to his opinion. What does he base his opinion on. The city engineer gave an opinion of $20K to do the abatement. I believe Mr. Palm in his assessment, and when all is said and done Oakley Avenue will be ready for use. An empty building with mold and no use, not providing tax revenue and they take more property off the tax rolls. Meanwhile they spend money on a fountain, but can't provide enough Police resources to even take an eyewitness statement when someone gets mugged. It just doesn't make sense to me. There was no mention of $20,000 at the council meeting, you mentioning that number here was the first I heard of it. Using prevailing wage, I don't think you get too much asbestos removed for $20,000. How many buildings are on that site? Councilman Phelan didn't give his opinion as to how much it would cost or what he would have based it on. He only voiced concern that the $50,000 might not be enough. I find it strange that no one spoke up then to let the public know otherwise. It doesn't seem like he would have voiced concern if he were already told that $20,000 would cover it, but I don't know what he was told. So will they just let the property sit and deteriorate like their other properties, while they force other building owners to jump through their hoops to keep from being fined out of them? I wonder if the other businesses on Main Street know that you are speaking for them? I'm not so sure the other business owners would want you to say that the city is making them jump through hoops to keep from being fined! Nothing like putting other business owners on Main Street in the middle of your little hissy fits with the city.
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