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Post by rocket on Oct 14, 2013 6:30:03 GMT -6
Better put on your glasses and put in your hearing aid greek. Cause you seemed to overlooked that I do work just like everyone else,pay income tax every year to the irs,and pay property taxes just like every home owner does. So I say I too am paying into this system to use.
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Post by oldtimer on Oct 14, 2013 9:11:31 GMT -6
What will happen if they stop giving food stamps ,would be a riot to start and people kicking in doors to steal food even kill to get it. Could even start to see cannibalism in this country,people eating other people. Turns out if you do a service for someone they give you this green colored paper and when you go to buy food they just trade it for this green paper everytime..... have never had a problem with that. As for rockets comment if you have the capability of kicking in a door or hunting and eating another human how come they cant get a job? Most people on food stamps would sit on there couches and die if they didnt get stuff for free so i wouldnt really worry about being eaten. You're exactly right, the actual truth. If the government stopped giving free stuff away there would be many who would just die. They wouldn't know what the next step would be. The government has conditioned these people. It's not good! The more we rely on our government the more we should be concerned. Nip it in the butt right now. We would actually be doing those on the free stuff list a favor!
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Post by rocket on Oct 14, 2013 9:26:24 GMT -6
Ot then you don't mind your family dying off if they were on this? America is suppose to be a place that people unite and care for one another. Not say fvck you and die ba$tard.
That is really cold hearted.
No one put a gun to your head and say get out and work and get greedy and rich. So just because you chose to work,doesn't mean that everyone that is on the system are lazy asses. Some people cannot get out and work. And those people are the less fortunate ones.
How about companies STOP DISCRIMINATING people who are disabled that are trying to get a job to be self independent and get off the system.
I am one of those people trying to land a good paying job that I can get off the system so I can be able to pay my bills with my own earned money and financially independent.
There are better jobs out there than what I am doing now for work with low wage,that I cannot live on without the gov't help to subsidize my income.
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Post by oldtimer on Oct 14, 2013 9:30:12 GMT -6
Ot then you don't mind your family dying off if they were on this? America is suppose to be a place that people unite and care for one another. Not say fvck you and die ba$tard. That is really cold hearted. No one put a gun to your head and say get out and work and get greedy and rich. So just because you chose to work,doesn't mean that everyone that is on the system are lazy asses. Some people cannot get out and work. And those people are the less fortunate ones. How about companies STOP DISCRIMINATING people who are disabled that are trying to get a job to be self independent and get off the system. I am one of those people trying to land a good paying job that I can get off the system so I can be able to pay my bills with my own earned money and financially independent. There are better jobs out there than what I am doing now for work with low wage,that I cannot live on without the gov't help to subsidize my income. I always remember America as being "The Land of the Free" not "The Land of the Subsidized". The Land of the Free means there are great opportunities out there for everyone. Find an opportunity and embrace it. I don't care what you do in life, just don't sit on your ass! If you have a job that doesn't pay enough, then get a second job. Maybe get two part time jobs. Don't sit on your butt and say "whoa is me". What more can I do for you for goodness sake? I'm working my butt off every day, my neighbors are doing it too, millions and millions of people are doing it, why can't those sitting on their butts do the same?
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Post by rocket on Oct 14, 2013 9:41:09 GMT -6
I wouldn't worry about it anyway. Come Thursday we are all done for. The U.S. for the 1st time in history will default on there ability to pay their bills. And especially these people you speak of will die ,then you won't have to worry about dead beats anymore. I won't be surprised if that protest at the white house going on doesn't evolve into a revolution and spread across the country.
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Post by oldtimer on Oct 14, 2013 13:03:40 GMT -6
I wouldn't worry about it anyway. Come Thursday we are all done for. The U.S. for the 1st time in history will default on there ability to pay their bills. And especially these people you speak of will die ,then you won't have to worry about dead beats anymore. I won't be surprised if that protest at the white house going on doesn't evolve into a revolution and spread across the country. Leave it to Obama to be the first president to lead us down the path where we can't pay our bills. And, to think this pinhead is on his second term!
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Post by cityslicker on Oct 14, 2013 13:20:15 GMT -6
This 50% + , population of deadbeats, is what got Barry Hussein Obama elected. These people, for the most part, are too lazy and are breeding like rats, to even look for a job. Laziness and empowerment are the key words.
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Post by oldtimer on Oct 14, 2013 13:26:23 GMT -6
This Obamacare is a nice little tool that Obama put together to help the Democratic Party down the road! All the lazy folks will be back to vote to help the next Democratic Presidential candidate get elected so the gravy train will continue. It's a brilliant move by the democrats and all the lazy folks play right into their hands.
It's as simple as that!
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Post by evaryman on Oct 14, 2013 13:34:55 GMT -6
So another useless, well unless you count all the stinking taxes we pay, old person is about to throw in 2 cents worth for the discussion. (Imagine Sophia, from the Golden Girls, just 3 times as much girth:) Allow me to say that when my Father realized that he was not long for this earth, he made it his business to get my Mother back as close to her family as he possibly could. During the last 2 years of his life, after having given up his job, and selling everything he could, to return us to our maternal roots, he began doing EVERYTHING in his power to provide for us. Honestly he was a jack of all trades, and although he was clearly a sick man, (the VA hospital had little hope of his ever regaining his health), he still worked, all day everyday. The Welfare Lady came to visit us after the first 3 months of us being in the new community, and I sat in the room and listened to the entire interview. She listed every penny they had between them, then she set about devising a plan to help for a limited time, I don't know maybe a quarter of the year, but they were expected to be off the system, sooner not later. What we got from the system at that time, was rather interesting to a 6 year old who'd grown up in the heart of NYC. A fat box of powered milk, a rectangle of American cheese, a box of powdered eggs, a bag of corn meal and an bag of flour was what we recevied. I believe we received it during the original 3 months (by received, we had to find a way to get to the distribution spot monthly, and we had no vehicle) and then as my Mother had found a CNA position, we stopped receiving it after the initial 3 month period. Had they owned a vehicle they would have been expected to sell it, or show GOOD reason why they needed to keep it, and still need support. The idea of owning a home would have been absurd, if the community is needing to supplement your life, then you don't have the income to pay for upkeep, taxes and insurance on a home, they would have been expected to sell it, to care for our family. In 1979, just after having our second baby, my husband was laid off from a job that paid $13. an hour. He could have stayed on unemployment comp for, I believe it was 9 weeks in an attempt to secure a job paying comparably, but after about 3 weeks he found a job, throwing 50# bags of fertilizer onto train cars for $5. an hour and took it!!! His sister had marital problems and she and our 2 year old niece moved in with us. The 6 of us survived on that money, and my sister in law learned that there are a good 3 if not 5 meals that can be had from one fat old chicken, if used in the "proper" way. He, by the way, worked that job for almost a year before a better position opened up. For those who don't know we were in a very rough economic slump during that time. I say all of this because I do understand hard times, and have had cardboard in my shoes many times, and safety pins in my underwear because the elastic was defunct. I've let out hems and taken in seams in all of our clothes, when we finally got a sewing machine when I was 15 I made clothes for my family on a regular basis. I began working in shops in our town, off the books, when I was 12, as I was working with my Mother. At 14 it was legal for me to work. Then, I was still paid what I had been paid, when I was 12, which was $5. 00 a day. I got to work at 8:30 a.m., had an hour lunch and got off at 6:00 p.m. My first job when I was 8,was shelling bags and bags of pecans, and sprinkling clothes, waiting to be pressed, and hanging the pressed clothes, my Mother ironed for other people. As an adult I wouldn't have thought it proper for us to have cable, or to even waste the electricity on t.v. watching, if we'd been asking for assistance. We played board games for entertainment. My husband supplemented the income from the factory by shoveling walks for neighbors. When my son wanted Michael Jordan red and black tennis shoes, I encouraged him to get them, by working and saving up HIS money, same with his special bicycle he wanted and GOT. I believe that dependence on ourselves and our Creator is ultimately important for people to learn. Not the cushy dependence that has grown up in our country upon the government. Such dependence has robbed people of their personal pride and sense of achievement, and only those people can decide to take back their responsibility for their selves and their children. I can attest to the truth of children being very aware of the attitudes and pride of their parents. My son and his wife work all they can to provide for their family, and pay the rediculous taxes we are all expected to pay, in this govenment gone wild with spending other peoples hard earned cash. And altough I hate seeing them exhausted 90% of the time, I'm PROUD of them and their work ethics and the attitudes they have taught my Grandchildren.
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Post by rocket on Oct 14, 2013 13:55:16 GMT -6
I think everyone should have gotten together in obamas 1st term and recalled them all (congress) when they passed obamacare. And fought to impeach Obama. These Sob's have got to go.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2013 14:00:34 GMT -6
So another useless, well unless you count all the stinking taxes we pay, old person is about to throw in 2 cents worth for the discussion. (Imagine Sophia, from the Golden Girls, just 3 times as much girth:) Allow me to say that when my Father realized that he was not long for this earth, he made it his business to get my Mother back as close to her family as he possibly could. During the last 2 years of his life, after having given up his job, and selling everything he could, to return us to our maternal roots, he began doing EVERYTHING in his power to provide for us. Honestly he was a jack of all trades, and although he was clearly a sick man, (the VA hospital had little hope of his ever regaining his health), he still worked, all day everyday. The Welfare Lady came to visit us after the first 3 months of us being in the new community, and I sat in the room and listened to the entire interview. She listed every penny they had between them, then she set about devising a plan to help for a limited time, I don't know maybe a quarter of the year, but they were expected to be off the system, sooner not later. What we got from the system at that time, was rather interesting to a 6 year old who'd grown up in the heart of NYC. A fat box of powered milk, a rectangle of American cheese, a box of powdered eggs, a bag of corn meal and an bag of flour was what we recevied. I believe we received it during the original 3 months (by received, we had to find a way to get to the distribution spot monthly, and we had no vehicle) and then as my Mother had found a CNA position, we stopped receiving it after the initial 3 month period. Had they owned a vehicle they would have been expected to sell it, or show GOOD reason why they needed to keep it, and still need support. The idea of owning a home would have been absurd, if the community is needing to supplement your life, then you don't have the income to pay for upkeep, taxes and insurance on a home, they would have been expected to sell it, to care for our family. In 1979, just after having our second baby, my husband was laid off from a job that paid $13. an hour. He could have stayed on unemployment comp for, I believe it was 9 weeks in an attempt to secure a job paying comparably, but after about 3 weeks he found a job, throwing 50# bags of fertilizer onto train cars for $5. an hour and took it!!! His sister had marital problems and she and our 2 year old niece moved in with us. The 6 of us survived on that money, and my sister in law learned that there are a good 3 if not 5 meals that can be had from one fat old chicken, if used in the "proper" way. He, by the way, worked that job for almost a year before a better position opened up. For those who don't know we were in a very rough economic slump during that time. I say all of this because I do understand hard times, and have had cardboard in my shoes many times, and safety pins in my underwear because the elastic was defunct. I've let out hems and taken in seams in all of our clothes, when we finally got a sewing machine when I was 15 I made clothes for my family on a regular basis. I began working in shops in our town, off the books, when I was 12, as I was working with my Mother. At 14 it was legal for me to work. Then, I was still paid what I had been paid, when I was 12, which was $5. 00 a day. I got to work at 8:30 a.m., had an hour lunch and got off at 6:00 p.m. My first job when I was 8,was shelling bags and bags of pecans, and sprinkling clothes, waiting to be pressed, and hanging the pressed clothes, my Mother ironed for other people. As an adult I wouldn't have thought it proper for us to have cable, or to even waste the electricity on t.v. watching, if we'd been asking for assistance. We played board games for entertainment. My husband supplemented the income from the factory by shoveling walks for neighbors. When my son wanted Michael Jordan red and black tennis shoes, I encouraged him to get them, by working and saving up HIS money, same with his special bicycle he wanted and GOT. I believe that dependence on ourselves and our Creator is ultimately important for people to learn. Not the cushy dependence that has grown up in our country upon the government. Such dependence has robbed people of their personal pride and sense of achievement, and only those people can decide to take back their responsibility for their selves and their children. I can attest to the truth of children being very aware of the attitudes and pride of their parents. My son and his wife work all they can to provide for their family, and pay the rediculous taxes we are all expected to pay, in this govenment gone wild with spending other peoples hard earned cash. And altough I hate seeing them exhausted 90% of the time, I'm PROUD of them and their work ethics and the attitudes they have taught my Grandchildren. What a fabulous post...I just can't thank you enough for taking the time to share your life's story with us. I am touched deeply by it and honored to be able to read it.
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Post by rocket on Oct 14, 2013 14:01:29 GMT -6
Saw on 9 news at 12pm today that they reported that doctors and hospitals are now requiring payment up front before being seen. Going to be a lot of life threatening emergencies that these people will die in the er,cause they are not able to pay before they treat them.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2013 14:14:53 GMT -6
I wouldn't worry about it anyway. Come Thursday we are all done for. The U.S. for the 1st time in history will default on there ability to pay their bills. And especially these people you speak of will die ,then you won't have to worry about dead beats anymore. I won't be surprised if that protest at the white house going on doesn't evolve into a revolution and spread across the country. Maybe you should change your name to "candle." And while you're at it...do a little more reading about the subject of America defaulting...you'll be able to relax a bit.
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Post by oldtimer on Oct 14, 2013 15:04:24 GMT -6
So another useless, well unless you count all the stinking taxes we pay, old person is about to throw in 2 cents worth for the discussion. (Imagine Sophia, from the Golden Girls, just 3 times as much girth:) Allow me to say that when my Father realized that he was not long for this earth, he made it his business to get my Mother back as close to her family as he possibly could. During the last 2 years of his life, after having given up his job, and selling everything he could, to return us to our maternal roots, he began doing EVERYTHING in his power to provide for us. Honestly he was a jack of all trades, and although he was clearly a sick man, (the VA hospital had little hope of his ever regaining his health), he still worked, all day everyday. The Welfare Lady came to visit us after the first 3 months of us being in the new community, and I sat in the room and listened to the entire interview. She listed every penny they had between them, then she set about devising a plan to help for a limited time, I don't know maybe a quarter of the year, but they were expected to be off the system, sooner not later. What we got from the system at that time, was rather interesting to a 6 year old who'd grown up in the heart of NYC. A fat box of powered milk, a rectangle of American cheese, a box of powdered eggs, a bag of corn meal and an bag of flour was what we recevied. I believe we received it during the original 3 months (by received, we had to find a way to get to the distribution spot monthly, and we had no vehicle) and then as my Mother had found a CNA position, we stopped receiving it after the initial 3 month period. Had they owned a vehicle they would have been expected to sell it, or show GOOD reason why they needed to keep it, and still need support. The idea of owning a home would have been absurd, if the community is needing to supplement your life, then you don't have the income to pay for upkeep, taxes and insurance on a home, they would have been expected to sell it, to care for our family. In 1979, just after having our second baby, my husband was laid off from a job that paid $13. an hour. He could have stayed on unemployment comp for, I believe it was 9 weeks in an attempt to secure a job paying comparably, but after about 3 weeks he found a job, throwing 50# bags of fertilizer onto train cars for $5. an hour and took it!!! His sister had marital problems and she and our 2 year old niece moved in with us. The 6 of us survived on that money, and my sister in law learned that there are a good 3 if not 5 meals that can be had from one fat old chicken, if used in the "proper" way. He, by the way, worked that job for almost a year before a better position opened up. For those who don't know we were in a very rough economic slump during that time. I say all of this because I do understand hard times, and have had cardboard in my shoes many times, and safety pins in my underwear because the elastic was defunct. I've let out hems and taken in seams in all of our clothes, when we finally got a sewing machine when I was 15 I made clothes for my family on a regular basis. I began working in shops in our town, off the books, when I was 12, as I was working with my Mother. At 14 it was legal for me to work. Then, I was still paid what I had been paid, when I was 12, which was $5. 00 a day. I got to work at 8:30 a.m., had an hour lunch and got off at 6:00 p.m. My first job when I was 8,was shelling bags and bags of pecans, and sprinkling clothes, waiting to be pressed, and hanging the pressed clothes, my Mother ironed for other people. As an adult I wouldn't have thought it proper for us to have cable, or to even waste the electricity on t.v. watching, if we'd been asking for assistance. We played board games for entertainment. My husband supplemented the income from the factory by shoveling walks for neighbors. When my son wanted Michael Jordan red and black tennis shoes, I encouraged him to get them, by working and saving up HIS money, same with his special bicycle he wanted and GOT. I believe that dependence on ourselves and our Creator is ultimately important for people to learn. Not the cushy dependence that has grown up in our country upon the government. Such dependence has robbed people of their personal pride and sense of achievement, and only those people can decide to take back their responsibility for their selves and their children. I can attest to the truth of children being very aware of the attitudes and pride of their parents. My son and his wife work all they can to provide for their family, and pay the rediculous taxes we are all expected to pay, in this govenment gone wild with spending other peoples hard earned cash. And altough I hate seeing them exhausted 90% of the time, I'm PROUD of them and their work ethics and the attitudes they have taught my Grandchildren. Great post! You set a great example for your children. One that will live on for generations!
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Oct 14, 2013 15:44:10 GMT -6
I don't need to "pay" for your Link Card, so you won't kick down my doors to "steal food, even kill to get it.". Right about now you might wish for those 30 round standard capacity magazines you so despise............... Somehow I don't think the mighty Greek followed Joe's advice about purchasing a double barrel shotgun to shoot into the air...... Oh yea, save your breath about the Second Amendment, they ain't following the laws anyway.
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