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Post by rbrtsnkvn on Sept 3, 2013 20:23:07 GMT -6
does anyone have information on home schooling ? or know where I can get any information. thanks
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Post by ~MnM~ on Sept 8, 2013 20:10:13 GMT -6
I have known many who have "home schooled" their children...BUT really I don't see how doing this did even benefit them, as I continually saw them outside playing as apposed to learning per grade what they needed and should have been learning. I know one family in particular who's mother did this with her 4 children, and the reason is that the oldest one was being bullied in public school. NOW, granted the bullying is not at all right, but I just feel that regardless these children needed socialization...no matter HOW hard that was with the given society of kids. I am not saying that home schooling can't be done...but......... what qualifies any parent to do this when there ARE qualified teachers who can, and do? JMHO....................... M
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Post by honestpolitician on Sept 8, 2013 20:38:59 GMT -6
try ron paul home school. google it. I've heard a lot of good things about it. Free for k-6. wouldn't hurt. I am against state or federally run schools. The people that run our state can't run a bingo game without screwing it up. Yet we let them run our schools? ?? M ,,,I hear what you say about letting teachers do it because of qualifications. But overall they are controlled by state rules and taught what the state wants them to learn. If I had young ones, they would be definatly home schooled.
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Post by greekgod on Sept 8, 2013 20:44:35 GMT -6
I have known many who have "home schooled" their children...BUT really I don't see how doing this did even benefit them, as I continually saw them outside playing as apposed to learning per grade what they needed and should have been learning. I know one family in particular who's mother did this with her 4 children, and the reason is that the oldest one was being bullied in public school. NOW, granted the bullying is not at all right, but I just feel that regardless these children needed socialization...no matter HOW hard that was with the given society of kids. I am not saying that home schooling can't be done...but......... what qualifies any parent to do this when there ARE qualified teachers who can, and do? JMHO....................... M M, Excellent points! Somehow, I believe if the parents simply prepared their child better when they entered school it would be more beneficial to the child than home schooling offers, and much easier. Can they recognize the letters of the alphabet when entering kindergarten, and have age appropriate skills whatever they may be.? If not the young student may feel very insecure. It might be easier for the parent(s) to attend parent-teacher conferences, or even arrange a meeting with the teacher or other administrators to determine how they could help their child do better in the classroom. Parents are always the ones who should care the most about their child's education. I was never shy about advocating for my child, but I found most (not all) teachers, administrators, and other public and private school employee's were very concerned about doing all they could to help my children succeed. g
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Post by chevypower on Sept 8, 2013 20:44:53 GMT -6
A lot of celebrity's also were home Schooled, I think it's a good thing (if) the parent/parents put the effort in. most Home Schooled kids are very sharp. However, the down side is the social skills are being at the minimum and that is very important to have good social skills.
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Post by ~MnM~ on Sept 8, 2013 20:59:06 GMT -6
I have known many who have "home schooled" their children...BUT really I don't see how doing this did even benefit them, as I continually saw them outside playing as apposed to learning per grade what they needed and should have been learning. I know one family in particular who's mother did this with her 4 children, and the reason is that the oldest one was being bullied in public school. NOW, granted the bullying is not at all right, but I just feel that regardless these children needed socialization...no matter HOW hard that was with the given society of kids. I am not saying that home schooling can't be done...but......... what qualifies any parent to do this when there ARE qualified teachers who can, and do? JMHO....................... M M, Excellent points! Somehow, I believe if the parents simply prepared their child better when they entered school it would be more beneficial to the child than home schooling offers, and much easier. Can they recognize the letters of the alphabet when entering kindergarten, and have age appropriate skills whatever they may be.? If not the young student may feel very insecure. It might be easier for the parent(s) to attend parent-teacher conferences, or even arrange a meeting with the teacher or other administrators to determine how they could help their child do better in the classroom. Parents are always the ones who should care the most about their child's education. I was never shy about advocating for my child, but I found most (not all) teachers, administrators, and other public and private school employee's were very concerned about doing all they could to help my children succeed. g Well G...the one family in particular who's mother did home school ALL 4...that ended up lasting one school year...I just wonder what those kids ended up losing educational-wise since they were always outside playing as apposed to when other kids in the neighborhood were in public school............... I truly don't know the oldest ones social / bullying problem......all I do know is that he showed NO respect to any of us adult neighbors and was a total smarta$$....so in my opinion HE particularly needed to be in school then! So........do the math, because he probably couldn't anyway....ironically now he is back in the public school system, as are all of his younger siblings too as well. Hopefully he got an attitude adjustment that year, because I would bet money he didn't learn much at home! M
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Post by seaturtle43 in hostile forum on Sept 9, 2013 5:03:39 GMT -6
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Post by no1inparticular on Sept 9, 2013 7:11:16 GMT -6
Go to K-12.com it's a wonderful program. I home-schooled my youngest son from 7th grade until graduation. The curriculum is far better than the whole "Common Core" set up kids are facing now, and it's far more conducive to meeting the needs of each students individual learning style.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2013 18:37:19 GMT -6
It would be interesting to have some stats and studies done on LaSalle county's "home-schooled" children vs. the county's public and parochial schools. That would include ALL the people who keep their children at home while claiming they are home-schooling them. Home-schooling done correctly has outstanding results for many kids.
I find it hard to believe that LaSalle county's residents meet a very high standard of educating their "home-schooled" kids. JMO (I'm sure SOME do, though.)
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Post by seaturtle43 in hostile forum on Sept 9, 2013 18:55:09 GMT -6
why the negativity toward home schooling? why do you assume some are not meeting educational standards? They do have to meet the same standards just as those in private and public schools do.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2013 3:07:44 GMT -6
why the negativity toward home schooling? why do you assume some are not meeting educational standards? They do have to meet the same standards just as those in private and public schools do. You're kidding, right? Doing homeschooling correctly is neither an easy or casual enterprise. You obviously express more faith in that being done by the citizens of our low SES (Socioeconomic status) county than I do.
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Post by no1inparticular on Sept 10, 2013 12:16:26 GMT -6
In my experience with home schooling my son had Accredited Teachers for each one of his classes, just like in public school...They met with us quarterly for conferences, called us regularly, and were available 24/7 via e-mail for both their students and the parents...There were regular gatherings for the students, and socialization was never an issue... Most, if not all, of his teachers were former public school employees who were far more dedicated than allowed in that realm...They saw how kids were being shoved through, how the administration lined their pockets while the staff went without, how the union wouldn't back them unless there was something in it for them, etc... Do I believe that this is the solution for everyone?...Not at all...But it's one that offers far more than what kids are getting in public schools...
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Post by evaryman on Sept 10, 2013 14:12:58 GMT -6
I have benefitted from an outstanding public school education. I received it in one of poorest states in our nation, at a time when the entire country laughed when our state was mentioned. Amenities were few, expectations were high, parents were at home/work struggling to keep food and a roof, so learning had to be done in school. We accepted reality rather than media created non reality.
Public education was lacking when we were ready to send our oldest to school, so we chose parochial. Although we were non-members of the parish and had to pay a painful amount, the standards, expectations and sense of morality were more in keeping with our's than what was supplied by our tax dollars. Public high school worked out well for that child.
Our second child also attended parochial school, but this one, although we had chosen a late beginning date, due to a late birthdate, was one of those kids that just naturally zoomed ahead. So, as we'd had a positive experience with the public high school with our first child, we chose that option again. The system was not good for this child, and we then began home schooling. The outcome was very good. We've known many home schooled children who did outstandingly well, just as our child did. I honestly don't know of any of those "socially inept" students that are supposedly the result of a home school experience.
I am surprised by the comments that have been made in this thread. I'll bet there are statistical studies concerning H.S.ing that have been conducted if you have the inclination to look into them. I think you would find that the number of advanced degrees held among the home schooled students in the Illinois Valley surprising to your assumptions about how well the H.S.'s have done educationally.
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Post by no1inparticular on Sept 10, 2013 14:53:22 GMT -6
I have benefitted from an outstanding public school education. I received it in one of poorest states in our nation, at a time when the entire country laughed when our state was mentioned. Amenities were few, expectations were high, parents were at home/work struggling to keep food and a roof, so learning had to be done in school. We accepted reality rather than media created non reality. Public education was lacking when we were ready to send our oldest to school, so we chose parochial. Although we were non-members of the parish and had to pay a painful amount, the standards, expectations and sense of morality were more in keeping with our's than what was supplied by our tax dollars. Public high school worked out well for that child. Our second child also attended parochial school, but this one, although we had chosen a late beginning date, due to a late birthdate, was one of those kids that just naturally zoomed ahead. So, as we'd had a positive experience with the public high school with our first child, we chose that option again. The system was not good for this child, and we then began home schooling. The outcome was very good. We've known many home schooled children who did outstandingly well, just as our child did. I honestly don't know of any of those "socially inept" students that are supposedly the result of a home school experience. I am surprised by the comments that have been made in this thread. I'll bet there are statistical studies concerning H.S.ing that have been conducted if you have the inclination to look into them. I think you would find that the number of advanced degrees held among the home schooled students in the Illinois Valley surprising to your assumptions about how well the H.S.'s have done educationally. Well said...I also encourage parents to check the statistics of those who participate in The Scripps Spelling Bee and other educational competitions, as the majority of those students are home schooled as well... abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=130988&page=1
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2013 16:28:16 GMT -6
And I believe that there are zero statistics concerning homeschool nightmares or an inclination or motivation at all for the proponents of homeschooling to either acknowledge or identify the homeschool failures. It's NOT an option or desire for the vast majority of households. Pick your poison and deal with the shortcomings and advantages of whatever schooling you wish - home, private, or public...there exists successes and failures for all types.
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