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Post by 71suzq on Jul 17, 2011 18:49:13 GMT -6
i'd like to believe the gr principle has been misquoted. maybe he said many things and only bits and pieces were cut out of his words, but it doesn't seem that way unfortunately. i'm not impressed with his judgement, i think it was poor communication at the wrong time to the wrong ppl (the community). my deepest thoughts and prayers to all the family and friends that have been effected by this horrible experience. i pray god has mercy on her soul that if she is proven to of done this, that this poor women must of been living an emotional nightmare. i feel sympathy for her regardless. our community needs to hold our families tighter, love our families more, and be thankful for every day our families are together.
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Post by starsbynight01 on Jul 17, 2011 19:08:18 GMT -6
Is there anyone taking donations yet?
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Post by starsbynight01 on Jul 17, 2011 19:10:20 GMT -6
maybe we can focus on helping
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Post by 2B4GIVN on Jul 17, 2011 22:47:37 GMT -6
stars
That's a Wonderful Idea.
Hopefully this will help take the focus off of why this tragedy happened and turn thoughts toward giving and helping where needed.
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Post by starsbynight01 on Jul 18, 2011 5:39:41 GMT -6
Yes..thats what I was thinking too...he not only lost his love ones (which is truly most important, I know)
but he also lost his home & all his belongings ..which I am sure he isnt really thinking about right now...
so maybe we can all help? is there anyone on here that is a relative?
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Post by usafmike76 on Jul 19, 2011 7:57:59 GMT -6
It is funny how so many around here were so quick to condemn and speak so harshly about Casey Anthony. But when it happens in our back yard, nothing but empathy for the Mom who killed not 1, but 2 of her kids. Lets stop making BS excuses for someone who undoubtedly had thoughts of harming herself and kids prior to this even tho she was sane enough to seek help for mental illness prior to committing this act. Lets stop trying to polish a turd and see this for what it really is.
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Post by starsbynight01 on Jul 19, 2011 8:12:32 GMT -6
It is funny how so many around here were so quick to condemn and speak so harshly about Casey Anthony. But when it happens in our back yard, nothing but empathy for the Mom who killed not 1, but 2 of her kids. Lets stop making BS excuses for someone who undoubtedly had thoughts of harming herself and kids prior to this even tho she was sane enough to seek help for mental illness prior to committing this act. Lets stop trying to polish a turd and see this for what it really is. Are you serious? This mother loved her children very much! maybe it had to do with meds she was on? and the meds counter reacted? maybe she forgot to take meds? why would she be planning supper? ..IF she had all this planned.. makes no sense.. I truly feel this happened beyond her control..
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Post by mom2many on Jul 19, 2011 9:49:51 GMT -6
Really quick comment because I told myself I was not commenting anymore..........compare her to Casey Anthony.......but she is not she the mother who did it is also gone.......if Casey Anthony had killed herself I would feel the same way for her loved ones............don't be cruel to the ones left behind
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Post by usafmike76 on Jul 19, 2011 9:52:03 GMT -6
It is funny how so many around here were so quick to condemn and speak so harshly about Casey Anthony. But when it happens in our back yard, nothing but empathy for the Mom who killed not 1, but 2 of her kids. Lets stop making BS excuses for someone who undoubtedly had thoughts of harming herself and kids prior to this even tho she was sane enough to seek help for mental illness prior to committing this act. Lets stop trying to polish a turd and see this for what it really is. Are you serious? This mother loved her children very much! maybe it had to do with meds she was on? and the meds counter reacted? maybe she forgot to take meds? why would she be planning supper? ..IF she had all this planned.. makes no sense.. I truly feel this happened beyond her control.. WOWDo you think casey anthony is all there? Is anyone mentally "OK" that chooses to kill their child...or murder anyone for that matter? Just where do you draw the line?
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Post by strivingangel91 on Jul 19, 2011 10:23:20 GMT -6
mywebtimes.com/archives/ottawa/display.php?id=436771Nothing will justify what she did. However I do have to agree with stars on the factor that we don't know if she was on any new medications at the time. Or what she was battling with. Like I mentioned on a previous thread anti depressants have a lot of different side effects. When you first get on an anti depressant you should be closely monitored. Yes the doctor could say that it could help improve this, but it could make what ever psychological issue she had worse. But of course none of us know the whole story to this. She was obviously dealing with something that she couldn't handle, something that made her feel like her and her children would be better off dead. It could of been a numerous list of things. It's also the factor that she had it planned out time wise for when she knew the husband was on his way home from work. We could bash the mother to every decree, and it would be rightfully so. However it won't change anything. She is dead, the kids are dead. We will never get our answers on what was going through her mind. We are beating a dead horse. However, we can take this horrible situation and keep in mind to watch other kids whenever we know their parents are going through mental illness so we don't see a repeat of this happening.
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Post by starsbynight01 on Jul 19, 2011 11:29:24 GMT -6
bad things do happen to good people...
heck..this or something similar could happen to anyone or anyones family or friends.
this could be happening to any of us right now..
heck we dont know what our future holds..
only god knows..
I cant tell you If my brain will be the same tomorrow or 10 yrs from now...
people die in many ways...
I dont know why it has to be so bad at times?
why cant we all go quietly in our sleep?
when it is our time to go..it is our time to go..
nothing you can do about it or HOW you go
I strongly believe our chart is made
I feel they are all victims..
Jen being a Victim of a deadly disease.. she prolly didnt even know her own children at the time...
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Post by usafmike76 on Jul 19, 2011 12:35:34 GMT -6
you can only call a complete stranger that lives in another state names and a murderer for PROBABLY, but not proven, to have killed her child. Only then is it acceptable.
Look. I highly doubt this was the first time she had thoughts of harming her children and herself. I admit I don't know this for a fact. But I believe that it wasn't the 1st time. And if she was sane enough to seek help, then she could have done the responsible thing and left to seek treatment and get these thoughts and illness under control. Because unless she had multiple personalities and didn't know she had those thoughts, she was sound enough to make the mature and adult decision to get right and away from the temptation of hurting anyone.
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Post by longarm on Jul 19, 2011 16:28:43 GMT -6
This is my first comment:
I am saddened by the news
A good mental health counselor, psychiatrist or psychologist would have asked her if she had any thoughts of hurting herself or anyone else. A Psychiatrist is an M.D. who also received training on mental health and can prescribe medication. A Psychologist or Clinical Technician can not prescribe medication. At a good mental health hospital, you will see both a psychiatrist and a counselor.
Your frequency of office visits should be determined based on the patient's response.
I don't know this case, but I do feel empathy and sorrow for everyone involved.
People who attempt suicide are asking for help. Also, the people who get help can lead a very successful and satisfying life.
My prayers are with everyone involved.
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Post by bryanm1982 on Jul 19, 2011 17:08:18 GMT -6
Luckily no emergency responders got killed or injured trying to save them thinking they could still be alive n
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Post by johnnie61364 on Jul 19, 2011 21:07:05 GMT -6
If she was under medical treatment for a mental illness and family was well aware or her illness, and if she was that bad......I just don't understand why family wouldn't have had "more" involvement. If she was at that breaking point, someone should have taken some kind of action at least for the kids' sake. I don't know what happened, no one ever will, but if she was in that bad of a mental state, you would think someone would have noticed and stepped in, at least to take care of the children. I don't mean for this to come across wrong......I have a family member who suffers from a "mental illness" and the correct actions were taken because she couldn't be left alone with her children....I'm just wondering if that shouldn't have been the case in this situation? Or maybe she hid things very well......who knows.
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