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Post by butterbean on Feb 10, 2023 15:16:37 GMT -6
ENOUGH, already! The end result is going to be WWIII if the escalation continues. The European NATO countries need to take care of business at this point in time. America has done enough...we've walked with "eyes wide open" into another sh*tshow!!!!
RUSSIA HAS JUST BEGUN ITS ANNIHILATION OF THE UKRAINIAN STATE. The propaganda about the weakening and inability of Russia to wage a long war and the supposed weakening of its intent to annex the Ukraine is total bullsh*t.
America has already spent more on the Ukrainian conflict than it
did in 20 years in Afghanistan!!! Look it up!! And we're told there's
no money for surveillance balloons on our southern border, but a
blank check for the Ukrainians!
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Feb 10, 2023 16:05:22 GMT -6
We will agree to disagree on this one. Forgetting the corruption, which has gone on LONG before any military action, and will continue long after it stops, the Ukrainian people face the loss of their Liberty and way of life. If that is not worth defending, then we have lost our way as a nation.
If you wish to straighten out anything, turn your anger towards our Governments officials who are profiting from that Ukrainian corruption.
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Post by butterbean on Feb 10, 2023 16:16:16 GMT -6
We will agree to disagree on this one. Forgetting the corruption, which has gone on LONG before any military action, and will continue long after it stops, the Ukrainian people face the loss of their Liberty and way of life. If that is not worth defending, then we have lost our way as a nation.If you wish to straighten out anything, turn your anger towards our Governments officials who are profiting from that Ukrainian corruption. Baloney. Let the European NATO members handle things from here on out, Snipe! Why not?
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Post by JimmyB2 on Feb 11, 2023 10:26:39 GMT -6
I agree with BB on this. At this point we have nothing to gain and everything to lose.
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Post by butterbean on Feb 12, 2023 13:21:34 GMT -6
I agree with BB on this. At this point we have nothing to gain and everything to lose. Thanks for the vote of confidence in my humble opinion. I should have added the fact that many black and brown nations could use America's military intervention, but don't get it. America has done enough for Ukraine. It's Europe's turn to step up, IMO
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Feb 13, 2023 8:11:56 GMT -6
We will agree to disagree on this one. Forgetting the corruption, which has gone on LONG before any military action, and will continue long after it stops, the Ukrainian people face the loss of their Liberty and way of life. If that is not worth defending, then we have lost our way as a nation.If you wish to straighten out anything, turn your anger towards our Governments officials who are profiting from that Ukrainian corruption. Baloney. Let the European NATO members handle things from here on out, Snipe! Why not?Because the Europeans are NOT conscious of individual Liberties. In my former employment, I dealt with hundreds of Europeans, to a T, not a one of them would say boo against their governments. If not us, who?
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Feb 13, 2023 8:13:46 GMT -6
I agree with BB on this. At this point we have nothing to gain and everything to lose. And you are being led to lose the last of our Humanity. Sorry, the mere pittance we are spending compared to the utter waste and corruption, yet that doesn't rate your ire?
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Post by JimmyB2 on Feb 13, 2023 13:14:13 GMT -6
I agree with BB on this. At this point we have nothing to gain and everything to lose. And you are being led to lose the last of our Humanity. Sorry, the mere pittance we are spending compared to the utter waste and corruption, yet that doesn't rate your ire? I do understand where you’re coming from it just have to wonder how long before either the Gulf of Tonkin problem or the killing of someone like Ferdinand happens and then all options are off the table..
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Feb 13, 2023 15:17:17 GMT -6
And you are being led to lose the last of our Humanity. Sorry, the mere pittance we are spending compared to the utter waste and corruption, yet that doesn't rate your ire? I do understand where you’re coming from it just have to wonder how long before either the Gulf of Tonkin problem or the killing of someone like Ferdinand happens and then all options are off the table.. Absolutely, and that is the corruption of our government, it will happen irrespective of providing aid to try and help a sovereign people remain so. We are not really apart, just see a different boogie man.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2023 8:26:52 GMT -6
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Post by JimmyB2 on Feb 15, 2023 10:00:27 GMT -6
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Feb 16, 2023 8:15:52 GMT -6
Not having a girl thingy for a President and we wouldn't even need treaties. Biden's selection had more to do with this conflict than hatred of Trump I believe. They didn't have much dirt on any of the other candidates.............................
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Post by ironeagle on Feb 16, 2023 9:23:19 GMT -6
The problem is that Biden family is more afraid of being exposed of being more corrupt than a mafia family than actually giving a crap about America. Just think about this Hunter has been part of billions of dollars in foreign countries dealing while dear old dad was both a senator then vice president. How does a drug addict get 1.5 billion from China. Oh yeah his dad was Vice president. They basically said funnel the excess into dad's pockets and call it good. In the Ukraine he made millions sitting on a board of a company that he never attended one meeting of. The company was investigated for money laundering for the Russian mob.
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