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Post by dumdave on Feb 28, 2015 11:54:37 GMT -6
He made the Union Army out of almost nothing. He just didn't know how to use it. He was more afraid of defeat than victories. "The Virginia Creeper". He had Lee's detailed orders at Antietam and failed to use them. This time Lincoln kicked him out for the second time. Lincoln offered this famous evaluation of McClellan: "If he can't fight himself, he excels in making others ready to fight." Little Mac went on to run against Lincoln in 1864 and of course lost. Later he became the Gov. of New Jersey.
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Post by dumdave on Feb 28, 2015 12:02:20 GMT -6
The majority of modern authorities have assessed McClellan as a poor battlefield general. However, a small faction of historians maintain that he was a highly capable commander, whose reputation suffered unfairly at the hands of pro-Lincoln partisans who needed a scapegoat for the Union's setbacks. His legacy therefore defies easy categorization. After the war, Ulysses S. Grant was asked to evaluate McClellan as a general. He replied, "McClellan is to me one of the mysteries of the war."-Wiki
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Post by Blue Star on Feb 28, 2015 14:20:43 GMT -6
He made the Union Army out of almost nothing. He just didn't know how to use it. He was more afraid of defeat than victories. "The Virginia Creeper". He had Lee's detailed orders at Antietam and failed to use them. This time Lincoln kicked him out for the second time. Lincoln offered this famous evaluation of McClellan: "If he can't fight himself, he excels in making others ready to fight." Little Mac went on to run against Lincoln in 1864 and of course lost. Later he became the Gov. of New Jersey. Sounds like some politicians now...
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Post by greekgod on Feb 28, 2015 19:02:22 GMT -6
When is John Boehner going to sue Obama? he said he was going to! but when? GOP and Tea Party is all talk and no action,you don't even hear 1 peep from any of the news networks not even FOX that i never watch! it will be funny if a Democrat wins in Nov. 2016 John and Mitch will crap there pants! tjsrxpilot, Speaker John Boehner will NEVER sue Obama. Boehner is pathetic, he to afraid to distance himself from the "Tea Party". Poor, Poor U.S. Speaker of the House of Representative John Boehner (R), he's the man with tan, without a plan and refuses to take a stand. He's hated more by the "Tea Party", than by the Democrats. He has no clue which way would help our county move forward. g P.S. I apologize for going "off topic" again.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 19:28:54 GMT -6
When is John Boehner going to sue Obama? he said he was going to! but when? GOP and Tea Party is all talk and no action,you don't even hear 1 peep from any of the news networks not even FOX that i never watch! it will be funny if a Democrat wins in Nov. 2016 John and Mitch will crap there pants! tjsrxpilot, Speaker John Boehner will NEVER sue Obama. Boehner is pathetic, he to afraid to distance himself from the "Tea Party". Poor, Poor U.S. Speaker of the House of Representative John Boehner (R), he's the man with tan, without a plan and refuses to take a stand. He's hated more by the "Tea Party", than by the Democrats. He has no clue which way would help our county move forward. g P.S. I apologize for going "off topic" again. Fair enough. Now, let's hear your take on Pelosi.
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Post by greekgod on Feb 28, 2015 20:37:55 GMT -6
tjsrxpilot, Speaker John Boehner will NEVER sue Obama. Boehner is pathetic, he to afraid to distance himself from the "Tea Party". Poor, Poor U.S. Speaker of the House of Representative John Boehner (R), he's the man with tan, without a plan and refuses to take a stand. He's hated more by the "Tea Party", than by the Democrats. He has no clue which way would help our county move forward. g P.S. I apologize for going "off topic" again. Fair enough. Now, let's hear your take on Pelosi. BB, LOL! Pelosi, is not the U.S. Speaker of the House now, is she? Can you explain how Boehner can remain Speaker without dismounting the "Tea Party" tiger he chose to ride? What a chickens**t! g
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Feb 28, 2015 22:52:31 GMT -6
tjsrxpilot, Speaker John Boehner will NEVER sue Obama. Boehner is pathetic, he to afraid to distance himself from the "Tea Party". Poor, Poor U.S. Speaker of the House of Representative John Boehner (R), he's the man with tan, without a plan and refuses to take a stand. He's hated more by the "Tea Party", than by the Democrats. He has no clue which way would help our county move forward. g P.S. I apologize for going "off topic" again. Greek, as usual, you are 180 degrees from reality. If he were REALLY afraid of us, he WOULD be suing Obama. No, he is one of you, slick talk, no balls.
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Feb 28, 2015 22:53:13 GMT -6
Oh yea, he better walk very carefully, or he may be gone himself.
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Post by octavarium on Feb 28, 2015 23:15:22 GMT -6
The lawsuit threat was just red meat to toss out to the base. And Snipe, wanting to push more and more to the extremes (right in yout case) isn't going to win any national elections. "The candidate wasn't extreme enough" is the hallmark of an extremist that is out of touch with reality and its centrist leanings.
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Post by dumdave on Mar 1, 2015 10:58:17 GMT -6
2016 could be the year where the GOP gets split between the moderates and the consevative wing, allowing a Democrat the waltz into the White House. Think Woodrow Wilson & Bill Clinton.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 11:59:56 GMT -6
Fair enough. Now, let's hear your take on Pelosi. BB, LOL! Pelosi, is not the U.S. Speaker of the House now, is she? Can you explain how Boehner can remain Speaker without dismounting the "Tea Party" tiger he chose to ride? What a chickens**t! g I don't blame you for refusing to answer my question. She makes the present speaker look spectacularly gifted.
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Mar 1, 2015 15:08:45 GMT -6
The lawsuit threat was just red meat to toss out to the base. And Snipe, wanting to push more and more to the extremes (right in yout case) isn't going to win any national elections. "The candidate wasn't extreme enough" is the hallmark of an extremist that is out of touch with reality and its centrist leanings. Funny, you keep saying that. We listened and had Dole ( loser ), McCain ( Loser ), and Romney ( Loser ). Yet in 2010 and more importantly, 2014 those who ran on SOLID Conservative principles won convincingly. Golly, why should we listen to the enemy ( YOU )?
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Mar 1, 2015 15:10:46 GMT -6
2016 could be the year where the GOP gets split between the moderates and the consevative wing, allowing a Democrat the waltz into the White House. Think Woodrow Wilson & Bill Clinton. Not gonna happen. Bush is gone............... We may look at the Democrats, Hillary ( leftist ) and Princess Pocahontas ( Warren, ultra leftist ) in the same fashion.
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Mar 1, 2015 15:13:06 GMT -6
BB, LOL! Pelosi, is not the U.S. Speaker of the House now, is she? Can you explain how Boehner can remain Speaker without dismounting the "Tea Party" tiger he chose to ride? What a chickens**t! g I don't blame you for refusing to answer my question. She makes the present speaker look spectacularly gifted. Isn't that spectacularly sad and at the same time understandable given the direction of this country?
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Post by octavarium on Mar 1, 2015 20:42:20 GMT -6
The lawsuit threat was just red meat to toss out to the base. And Snipe, wanting to push more and more to the extremes (right in yout case) isn't going to win any national elections. "The candidate wasn't extreme enough" is the hallmark of an extremist that is out of touch with reality and its centrist leanings. Funny, you keep saying that. We listened and had Dole ( loser ), McCain ( Loser ), and Romney ( Loser ). Yet in 2010 and more importantly, 2014 those who ran on SOLID Conservative principles won convincingly. Golly, why should we listen to the enemy ( YOU )? 2010 and 2014 were midterms and not national elections. I'm "the enemy"? F you, you bag of stinking wind! You're just a pµssy that is all talk about not paying taxes, tarring and feathering, and being the "point of the spear" yet doesn't have the balls to ACT on your unconstitutional ideas. Keep pushing further to the right. I'll get you a good deal on a fainting couch and some clutching pearls when Clinton is elected in 2016. Stupid Ayn Rand twit.
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