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Post by ~MnM~ on Apr 29, 2014 21:24:15 GMT -6
Our next door neighbors have recently had alot of stuff in their yard come up missing, and I'm taking ALL metal items. They even had a huge cast iron planter that took two of them to haul clear into their back yard, stolen. The other day their basketball post and rim were also gone, which turns out was taken to the recycling center in the middle of the day. That apparently was juvenilies that did that! Guess they lugged that into the recycling center...which the neighbors found, and did in fact get back. We do have a fenced in back yard, so I wasn't that concerned about theft happening here, but knew our fencing for Halloween was in back next to our garage. I went out behind our garage to check on our Halloween fence, and stakes...and SURE enough that ALL was gone too then as well. We have used this fencing for only decorating for Halloween for YEARS, and every year we'd put this up, and then after the holiday...wind it back up, and tie it securely...then store it behind our backyard by our garage. Along with all the steel posts needed to errect this fence in the front yard. I filed a Police report, and yes also have checked with BOTH recydling centers here in town...and nothing. Guess that I need to check with Pontiac, and Buckman's in Ottawa then too. Not that I would expect to even get all of this back, because it is probably long gone, and crushed...BUT now it's become a matter of principle. I'd just like to know WHO THE HELL is so brazen to steal off of people's property....and then yes press charges...IF that would at all even be an option to do. I woud just like to find out WHO did this. This Halloween fence was strictly a prop to put on an event for KIDS........................ THANKS..........whomever you are...you lowlife piece of ............... (FILL IN THE BLANK)! We haven't done our Halloween yard in several years, but now that our grand daugher is older, and this neighborhood has had a resurgence of new families with alot of children...we WERE going to do this again this year. People...............watch your stuff outside, nothing is safe, and to them nothing is beyond their grasp. Watch your yards, and keep watch on your neighbors yards as well. I have a feeling too that this is just going to get worse. M
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Post by Tim_SMASH on Apr 29, 2014 23:53:12 GMT -6
I had my snow shovel stolen off my front porch a few years back and shortly after a few bags of aluminum cans I had in my back patio that I was going to take to get recycled. Gotta love our fellow Streatorites.
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Post by rocket on Apr 30, 2014 6:05:09 GMT -6
Put up video cameras like I did. Least the s.o.b.s will get what they deserve when police show up to their doors to arrest them for theft. You have to lock everything up. These junk thieves will even be balsy enough to break into your home and rip out the wiring and plumbing. It has happened before at harlans place on main st. They broke down the back wall of the building they demolished and ripped out all the wiring ,that is when they were still using the building.
Sure wished Illinois was like texas where you can use deadly force protecting your property. If anyone remembered the guy that killed one of the 3 thieves stealing from him in that state.
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Post by seaturtle43 in hostile forum on Apr 30, 2014 6:18:57 GMT -6
Last year there was a beat up red pickup driving around and through alleys taking peoples stuff. I saw it yesterday, went through the alley past my house. they were not the only ones taking stuff. I have caught people taking stuff from my yard along side my house. "oh i thought you were throwing it out with trash". Um no, does it look like it's out at the edge of the street WITH the trashcans? I don't know why people think they can take anything. I'm not talking about stuff sitting out at the curb, that's obvious. I have done that to get rid of stuff knowing someone else may want it.
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Post by rocket on Apr 30, 2014 6:40:07 GMT -6
maybe recycling centers around the area should stop taking in recycling from individuals and take from businesses that have dump trucks or semi dump trucks with company names on the doors. When individuals pull up in their pick up trucks at these places can be turned away,eventually making these people realize it is not worth junking anymore.
Here is another thing to put up in your yard is those driveway motion alarms. That way anyone comes driving or walking onto your property these motion alarms will go off to alert you that someone is on your property.
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Post by rocket on Apr 30, 2014 6:44:01 GMT -6
Junkers you want a job and make money to pay your bills and provide for your family Temp services are always looking for people. You may go to one job one day then to another job the next day ,but you are always working getting a weekly check. GET A JOB AND STOP STEALING FROM PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Apr 30, 2014 7:34:30 GMT -6
Rocket, I agree with video taping, but individuals making the decision to take someone's life for stealing scrap metal or anything else, I do not feel is right.
We had some scrap metal stolen while it was sitting outside waiting for a truck to show up for it. SPD suggested that it was fair game because it was considered trash since we left it outside.
It may be SPD policy to not consider it a crime when someone steals something that is outside, but I really don't think that is how our laws are written. I feel that even if it is put in a trash can, that it is still my property until collected by the authorized person. Obviously MNM didn't feel that her fence was fair game just because it was left outside.
With our limited resources for law enforcement, I could see how it could become policy to not spend those resources filling out reports of someone taking something out of a trash can. Perhaps they also don't feel that the consequences for the offenders really justifies their time to take action to try to stop it.
I think it is similar to FOT saying that a police officer told him that there is nothing that they can do about the fighting in the streets if the offenders do not want to press charges against each other. It may be SPD policy to not spend the resources to take action when they see someone fighting, but does that really mean that there is nothing that can be done? They may not be able to put the people in prison for their offenses, but if they don't take any action and allow there to be no consequences, I think it tells people that they can just keep doing it, whether it is fighting or stealing.
Mayor Lansford said about the bar violence that he would like more officers but we can't afford it, and didn't offer any solutions to the problem. I suppose that living with bar fights and outside possessions being stolen is just part of our accepted economy(lack of that is).
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Post by helencrump on Apr 30, 2014 19:43:20 GMT -6
Saw a post on fb, originating in Portland, OR. They had video cameras, and caught a woman, pull into their drive, walk up to their front door, and take a large potted plant, put it in her car and drive away. It shows her looking all around, to see if anyone is watching her, but she apparently didn't notice the camera. Lol. It shows her very clearly. I would give anything to see her face, when she finally sees the video going all over fb!!
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Post by capncrunch on May 1, 2014 6:05:57 GMT -6
I saw that video on facebook. I guess that is the only way to show what others are doing.
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Post by toshiko on May 1, 2014 7:31:25 GMT -6
The HFH, house, had the entire AC unit stolen.
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Post by dumdave on May 1, 2014 9:32:17 GMT -6
I lost a 4 ton A/C unit at my Tx. house when it was vacant and up for sale.
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Post by father of two on May 1, 2014 10:10:09 GMT -6
Once garbage has been put out on the curb for pickup it is considered public. I believe the Supreme Court ruled on this matter. When the city had garbage collections there were a few times when law enforcement would ride with us to go through a suspects garbage without being noticed.
It is crap that these scumbags will walk up onto someone's property and take what they want. I have had a couple things taken during the years also. I even quit putting up decorations because of a couple attempted thefts during the night. I would like to be able to put them out but standing guard with a paintball gun all night isn't for me.
Maybe WE ALL should become more involved in neighborhood watch.
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Post by seaturtle43 in hostile forum on May 1, 2014 12:11:28 GMT -6
not necessarily, Some communities have where once in the trash it's considered the trash company property.
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Post by chevypower on May 1, 2014 21:37:27 GMT -6
I seen this older Man digging thru my garbage and I told Him to get going and not to dig thru my stuff...... He said it's not my property.......I then said when I have bank accounts and personal addresses in there that makes it my stuff....told Him to get wheeling, never seen Him again lol
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Post by ~MnM~ on May 1, 2014 23:57:57 GMT -6
Rocket, I agree with video taping, but individuals making the decision to take someone's life for stealing scrap metal or anything else, I do not feel is right. We had some scrap metal stolen while it was sitting outside waiting for a truck to show up for it. SPD suggested that it was fair game because it was considered trash since we left it outside. It may be SPD policy to not consider it a crime when someone steals something that is outside, but I really don't think that is how our laws are written. I feel that even if it is put in a trash can, that it is still my property until collected by the authorized person. Obviously MNM didn't feel that her fence was fair game just because it was left outside. NO...ROCKET, CRAZYTOWN...scrap or anything is NOT worth anyones life, including your own!! I think that the neighbors and us were on highlight "patrol" over the weekend. I had heard something outside in our back alley and literally ran out there. I met up with my next door neighbor who'd come out to in fact investigate the same thing...only to meet up with shady guys down on the end of the alley (in a rental house, of course!) moving some things. I shocked my neighbor guy...I flew out of my house balls to the walls....................he wanted to know where the big guy was, and why did I come out instead of him............. LOL. AND KYLE........................ SPD could not have been anymore helpful to this situation. NOOOOOOOOOOOO anything outside is not "ASSUMED" as being fair game for anyone, unless left BY the garbage / recycling. THAT fencing and posts of ours was clear up on our property along our back fenced in yard........... NOT in the alley for "FAIR GAME" nor out at the curb for garbage pick-up either! Case in point: We bought a new washer about a year ago...they hauled our old one outside, and I told them that I have a friend of the family that does alot of recycling that could come and get that, so they put the old one outside right up behind our garage. In the meantime I went to grab the phone to call our friend to come and get it, yes for scrap.............and I see out our kitchen window two guys in a truck already loading it up. Of course I start flipping out at my husband ..yelling that "OMG..there are 2 guys loading up our washer!!" He said to me...let it go. I KICK myself NOW for not going out there and yelling at them, that I had a guy to come and get it. THIS was in our alley, and yes up by our garage, not in the alley or near it..NOT out in front of our house,or on our garbage day...................................... which would of been I would assume ............. FREE FOR THE TAKING !!!! The more I think about this, the madder I get! M
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