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Post by katydid on Sept 24, 2019 8:15:57 GMT -6
[/b] Refresh my memory. [/quote] It was their money from the start.[/quote] It was. Refresh my memory........Why did we have it in the first place? |
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Post by katydid on Sept 24, 2019 8:18:13 GMT -6
Spoken like a true trumpet....snipey will so proud of you. You do realize where the money the Iranians were paid came from don’t you? Just where did that money come from? And if that is the case, why not let the Iranians withdraw it from their own bank accounts? Seriously................ Seriously.........He should apply at the Times or CNN et al. He'd be hired on the spot. |
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Post by katydid on Sept 24, 2019 8:22:32 GMT -6
Vats of egg yolk indeed................ thehill.com/opinion/white-house/436816-joe-bidens-2020-ukrainian-nightmare-a-closed-probe-is-revivedIn his own words, with video cameras rolling, Biden described how he threatened Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in March 2016 that the Obama administration would pull $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees, sending the former Soviet republic toward insolvency, if it didn’t immediately fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin.
“I said, ‘You’re not getting the billion.’ I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money,’” Biden recalled telling Poroshenko.
“Well, son of a b*tch, he got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time,” Biden told the Council on Foreign Relations event, insisting that President Obama was in on the threat.
Interviews with a half-dozen senior Ukrainian officials confirm Biden’s account, though they claim the pressure was applied over several months in late 2015 and early 2016, not just six hours of one dramatic day. Whatever the case, Poroshenko and Ukraine’s parliament obliged by ending Shokin’s tenure as prosecutor. Shokin was facing steep criticism in Ukraine, and among some U.S. officials, for not bringing enough corruption prosecutions when he was fired.
But Ukrainian officials tell me there was one crucial piece of information that Biden must have known but didn’t mention to his audience: The prosecutor he got fired was leading a wide-ranging corruption probe into the natural gas firm Burisma Holdings that employed Biden’s younger son, Hunter, as a board member.
U.S. banking records show Hunter Biden’s American-based firm, Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC, received regular transfers into one of its accounts — usually more than $166,000 a month — from Burisma from spring 2014 through fall 2015, during a period when Vice President Biden was the main U.S. official dealing with Ukraine and its tense relations with Russia.
The general prosecutor’s official file for the Burisma probe — shared with me by senior Ukrainian officials — shows prosecutors identified Hunter Biden, business partner Devon Archer and their firm, Rosemont Seneca, as potential recipients of money.
Shokin told me in written answers to questions that, before he was fired as general prosecutor, he had made “specific plans” for the investigation that “included interrogations and other crime-investigation procedures into all members of the executive board, including Hunter Biden.”
President Obama named Biden the administration’s point man on Ukraine in February 2014, after a popular revolution ousted Russia-friendly President Viktor Yanukovych and as Moscow sent military forces into Ukraine’s Crimea territory.
According to Schweizer’s book, Vice President Biden met with Archer in April 2014 right as Archer was named to the board at Burisma. A month later, Hunter Biden was named to the board, to oversee Burisma’s legal team.
But the Ukrainian investigation and Joe Biden’s effort to fire the prosecutor overseeing it has escaped without much public debate.
Most of the general prosecutor’s investigative work on Burisma focused on three separate cases, and most stopped abruptly once Shokin was fired. The most prominent of the Burisma cases was transferred to a different Ukrainian agency, closely aligned with the U.S. Embassy in Kiev, known as the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine (NABU), according to the case file and current General Prosecutor Yuriy Lutsenko.
NABU closed that case, and a second case involving alleged improper money transfers in London was dropped when Ukrainian officials failed to file the necessary documents by the required deadline. The general prosecutor’s office successfully secured a multimillion-dollar judgment in a tax evasion case, Lutsenko said. He did not say who was the actual defendant in that case.
As a result, the Biden family appeared to have escaped the potential for an embarrassing inquiry overseas in the final days of the Obama administration and during an election in which Democrat Hillary Clinton was running for president in 2016.
But then, as Biden’s 2020 campaign ramped up over the past year, Lutsenko — the Ukrainian prosecutor that Biden once hailed as a “solid” replacement for Shokin — began looking into what happened with the Burisma case that had been shut down.
Lutsenko told me that, while reviewing the Burisma investigative files, he discovered “members of the Board obtained funds as well as another U.S.-based legal entity, Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC, for consulting services.”
Lutsenko said some of the evidence he knows about in the Burisma case may interest U.S. authorities and he’d like to present that information to new U.S. Attorney General William Barr, particularly the vice president’s intervention.
“Unfortunately, Mr. Biden had correlated and connected this aid with some of the HR (personnel) issues and changes in the prosecutor’s office,” Lutsenko said.
Nazar Kholodnytskyi, the lead anti-corruption prosecutor in Lutsenko’s office, confirmed to me in an interview that part of the Burisma investigation was reopened in 2018, after Joe Biden made his remarks. “We were able to start this case again,” Kholodnytskyi said.Golly, Biden SURELY didn't commit Obstruction of Justice, now did he? If what he himself says is true he either did or he came pretty dam close. Either way, this warrants a serious, independent investigation. One would think that as hearing happy as the democrats are their supporters would be demanding such. But I'm not holding my breath......... |
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Post by katydid on Sept 24, 2019 8:38:49 GMT -6
Golly, Biden SURELY didn't commit Obstruction of Justice, now did he? If he did I guess Rudy and the presidents abuse of power will get to the bottom of it. It’s a good thing the president has his personal attorneys at the justice department running interference for him....again. Sorry to break it to ya but the President has large, legal latitude here. Regardless of what you have read in the media he's not stupid. |
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Post by katydid on Sept 24, 2019 8:40:41 GMT -6
[/b] Refresh my memory. [/quote] It was their money from the start.[/quote] trumpers will never understand this. Not too bright.............[/quote] Perhaps YOU could explain the need to drop a pallet of cash on the runway in the middle of the night, what, their computers were down?[/quote] They were busy smashing cell phones and wiping hard drives. What's a poor terrorist regime to do? |
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Sept 24, 2019 8:42:09 GMT -6
If he did I guess Rudy and the presidents abuse of power will get to the bottom of it. It’s a good thing the president has his personal attorneys at the justice department running interference for him....again. Sorry to break it to ya but the President has large, legal latitude here. Regardless of what you have read in the media he's not stupid. You don't get it, ORANGE MAN BAD................... try and keep up. Even the 16 year old that says we stole her childhood knows that. |
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Post by katydid on Sept 24, 2019 8:52:34 GMT -6
If he did I guess Rudy and the presidents abuse of power will get to the bottom of it. It’s a good thing the president has his personal attorneys at the justice department running interference for him....again. Oh wouldn't it be a crime if this transcript they keep wanting was somehow lost or destroyed.. You don't realize how downright dirty the Democrats have been in the last administration and during the dethroning of the witch Hillary apparently.
Separation of powers/executive privilege and Trump would set a very bad precedent by releasing it. The point is moot anyway. He's surrounded by leakers and traitors so if anything was really in that transcript that would nail Trump they would have done it by now. The democrats are just putting on their usual smoke and mirrors show for the dumbmasses and as you can see with your very own eyes........it never fails to succeed. |
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Post by katydid on Sept 24, 2019 8:59:59 GMT -6
Sorry to break it to ya but the President has large, legal latitude here. Regardless of what you have read in the media he's not stupid. You don't get it, ORANGE MAN BAD................... try and keep up. Even the 16 year old that says we stole her childhood knows that. Oh I get it. I call it psychotic hysteria. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 15:28:53 GMT -6
Oh wouldn't it be a crime if this transcript they keep wanting was somehow lost or destroyed.. You don't realize how downright dirty the Democrats have been in the last administration and during the dethroning of the witch Hillary apparently.
Separation of powers/executive privilege and Trump would set a very bad precedent by releasing it. The point is moot anyway. He's surrounded by leakers and traitors so if anything was really in that transcript that would nail Trump they would have done it by now. The democrats are just putting on their usual smoke and mirrors show for the dumbmasses and as you can see with your very own eyes........it never fails to succeed. How does he surround himself like this is hard for me to figure out. Is that all part of his brilliance everyone sees in everything else he does. |
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Sept 24, 2019 16:37:45 GMT -6
Separation of powers/executive privilege and Trump would set a very bad precedent by releasing it. The point is moot anyway. He's surrounded by leakers and traitors so if anything was really in that transcript that would nail Trump they would have done it by now. The democrats are just putting on their usual smoke and mirrors show for the dumbmasses and as you can see with your very own eyes........it never fails to succeed. How does he surround himself like this is hard for me to figure out. Is that all part of his brilliance everyone sees in everything else he does. You have to have people who at some level can function in the Government, otherwise you would get nothing done as well. What people fail to understand is just how many Washington creatures there are and irrespective of political persuasion, they protect the Washington way of life first and foremost. This being what it is, you gotta just grin and bear some of the bullcrap. |
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Post by northsider on Sept 24, 2019 17:36:34 GMT -6
[/b] Refresh my memory. [/quote] It was their money from the start.[/quote] It was. Refresh my memory........Why did we have it in the first place? [/quote] www.apnews.com/727282bdead6489a8521059936375210I think this explains the cash fairly well. Where do you think the money came from snipey and Katy? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 18:55:19 GMT -6
[/b] Refresh my memory. [/quote] It was their money from the start.[/quote] It was. Refresh my memory........Why did we have it in the first place? [/quote] www.apnews.com/727282bdead6489a8521059936375210I think this explains the cash fairly well. Where do you think the money came from snipey and Katy? [/quote][/div]
Why did they go through all that bullcrap to give them back their own money...Seems fishy doesn't it..
Perhaps the explanation is in this article right here...
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Post by katydid on Sept 25, 2019 8:58:00 GMT -6
Separation of powers/executive privilege and Trump would set a very bad precedent by releasing it. The point is moot anyway. He's surrounded by leakers and traitors so if anything was really in that transcript that would nail Trump they would have done it by now. The democrats are just putting on their usual smoke and mirrors show for the dumbmasses and as you can see with your very own eyes........it never fails to succeed. How does he surround himself like this is hard for me to figure out. Is that all part of his brilliance everyone sees in everything else he does. I don't think its brilliance at all. I think its sabotage. Kind of like when Bush was getting sabotaged by those from within in the aftermath of 911. |
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Post by katydid on Sept 25, 2019 9:00:25 GMT -6
How does he surround himself like this is hard for me to figure out. Is that all part of his brilliance everyone sees in everything else he does. You have to have people who at some level can function in the Government, otherwise you would get nothing done as well. What people fail to understand is just how many Washington creatures there are and irrespective of political persuasion, they protect the Washington way of life first and foremost. This being what it is, you gotta just grin and bear some of the bullcrap. Exactly. This is what I was eluding to in my post a minute ago. Even his haters have to admit he's shaken up the SOP in DC. And its about goddam time! |
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Post by katydid on Sept 25, 2019 9:28:26 GMT -6
[/b] Refresh my memory. [/quote] It was their money from the start.[/quote] It was. Refresh my memory........Why did we have it in the first place? [/quote] www.apnews.com/727282bdead6489a8521059936375210I think this explains the cash fairly well. Where do you think the money came from snipey and Katy?[/quote] Those monies were part of US sanctions in light of the Iranian hostage crisis. Maybe you don't remember that time in history but I lived it so there's that. It was a sickening time in our history. It was money that was to remain frozen until the settlements of cases were reached for their terror attacks against those and other Americans. Most claims have yet to be settled so............ it wasn't his to give. He broke the law. Then throw in the fact there were at least 3 wire transfers PREVIOUS to the nuclear deal that were not disclosed to Congress. The fact that the CASH was converted into various untraceable currencies and then delivered secretly in the middle of the night on two occasions in unmarked aircraft INTO IRAN. Now I'm done playing your little game. If you choose to believe this is OK...... carry on. I have no interest in debating with a common, ordinary party hack. |
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