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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2019 10:48:35 GMT -6
[/b][/strike] Refresh my memory. [/quote][/strike] It was their money from the start.[/quote][/strike] trumpers will never understand this.Not too bright.............[/quote][/strike]
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Post by soutsider on Sept 21, 2019 23:04:18 GMT -6
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Sept 22, 2019 0:01:53 GMT -6
yeah like secret payoffs on the tarmac. Spoken like a true trumpet....snipey will so proud of you. You do realize where the money the Iranians were paid came from don’t you? Just where did that money come from? And if that is the case, why not let the Iranians withdraw it from their own bank accounts? Seriously................
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Sept 22, 2019 0:06:53 GMT -6
[/b] Refresh my memory. [/quote] It was their money from the start.[/quote] trumpers will never understand this. Not too bright.............[/quote] Perhaps YOU could explain the need to drop a pallet of cash on the runway in the middle of the night, what, their computers were down?
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Sept 22, 2019 0:08:01 GMT -6
Vats of egg yolk indeed................ thehill.com/opinion/white-house/436816-joe-bidens-2020-ukrainian-nightmare-a-closed-probe-is-revivedIn his own words, with video cameras rolling, Biden described how he threatened Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in March 2016 that the Obama administration would pull $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees, sending the former Soviet republic toward insolvency, if it didn’t immediately fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin.
“I said, ‘You’re not getting the billion.’ I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money,’” Biden recalled telling Poroshenko.
“Well, son of a b*tch, he got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time,” Biden told the Council on Foreign Relations event, insisting that President Obama was in on the threat.
Interviews with a half-dozen senior Ukrainian officials confirm Biden’s account, though they claim the pressure was applied over several months in late 2015 and early 2016, not just six hours of one dramatic day. Whatever the case, Poroshenko and Ukraine’s parliament obliged by ending Shokin’s tenure as prosecutor. Shokin was facing steep criticism in Ukraine, and among some U.S. officials, for not bringing enough corruption prosecutions when he was fired.
But Ukrainian officials tell me there was one crucial piece of information that Biden must have known but didn’t mention to his audience: The prosecutor he got fired was leading a wide-ranging corruption probe into the natural gas firm Burisma Holdings that employed Biden’s younger son, Hunter, as a board member.
U.S. banking records show Hunter Biden’s American-based firm, Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC, received regular transfers into one of its accounts — usually more than $166,000 a month — from Burisma from spring 2014 through fall 2015, during a period when Vice President Biden was the main U.S. official dealing with Ukraine and its tense relations with Russia.
The general prosecutor’s official file for the Burisma probe — shared with me by senior Ukrainian officials — shows prosecutors identified Hunter Biden, business partner Devon Archer and their firm, Rosemont Seneca, as potential recipients of money.
Shokin told me in written answers to questions that, before he was fired as general prosecutor, he had made “specific plans” for the investigation that “included interrogations and other crime-investigation procedures into all members of the executive board, including Hunter Biden.”
President Obama named Biden the administration’s point man on Ukraine in February 2014, after a popular revolution ousted Russia-friendly President Viktor Yanukovych and as Moscow sent military forces into Ukraine’s Crimea territory.
According to Schweizer’s book, Vice President Biden met with Archer in April 2014 right as Archer was named to the board at Burisma. A month later, Hunter Biden was named to the board, to oversee Burisma’s legal team.
But the Ukrainian investigation and Joe Biden’s effort to fire the prosecutor overseeing it has escaped without much public debate.
Most of the general prosecutor’s investigative work on Burisma focused on three separate cases, and most stopped abruptly once Shokin was fired. The most prominent of the Burisma cases was transferred to a different Ukrainian agency, closely aligned with the U.S. Embassy in Kiev, known as the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine (NABU), according to the case file and current General Prosecutor Yuriy Lutsenko.
NABU closed that case, and a second case involving alleged improper money transfers in London was dropped when Ukrainian officials failed to file the necessary documents by the required deadline. The general prosecutor’s office successfully secured a multimillion-dollar judgment in a tax evasion case, Lutsenko said. He did not say who was the actual defendant in that case.
As a result, the Biden family appeared to have escaped the potential for an embarrassing inquiry overseas in the final days of the Obama administration and during an election in which Democrat Hillary Clinton was running for president in 2016.
But then, as Biden’s 2020 campaign ramped up over the past year, Lutsenko — the Ukrainian prosecutor that Biden once hailed as a “solid” replacement for Shokin — began looking into what happened with the Burisma case that had been shut down.
Lutsenko told me that, while reviewing the Burisma investigative files, he discovered “members of the Board obtained funds as well as another U.S.-based legal entity, Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC, for consulting services.”
Lutsenko said some of the evidence he knows about in the Burisma case may interest U.S. authorities and he’d like to present that information to new U.S. Attorney General William Barr, particularly the vice president’s intervention.
“Unfortunately, Mr. Biden had correlated and connected this aid with some of the HR (personnel) issues and changes in the prosecutor’s office,” Lutsenko said.
Nazar Kholodnytskyi, the lead anti-corruption prosecutor in Lutsenko’s office, confirmed to me in an interview that part of the Burisma investigation was reopened in 2018, after Joe Biden made his remarks. “We were able to start this case again,” Kholodnytskyi said.Golly, Biden SURELY didn't commit Obstruction of Justice, now did he?
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Post by northsider on Sept 22, 2019 10:17:37 GMT -6
Vats of egg yolk indeed................ thehill.com/opinion/white-house/436816-joe-bidens-2020-ukrainian-nightmare-a-closed-probe-is-revivedIn his own words, with video cameras rolling, Biden described how he threatened Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in March 2016 that the Obama administration would pull $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees, sending the former Soviet republic toward insolvency, if it didn’t immediately fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin.
“I said, ‘You’re not getting the billion.’ I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money,’” Biden recalled telling Poroshenko.
“Well, son of a b*tch, he got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time,” Biden told the Council on Foreign Relations event, insisting that President Obama was in on the threat.
Interviews with a half-dozen senior Ukrainian officials confirm Biden’s account, though they claim the pressure was applied over several months in late 2015 and early 2016, not just six hours of one dramatic day. Whatever the case, Poroshenko and Ukraine’s parliament obliged by ending Shokin’s tenure as prosecutor. Shokin was facing steep criticism in Ukraine, and among some U.S. officials, for not bringing enough corruption prosecutions when he was fired.
But Ukrainian officials tell me there was one crucial piece of information that Biden must have known but didn’t mention to his audience: The prosecutor he got fired was leading a wide-ranging corruption probe into the natural gas firm Burisma Holdings that employed Biden’s younger son, Hunter, as a board member.
U.S. banking records show Hunter Biden’s American-based firm, Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC, received regular transfers into one of its accounts — usually more than $166,000 a month — from Burisma from spring 2014 through fall 2015, during a period when Vice President Biden was the main U.S. official dealing with Ukraine and its tense relations with Russia.
The general prosecutor’s official file for the Burisma probe — shared with me by senior Ukrainian officials — shows prosecutors identified Hunter Biden, business partner Devon Archer and their firm, Rosemont Seneca, as potential recipients of money.
Shokin told me in written answers to questions that, before he was fired as general prosecutor, he had made “specific plans” for the investigation that “included interrogations and other crime-investigation procedures into all members of the executive board, including Hunter Biden.”
President Obama named Biden the administration’s point man on Ukraine in February 2014, after a popular revolution ousted Russia-friendly President Viktor Yanukovych and as Moscow sent military forces into Ukraine’s Crimea territory.
According to Schweizer’s book, Vice President Biden met with Archer in April 2014 right as Archer was named to the board at Burisma. A month later, Hunter Biden was named to the board, to oversee Burisma’s legal team.
But the Ukrainian investigation and Joe Biden’s effort to fire the prosecutor overseeing it has escaped without much public debate.
Most of the general prosecutor’s investigative work on Burisma focused on three separate cases, and most stopped abruptly once Shokin was fired. The most prominent of the Burisma cases was transferred to a different Ukrainian agency, closely aligned with the U.S. Embassy in Kiev, known as the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine (NABU), according to the case file and current General Prosecutor Yuriy Lutsenko.
NABU closed that case, and a second case involving alleged improper money transfers in London was dropped when Ukrainian officials failed to file the necessary documents by the required deadline. The general prosecutor’s office successfully secured a multimillion-dollar judgment in a tax evasion case, Lutsenko said. He did not say who was the actual defendant in that case.
As a result, the Biden family appeared to have escaped the potential for an embarrassing inquiry overseas in the final days of the Obama administration and during an election in which Democrat Hillary Clinton was running for president in 2016.
But then, as Biden’s 2020 campaign ramped up over the past year, Lutsenko — the Ukrainian prosecutor that Biden once hailed as a “solid” replacement for Shokin — began looking into what happened with the Burisma case that had been shut down.
Lutsenko told me that, while reviewing the Burisma investigative files, he discovered “members of the Board obtained funds as well as another U.S.-based legal entity, Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC, for consulting services.”
Lutsenko said some of the evidence he knows about in the Burisma case may interest U.S. authorities and he’d like to present that information to new U.S. Attorney General William Barr, particularly the vice president’s intervention.
“Unfortunately, Mr. Biden had correlated and connected this aid with some of the HR (personnel) issues and changes in the prosecutor’s office,” Lutsenko said.
Nazar Kholodnytskyi, the lead anti-corruption prosecutor in Lutsenko’s office, confirmed to me in an interview that part of the Burisma investigation was reopened in 2018, after Joe Biden made his remarks. “We were able to start this case again,” Kholodnytskyi said.Golly, Biden SURELY didn't commit Obstruction of Justice, now did he? If he did I guess Rudy and the presidents abuse of power will get to the bottom of it. It’s a good thing the president has his personal attorneys at the justice department running interference for him....again.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 13:48:13 GMT -6
Golly, Biden SURELY didn't commit Obstruction of Justice, now did he? If he did I guess Rudy and the presidents abuse of power will get to the bottom of it. It’s a good thing the president has his personal attorneys at the justice department running interference for him....again. Oh wouldn't it be a crime if this transcript they keep wanting was somehow lost or destroyed.. You don't realize how downright dirty the Democrats have been in the last administration and during the dethroning of the witch Hillary apparently.
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Post by northsider on Sept 22, 2019 14:18:55 GMT -6
Keep Trumpeting the truth as you see it Jimmy. Your “independence” is really on display.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 17:21:32 GMT -6
Keep Trumpeting the truth as you see it Jimmy. Your “independence” is really on display. Oh just because you call it like you see it you're a trumpeter.. Well everyone is entitled to an opinion whether it's right or wrong..
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Sept 22, 2019 18:10:01 GMT -6
Golly, Biden SURELY didn't commit Obstruction of Justice, now did he? If he did I guess Rudy and the presidents abuse of power will get to the bottom of it. It’s a good thing the president has his personal attorneys at the justice department running interference for him....again. I thought you had video of Trump telling the Ukrainian President to investigate Joe, something about holding a Billion dollars hostage............ Oh wait. How about it, got video? We do. BTW I notice you didn't respond to the Iranian thing........
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Sept 22, 2019 18:10:37 GMT -6
Keep Trumpeting the truth as you see it Jimmy. Your “independence” is really on display. Oh just because you call it like you see it you're a trumpeter.. Well everyone is entitled to an opinion whether it's right or wrong.. Don't forget, Orange man bad.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2019 3:31:18 GMT -6
Keep Trumpeting the truth as you see it Jimmy. Your “independence” is really on display.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2019 6:48:48 GMT -6
this is a pretty good synopsis of whats going on..I keep telling the Dems if they had a worthwhile candidate I could probably be pulled away but what they offer and keep doing to take him down is driving me back to Trump..
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Post by soutsider on Sept 23, 2019 14:49:46 GMT -6
Keep Trumpeting the truth as you see it Jimmy. Your “independence” is really on display.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 3:34:22 GMT -6
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