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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Sept 6, 2015 11:23:47 GMT -6
Fact Jack, Obama has refused to enforce more federal laws than any 40 prior officials. Now, if it isn't a war on women, why is he picking on this poor woman? Of course I am being facetious, or am I? Poor woman? The law allows same sex marriages. It requires a license that she was not willing to give. She was breaking the law. Religion is not to be in the workplace. If your beliefs prevent you from doing your job, then you must go. That's like a pro-life activist working in a clinic that does abortions. A vegetarian as a butcher. It just isn't going to work. Do you say the same thing about Obama? I am only trying to judge commitments here, are we committed to the party or the cause?
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Post by dumdave on Sept 6, 2015 11:55:16 GMT -6
Separation of church and state.
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Sept 6, 2015 14:48:36 GMT -6
Separation of church and state. What exactly does that mean, from a Constitutional perspective? Can you delineate the wall of separation? For instance, did Monica violate federal law when she said "Oh God" during her time with Bill? How about when we listen to Obama tell us how Islam has made America great? Or, perhaps, and just perhaps, when the words "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;" were written, they meant keep your nose out of each individuals right to worship as they chose, be it a nutcase Evangelical or a Rastafarian..........
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Post by antamaleen on Sept 6, 2015 16:44:38 GMT -6
Poor woman? The law allows same sex marriages. It requires a license that she was not willing to give. She was breaking the law. Religion is not to be in the workplace. If your beliefs prevent you from doing your job, then you must go. That's like a pro-life activist working in a clinic that does abortions. A vegetarian as a butcher. It just isn't going to work. Do you say the same thing about Obama? I am only trying to judge commitments here, are we committed to the party or the cause? I do NOT support Obama. I believe if the person is not in your bed, who cares who's in theirs. They want to get married, give them the @#*+ license so they can. Their money is the same as ours. I bet you a divorce attorney isn't going to be as picky.
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Post by antamaleen on Sept 6, 2015 16:45:59 GMT -6
I just came back from Kentucky. she is an elected official so the only way to remove her from office is to vote her out. this case will play out in the courts down there. She wasn't capable of doing her job. She should be ousted.
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Sept 6, 2015 16:49:50 GMT -6
Do you say the same thing about Obama? I am only trying to judge commitments here, are we committed to the party or the cause? I do NOT support Obama. I believe if the person is not in your bed, who cares who's in theirs. They want to get married, give them the @#*+ license so they can. Their money is the same as ours. I bet you a divorce attorney isn't going to be as picky. Now, contrast your response regarding Obama to the poor woman that you have started a war with.......... " She wasn't capable of doing her job. She should be ousted." Here again the question is, can we count on you starting a program of openly calling for Obama to resign his post?
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Post by antamaleen on Sept 6, 2015 16:57:08 GMT -6
I do NOT support Obama. I believe if the person is not in your bed, who cares who's in theirs. They want to get married, give them the @#*+ license so they can. Their money is the same as ours. I bet you a divorce attorney isn't going to be as picky. Now, contrast your response regarding Obama to the poor woman that you have started a war with.......... " She wasn't capable of doing her job. She should be ousted." Here again the question is, can we count on you starting a program of openly calling for Obama to resign his post? This is my personal opinion. Am I going to go to the Kentucky court and tell them to hang her? No. This is conversation. I don't run around with a rainbow flag in a parade. I do know people who do. As for Obama, I'm surprised he was reelected, wasn't impeached, or even survived the first month. (So many prejudiced people in this country.) Ahem... Including him.
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Post by northsider on Sept 6, 2015 17:11:07 GMT -6
Refusing to do her job versus our president not doing his job to your liking is like comparing apples to oranges. I read an article that stated the judge gave her the option to stay out of jail if she allowed her deputy clerks to issue the licenses so she wouldn't have to personally issue any. She refused and off to jail she went. In the same article she stated how donations had been pouring in to her but she had asked for any of it. I wonder if all of those unsolicited donations will be going to the church or if she will find some use for them. Hopefully her fifteen minutes of fame will be up soon.
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Sept 6, 2015 17:52:11 GMT -6
Now, contrast your response regarding Obama to the poor woman that you have started a war with.......... " She wasn't capable of doing her job. She should be ousted." Here again the question is, can we count on you starting a program of openly calling for Obama to resign his post? This is my personal opinion. Am I going to go to the Kentucky court and tell them to hang her? No. This is conversation. I don't run around with a rainbow flag in a parade. I do know people who do. As for Obama, I'm surprised he was reelected, wasn't impeached, or even survived the first month. (So many prejudiced people in this country.) Ahem... Including him. Cool, looks like the fishing worked.................. Sorry to keep badgering you, but there are issues that only you will engage on and I need them to drag recalcitrant Libbies like Northsider out.
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Sept 6, 2015 17:55:47 GMT -6
Refusing to do her job versus our president not doing his job to your liking is like comparing apples to oranges. I read an article that stated the judge gave her the option to stay out of jail if she allowed her deputy clerks to issue the licenses so she wouldn't have to personally issue any. She refused and off to jail she went. In the same article she stated how donations had been pouring in to her but she had asked for any of it. I wonder if all of those unsolicited donations will be going to the church or if she will find some use for them. Hopefully her fifteen minutes of fame will be up soon. Ahem, care to expand on this feeble attempt at diversion? If the Supreme Court is to be acknowledged as a legitimate source of law, and it MUST be followed, then what make a PRESIDENT, who WILLFULLY REFUSES to enforce lawful Immigration legislation? C'mon, I REALLY want to see how you try and spin this one.............
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Post by antamaleen on Sept 6, 2015 18:19:10 GMT -6
This is my personal opinion. Am I going to go to the Kentucky court and tell them to hang her? No. This is conversation. I don't run around with a rainbow flag in a parade. I do know people who do. As for Obama, I'm surprised he was reelected, wasn't impeached, or even survived the first month. (So many prejudiced people in this country.) Ahem... Including him. Cool, looks like the fishing worked.................. Sorry to keep badgering you, but there are issues that only you will engage on and I need them to drag recalcitrant Libbies like Northsider out. I'm not badgered. The bruises will heal. Lol!
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Post by northsider on Sept 6, 2015 19:23:39 GMT -6
Refusing to enforce or unable to enforce to your liking? I know you think you somehow suckered me into your argument but you really are rather transparent. You and your fellow teabaggers think that anything less than deporting every illegal immigrant in this country is ignoring the law. The reality of the current problem is that there is neither the money or manpower to accomplish this no matter what the current GOP front runner has led the simple minded to believe. What our president has proposed is to enhance border security with more border agents (not some unrealistic magic wall) and then focus the remaining resources on deportation of the illegals who are criminals. Is this ignoring the law? Technically I guess you could say yes or you could say that it is looking at a problem and approaching it in a common sense realistic fashion. As you like to say, there just no more money to spend in government. Isn't using what money you have to focus on border security and criminals a sensible approach? On a much smaller scale but similar grounds, would you say that a cop who doesn't write a ticket for every minor offense he witnesses is ignoring the law and in line for dismissal or could he possibly be focusing his time and departments resources on more pressing issues. On a side note, how does the number of deportations by our president stack up against previous administrations?
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Post by antamaleen on Sept 6, 2015 19:58:47 GMT -6
If all illegals were to be deported, the money that is spent on their benefits, would be saved and cover the manpower it would take to do so. They shouldn't have the rights of a citizen.
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Post by dive61364 on Sept 6, 2015 20:59:35 GMT -6
I just came back from Kentucky. she is an elected official so the only way to remove her from office is to vote her out. this case will play out in the courts down there. She wasn't capable of doing her job. She should be ousted. that will be argued in a court of law and not on this forum by me................. many of the people in that county back that lady's decision not to issue the marriage licenses. in fact her mom was county clerk 40 years so she is popular down there.
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Post by antamaleen on Sept 7, 2015 1:27:54 GMT -6
She wasn't capable of doing her job. She should be ousted. that will be argued in a court of law and not on this forum by me................. many of the people in that county back that lady's decision not to issue the marriage licenses. in fact her mom was county clerk 40 years so she is popular down there. Times change and people have to change with them. Hopefully, a trial isn't a popularity contest.
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