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Post by Anonymous on Apr 14, 2015 6:22:03 GMT -6
don't you think this might be sign that I may have convinced someone of something? It may have been taking a lot of years and a lot of talking, but it does seem that they are finally starting to take some action. It almost makes me think that anything could be possible for Streator! Yes, it's all because of you.
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Post by no1inparticular on Apr 14, 2015 11:43:57 GMT -6
With the exceptionally high property taxes in Streator, I don't understand the need to raise license fees to shore up the Police Department...From the looks of their Facebook page pics, they have all the combat gear they need...A pic of a militarized police force is not becoming, nor is it a positive reflection of the community...To me, it screams "violence"... www.facebook.com/pages/Streator-Police-Department/1410734535863335?fref=ts
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Apr 14, 2015 18:32:53 GMT -6
don't you think this might be sign that I may have convinced someone of something? It may have been taking a lot of years and a lot of talking, but it does seem that they are finally starting to take some action. It almost makes me think that anything could be possible for Streator! Yes, it's all because of you. Even though it does appear that the opening poster felt that it had something to do with me and I have been talking a lot about these problems, it is not all because of me. Their unreasonable snow removal ordinance is being brought to everyone's attention all because of you though.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Apr 14, 2015 18:35:40 GMT -6
It is also possible for a room full of Monkeys with an unlimited supply of typewriters and paper may eventually compose the entire works of Shakespeare. It COULD happen.... Kyle, you DO have some good ideas sometimes, it's just all the negativity, combativeness and regurgitation over and over. We have been through all that over and over and over though..... Thanks for bringing up some good points Family Man. We DO have some good folks in town. We DO have some problems, but nothing terrible for our size town and for the little bit of money that a lot of the people here make. As for monitoring the cameras, don't they have computer aided monitoring software in some cities? They have software that can look for individuals or activity at certain hours so they dont ALL need constant human monitoring? The negativity, combativeness, and regurgitation is a result of others just not wanting to hear about the problems so they continually attack me and my family and try to argue that things like fighting and urinating in public, trampling people's rights, etc. are acceptable. It has been a constant battle to try to change our community to be one where more people might feel comfortable bringing their families. There are those who would rather see some guy urinate in our streets than something positive for the community and there is a group promoting Streator as such a violent place that people here can't even be scared. In trying to counteract their promoting the continuance of the negative incidents, I have to keep on being very vocal to convince more people that it does really keep hurting business here.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Apr 14, 2015 18:36:31 GMT -6
With the exceptionally high property taxes in Streator, I don't understand the need to raise license fees to shore up the Police Department...From the looks of their Facebook page pics, they have all the combat gear they need...A pic of a militarized police force is not becoming, nor is it a positive reflection of the community...To me, it screams "violence"... www.facebook.com/pages/Streator-Police-Department/1410734535863335?fref=tsIsn't that a nice picture? When I look at it, some of their guns seem to be pointed right at me. Were they expecting criminals or law abiding citizens to be viewing their page? The bars create extra expenses that they should be covering. I want to know why it is only going up 50%. I doubt that it is even close to enough to cover the burden that some of them put on the community. With the untaxed revenue from their illegal gambling operations, I think some of them certainly can afford to start paying their share.
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Post by Anonymous on Apr 15, 2015 7:39:22 GMT -6
Their unreasonable snow removal ordinance is being brought to everyone's attention all because of you though. Wrong. That's all you, too. Own it.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Apr 15, 2015 7:56:28 GMT -6
Their unreasonable snow removal ordinance is being brought to everyone's attention all because of you though. Wrong. That's all you, too. Own it. You were the one wanting to make the snow on my sidewalks your business. Now it is. Doesn't it really seem that since you prefer to look for a way to try to attack me rather than talk about problems that should be resolved, the City now has to own up to their irresponsible governing tactics? Why don't you own up to it?
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Post by no1inparticular on Apr 15, 2015 17:38:38 GMT -6
I cannot speak about many of the bars in town and illegal gambling because I only patronize 1...However, with the legal gaming machines most places aren't pushing the envelope because they don't want the wrath of the gaming commission coming down on them...Those who are on the up & up, managing their patrons, etc... shouldn't be penalized for the antics that occur at other establishments...
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Apr 16, 2015 8:33:18 GMT -6
I cannot speak about many of the bars in town and illegal gambling because I only patronize 1...However, with the legal gaming machines most places aren't pushing the envelope because they don't want the wrath of the gaming commission coming down on them...Those who are on the up & up, managing their patrons, etc... shouldn't be penalized for the antics that occur at other establishments... I could see how it could seem unfair to any bar owners who were on the up & up, that they now have to pay more because of the need for more enforcement caused by those bar owners who refuse to follow the laws. However, I see it as more unfair that a business like a movie palace, trying to attract families and people from other communities to our downtown, would have to put up with people getting over served to the point that they are pulling their pants down in the middle of the streets to urinate and creating the excessive numbers of violent incidents that were only partially revealed in the newspaper last year. I see it as being more unfair to the citizens of the entire community to keep having their taxes raised to help pay for what the uncaring bar owners create in our streets and being negatively impacted by a reputation that keeps getting substantiated and perpetuated keeping people away from our community. I would think that those bar and club owners who are on the up & up would also feel that it is unfair that the illegal untaxed gambling operations create very unfair competition for them. Maybe the bar owners who are on the up & up should get together to ask our City leaders for better enforcement of our laws against those in their industry who seem to be unwilling to follow our laws, to create a situation that is more fair for all citizens instead of just a few bar owners. Then maybe we could have things like a successful movie theatre and not such a vacant downtown. There are five elected people in Streator who can correct these problems, all the rest of us can do is keep letting them know that we do want solutions.
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Post by my2cents on Apr 17, 2015 23:27:51 GMT -6
In defense of the Streator PD; they are extremely understaffed... I happen to know that there are only three or four police on duty on any given evening (including weekends). So it is not really that they are not doing their jobs... it is more that their job is too big to handle. We need more police in Streator! And to answer the original question, I think the camera's would be a good deterrent but not a solution.
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Post by ironeagle on Apr 18, 2015 8:12:43 GMT -6
Yes they are UNDERSTAFFED however our City has made the Choice to keep them that way. I wonder how many more cops we could have on Patrol if we did not have Anderson Fields on the City Rolls. Has that place Ever Made the City a PROFIT after all expenses including the City Workers that take care of the Grass out there. Sorry but it is TIME for ANDERSON to Freaking GO LIKE THE WIND. We already have 2 Public Courses that can be accessed at any time the Old Country Club and Twin Creeks both of which are Better than Anderson when it comes to playing. Plus you normally do not have IDIOTS blowing horns at you at them unlike Anderson.
IIRC the city closed the Pool for losing what 13 Grand in a season we the Parents of Streator ASKED the city LORDS what Anderson was losing we where told MIND OUR FING BUSINESS BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY MANAGER. They never disclose how much it costs to RUN it as they hide it in the Park budget and you never see it as a Line Item.
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Post by cmon on Apr 18, 2015 8:48:01 GMT -6
You are incorrect. Anderson Fields has its own account, Fund 41. It's in the budget that is posted online. Take the time to look it up like I did.
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Post by willy on Apr 18, 2015 9:49:25 GMT -6
Ironeagle, what's the cost to the city to maintain all the parks in Streator? The cost to the city for public works employees for at least i6 months of the year must be figured in to your computation. Anderson field employees cost is taken out of the Anderson Fields funds. So the cost of Anderson Fields to the city is the difference between revenues and debits. There is no revenue produced by the parks. What was the cost to put in the new bridge in Marilla Park. Although we own it, it is not in the city limits, where's the revenue? Memberships at the two courses you mention are far more than Anderson Fields and neither are paying any taxes to Streator. They annexed the club house at Eastwood for the fire protection, but the course remains out. And yes, I golf with a paid membership to Anderson Fields. Would you desire closing the parks as well?
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Post by ironeagle on Apr 18, 2015 10:03:30 GMT -6
It costs this City enough MONEY to put 4 more officers ON THE BEAT that is at least 1 more PER shift. Your talking a 20% INCREASE in the number of Bodies that are on Patrol. Maybe then they would be able to do Better than less than 1 DUI Arrest a WEEK Stop the Crime in this Town sorry but even the Southside of CHICAGO is looking Safer anymore than this Town. At least in Chicago you know the Police are TRYING here you never Hear about ANYTHING being DONE at all. The County does more than the POLICE we are paying massive Wages to in this town.
Last year it cost the City almost 150 Grand to run Anderson Fields in Direct Costs not including the Costs they hid in the Budget in other Places. The Revenue it brought in was 131 Grand. Good Old IL Politics at its Finest we as a City could not afford a Pool however we keep POURING MONEY IN A BLACK HOLE THAT IS THE CITY RUN GOLF COURSE.
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Post by dog on Apr 18, 2015 11:46:41 GMT -6
It costs this City enough MONEY to put 4 more officers ON THE BEAT that is at least 1 more PER shift. Your talking a 20% INCREASE in the number of Bodies that are on Patrol. Maybe then they would be able to do Better than less than 1 DUI Arrest a WEEK Stop the Crime in this Town sorry but even the Southside of CHICAGO is looking Safer anymore than this Town. At least in Chicago you know the Police are TRYING here you never Hear about ANYTHING being DONE at all. The County does more than the POLICE we are paying massive Wages to in this town. Last year it cost the City almost 150 Grand to run Anderson Fields in Direct Costs not including the Costs they hid in the Budget in other Places. The Revenue it brought in was 131 Grand. Good Old IL Politics at its Finest we as a City could not afford a Pool however we keep POURING MONEY IN A BLACK HOLE THAT IS THE CITY RUN GOLF COURSE. So it costs 150 grand to run it and they get back about 130 grand in revenue. That means they are losing about 20 grand a year, right? How can you hire one officer let alone 4 officers for 20 grand a year?
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