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Post by cityslicker on Jan 13, 2015 10:34:47 GMT -6
snipe, don't forget "schmuck" if you know what one is. The supervision in this town has looked the other way on crime and will only halfassenforce the easy "low hanging" violations and miscues. Overpaid and unskilled, best describes the supposed "chief". The town gets taken over, and then they call the state police in to issue a few tickets, that does not solve the problem.
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Post by toshiko on Jan 13, 2015 11:49:10 GMT -6
Throw the book at all of them. Shooters, obstructers(sp), and anyone involved. Charge them w/ the highest offenses. The code of silence of thugs, is no better, than the code of silence of the men and women in blue.
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Post by ironeagle on Jan 13, 2015 14:56:14 GMT -6
Sorry I consider someone getting Mugged a Violent Act. What was the First act that led to Micheal Brown getting Shot by a Police Officer. He STRONG ARMED ROBBED a Store and BEAT UP THE OWNER. He was walking in the Street and thought well it worked BEFORE against the Owner of the Store it should against a DUMB COP. He ended up taking 6 Rounds. Sooner or later downtown someone is going to be a Concealed Carry Person that gets attacked and Shots will be Fired by that person against one of these Drunks that are doing the Fighting. Where is the City of Streator going to be in that one when it comes out they where NOT ENFORCING the laws on the Books in the Civil Case. IL does NOT HAVE CIVIL IMMUNITY for CITIES. Meaning Streator could be SUED if someone Dies in one of these Brawls that happen DOWNTOWN since they are NOT ENFORCING the STATE LIQUOR Law let alone the City Codes on them.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2015 16:18:09 GMT -6
Get your five minutes at the city council meeting if you want your opinion heard.. Complaining in general does norhing unless it gets to those you want to hear it..
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2015 16:18:58 GMT -6
Not fixing nothing Fat finger cell phone move
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Post by Anonymous on Jan 14, 2015 7:01:21 GMT -6
This is even scarier. According to The Times, "More than 20 shots were fired in a melee at about 3 a.m. Sunday at Ninth and Center streets. One man, a Champaign resident whose name authorities have not released, was wounded in a leg artery. He is expected to survive. The participants in the shooting did not live in the neighborhood, but rather, were in cars that happened to have stopped near the corner of Ninth and Center."
They didn't even live in the neighborhood. They just stopped there and had a shootout. How does that happen?
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Post by ironeagle on Jan 14, 2015 7:12:11 GMT -6
With all the Drugs that are in this City maybe they were stopping by for a fix or maybe dropping off some for sale. Who the hell knows what was going on except the people invovled and they are not going to blab.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Jan 14, 2015 8:09:31 GMT -6
There were some polls on here recently that showed that many people do feel violence is acceptable. There are probably some who could point out that shootings do happen other places, probably even in Naperville. Did you read the Facebook comments on the newspaper articles? They are interesting, but sad. One comment talks about the history of unsolved violent incidents here and suggests that the criminals know that there are no consequences and why they come here. Even if it is known who was perpetrating the violence doesn't mean there will be consequences. I have a video of an officer drawing a weapon to stop violence but then allowing the criminals to just walk away. Maybe the shooters were downtown that night and saw first hand that there a lack of consequences for crime here. . Most people will live with the bar fights, and not consider it as violence. Shootings, whether they happen in Naperville or Streator, would be considered by most, if not all, a violent act. I think I would agree that even if an arrest is made, there might not be any consequences, or reduced consequences. We need to follow this story and see if our previous claims about Towne and his office pan out. We will see if it gets plea bargained down and what the punishment actually is. You keep making claims like this and then not backing them up or providing any requested supporting information. Here are two that I am still waiting for your answers to: What was the Mayor's "vision" that you claim that we elected him on so that according to you, we now have to suffer with the bar violence and results of everything else he does including his violating our laws (and you expect us to be happy about it)? These shoot outs must be part of his "vision" as well? What is the "common goal" that they were working towards when they attacked business owners with false claims of illegal for doing what they recommended in their Comprehensive Plan? Now on to this claim. Please provide the data from your poll of all Streator residents showing that most don't consider bar fights as violence. I would think that if we showed people the picture of the tourist who was beaten on Main Street and hospitalized with head trauma, most would think he was a victim of violence. Did you ever see what he looked like after the severe beating? I would think that the person who had his jaw broken on the Main Street sidewalk (well outside the bar), because they wanted him to leave but didn't even bother calling SPD, felt that he was a victim of violence with his jaw wired shut. When my family and/or customers coming out of the Majestic see people laying unconscious in a pool of blood (happened several times), I am confident that many of them see it as violence. I really don't think that your unsupported ridiculous claims make our Mayor look any better for allowing these things to go on for so long, hurting our community. On a side note, I noticed that one of those arrested in the shoot out case has the same last name as another person who was involved in a very violent beating downtown. Coincidence?
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Jan 14, 2015 8:10:55 GMT -6
This is even scarier. According to The Times, "More than 20 shots were fired in a melee at about 3 a.m. Sunday at Ninth and Center streets. One man, a Champaign resident whose name authorities have not released, was wounded in a leg artery. He is expected to survive. The participants in the shooting did not live in the neighborhood, but rather, were in cars that happened to have stopped near the corner of Ninth and Center." They didn't even live in the neighborhood. They just stopped there and had a shootout. How does that happen? So SPD does know who the shooters are to know that they did not live here and just happened to stop there? Well that is good news, but why didn't they release their names and descriptions so that the rest of the community can be on the lookout in case they decide to "just happen to stop" in Streator again? It seems that they arrested some people for obstructing the investigation, thinking that they know more about it but aren't telling. However they are keeping the injured person's name quiet and not announcing any charges against him? Is he the one who identified the shooters? I think this happens because people talk about the lack of enforcement here and others find it a good place to come do their crap without much fear of consequences. Maybe they were downtown when police drew a weapon to stop the fighting and saw first hand that consequences for violence are not taken very seriously here and that some people here see the violence as acceptable.
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Post by dog on Jan 14, 2015 8:45:02 GMT -6
So SPD does know who the shooters are to know that they did not live here and just happened to stop there? Well that is good news, but why didn't they release their names and descriptions so that the rest of the community can be on the lookout in case they decide to "just happen to stop" in Streator again? The name of the shooter is John Doe from Chicago. Now tell me, how would the people from Streator identify John Doe if he isn't from here, and probably doesn't associate with the people of Streator that releasing the name, would be protected from? Is the shooter wearing a name tag? Could they release a description that is so precise that a person walking down the street could say, This is the guy? It is politically incorrect and racially discriminating to identify a person using skin color.
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Post by dive61364 on Jan 14, 2015 14:17:24 GMT -6
seeing that the police already know the accused were not from the Streator area gives me the impression that they have an idea who they are looking for.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Jan 14, 2015 16:14:20 GMT -6
So SPD does know who the shooters are to know that they did not live here and just happened to stop there? Well that is good news, but why didn't they release their names and descriptions so that the rest of the community can be on the lookout in case they decide to "just happen to stop" in Streator again? The name of the shooter is John Doe from Chicago. Now tell me, how would the people from Streator identify John Doe if he isn't from here, and probably doesn't associate with the people of Streator that releasing the name, would be protected from? Is the shooter wearing a name tag? Could they release a description that is so precise that a person walking down the street could say, This is the guy? It is politically incorrect and racially discriminating to identify a person using skin color. Probably doesn't associate with the people of Streator? Where did you get that from? I think they do associate with people of Streator. They just happened to stop by a residential area of Streator at 3am even though they have no association with anyone here? Really? I suspect that there are people here who do know who John Doe is. It seems that John Doe is not worried about consequences in Streator, perhaps he is considering setting up his lifestyle in our community. If he attempts to rent a house from one of our local landlords, why would they have any reason not to rent to him since the City of Streator hasn't released his name. Do you really think that Police across the country don't release descriptions of suspects that they are looking for and not use skin color or ethnic background? Since when has the City of Streator worried about being politically correct? Do they consider denying people's Constitutional Rights and falsely, publicly declaring business owners illegal being politically correct? They seem to have plenty of time and resources to drive good people and businesses out of the community, but are worried about offending a shooter? Really? You really seem to be grasping at straws these days dog. Remember now, we are living the "vision" that Mayor Lansford was elected on. Shooters seem to be part of his vision, but you say that we need to just happily go along with it.
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Post by cmon on Jan 14, 2015 16:59:51 GMT -6
Funny how you can twist anything that happens in this community to serve yourself Kyle. Narcissism at it's finest.
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Post by theactualtruth on Jan 14, 2015 20:30:08 GMT -6
Skin color, weight, height, body build are all good descriptors. Hair color or facial hair is good but could be changed easily enough. Bet I could guess............... Black skin , brown eyes , black hair, dates fat white women? I should of been a police sketch artist because you can have a 98% chance of drawing the same picture every time just add some dred locks in every other picture and you will get your man eventually.
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Post by cubblue on Jan 15, 2015 1:22:49 GMT -6
Not all black people are criminals. It could of been a white person that was involved in the shooting.
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