|
Post by Kyle Mitchell on Sept 15, 2014 10:25:11 GMT -6
Actually the City Manager runs the day to day operations of the city. The Mayor is more of a figurehead who conducts meetings. You should have and still should be going to the CM. The Mayor and Council are the only people that the citizens hire and they are the only ones who hire the City Manager. i hold them responsible for what our City Manager does. The Mayor said that he consulted with the City manager for the requirement. You can say he is just a figurehead, but I am confident that if our Mayor doesn't want a business to be located here, it won't be.
|
|
|
Post by Kyle Mitchell on Sept 15, 2014 10:36:28 GMT -6
Kyle. Quit B*tching about the bar YOU CHOSE TO MOVED ACROSS THE STREET FROM. Like you, I moved here, but unlike you, I chose not to live across the street or near a bar. Tell us something new. -Dave I have only been talking about wanting our laws to be enforced. Our City has adopted Comprehensive Plans that recommend that people live downtown. Don't you think that if they want people to live downtown that our City should provide an environment conducive to residing in the area by having laws enforced? My talking about these problems is really not for quality of life issues for my residence. It is about trying to have a downtown that so many people aren't afraid to come to, so that maybe we can have a batter chance of having an open movie palace and other businesses. I'm not asking for anything bad for our community. Wouldn't having less street brawls be a good thing?
|
|
|
Post by dog on Sept 15, 2014 11:31:53 GMT -6
I'm not asking for anything bad for our community. Wouldn't having less street brawls be a good thing? If you could understand that almost everyone here would agree that you arent asking for anything bad and we would all agree that eliminating fighting would be a good thing, maybe just maybe,you could be gaining support instead of losing it. When people like DumDave and MnM start expressing their frustration with your attitude and your method of trying to fix legitimate concerns, you should take heed and maybe plot another course of action.
|
|
|
Post by Anonymous on Sept 15, 2014 11:34:04 GMT -6
My talking about these problems is really not for quality of life issues for my residence. It is about trying to have a downtown that so many people aren't afraid to come to, so that maybe we can have a batter chance of having an open movie palace and other businesses. Two things - 1. How do you explain Rashids, Trainor Floor Covering, Ace Hardware, H & H Mercantile, Don's Furniture, Steve's Bakery, etc. (Apologies to all of the many businesses I am forgetting to name that are located downtown. You are included even if I didn't type your name) They seem to be successful businesses with customers. 2. Please SO'ers - show of hands if you are afraid to go downtown. I'm not.
|
|
|
Post by dog on Sept 15, 2014 11:42:48 GMT -6
2. Please SO'ers - show of hands if you are afraid to go downtown. I'm not. Honestly, I dont venture out late at night to go downtown. That being said, if I could wait to go to someplace like Walgreens, I will go in the morning or afternoon. Or if I felt uncomfortable going to a midnight showing I would go to an earlier show. That applies whether I was in Streator, or almost any other city. The point I am trying to make is Ace, Flips,Rashids, Walgreens, etc would still get my business one way or the other. I am certainly not afraid to go into Ace at all. I go there probably 2 or 3 times a week and it is right next to the bar in question.
|
|
|
Post by dog on Sept 15, 2014 11:48:50 GMT -6
Let me first off say this isnt right but it is just an observation. How many people are really turned off by violence and human anguish anymore? You dont have to look much farther to You Tube to see how people deal with violence...........they whip out their cellphone and film it. Society as a whole is the major driving force behind many of the problems we face here in Streator and around the country.
|
|
|
Post by dumdave on Sept 15, 2014 12:01:09 GMT -6
"Wouldn't having less street brawls be a good thing?"-Kyle. Not in my neighborhood and I have been here 8 years. We also looked hard FOR A WHOLE YEAR to find a nice home in a nice neighborhood before we BOUGHT our home. I like you. I like the aquafonics thing. I like your Building's paint job. But please, no more talk of drumken brawls as you chose to live within about 50 feet of a bar.
|
|
|
Post by greekgod on Sept 15, 2014 13:28:30 GMT -6
Perhaps someday, Kyle will realize how he has also devalued his property when it is placed on the market. He "failed" due to "Carbo's", the City Government, and now the closure of the Majestic Theater. He has pointed out all the BAD THINGS ABOUT LOCATING A BUSINESS IN STREATOR. And evidently he was not astute enough to research where to locate his own business. Anyone see a pattern here? I do believe the THREE THINGS that Real Estate Values are based on is LOCATION,LOCATION, LOCATION! Kyle, I wish you, and your white horse, all the best in your next venture. g
|
|
|
Post by greekgod on Sept 15, 2014 14:10:28 GMT -6
bigdipper,
Gee, I really appreciate your correction.
Now, what do you think of my point about Kyle.
Stay focused man, stay focused.
g
|
|
|
Post by Kyle Mitchell on Sept 15, 2014 15:47:48 GMT -6
"Wouldn't having less street brawls be a good thing?"-Kyle. Not in my neighborhood and I have been here 8 years. We also looked hard FOR A WHOLE YEAR to find a nice home in a nice neighborhood before we BOUGHT our home. I like you. I like the aquafonics thing. I like your Building's paint job. But please, no more talk of drumken brawls as you chose to live within about 50 feet of a bar. It's not about living by a bar. It is about the bar's allowing people to be served to the point that they are doing things that continues keeping others form coming to spend money to support enough other businesses to have a vibrant downtown that includes a movie palace. Drumken street brawls hurt businesses like movie theatres, making them be boarded up. Yes Anonymous, there are some other businesses that have been able to hold on, but there are a lot of vacancies. Is H&H only open part time because there is so much business? Yes greek, I know that I made a poor choice in location to buy a building for a business. However, at the time I still thought that there would be no way that our City leaders would just allow the drunken street brawls that were hurting my business at the Majestic to continue for years and years.
|
|
|
Post by greekgod on Sept 15, 2014 16:25:30 GMT -6
Perhaps someday, Kyle will realize how he has also devalued his property when it is placed on the market. He "failed" due to "Carbo's", the City Government, and now the closure of the Majestic Theater. He has pointed out all the BAD THINGS ABOUT LOCATING A BUSINESS IN STREATOR. Evidently he was not astute enough to research where to locate his own business. Anyone see a pattern here? I do believe the THREE THINGS that Real Estate Values are based on is LOCATION,LOCATION, LOCATION! Kyle, I wish you, and your White Horse , all the best in your next venture. g Kyle, Feel the love? g
|
|
|
Post by father of two on Sept 15, 2014 17:10:49 GMT -6
How many fights are there before 6pm? Most downtown businesses close by then. In over 50 years I don't think I ever saw a daytime fight downtown. There used to be a lot more bars downtown back then too.
|
|
|
Post by greekgod on Sept 15, 2014 19:04:35 GMT -6
Yes greek, I know that I made a poor choice in location to buy a building for a business. However, at the time I still thought that there would be no way that our City leaders would just allow the drunken street brawls that were hurting my business at the Majestic to continue for years and years. Kyle, I really enjoy reading a response to the question that was not asked. You purchased the building without doing your research, then complain about what is happening in the 'hood. Oh, but you are always "blameless" for any failure you experienced. Now, after your "Threads", and "Posts" of rants against Streaor, how on earth do you expect to sell your building? How many decrepit buildings have YOU complained about on existing "west of your location"? Oh, then there was a business across, Vermillion St. that really pi$$ed you off. Then, due north "in the alley" your hated the overflowing dumpsters. The "City Park" permits other's to speak, but since you rail against the "ol boy's club", you have no chance of being heard in City Council meetings. Even with that paint job on the wall, somehow I really doubt you will have an easy time selling your building in such a "violent", "deteriorating" area in Streator. Now, could you share with the Forum, on why anyone would want to buy the property you purchased? Best again to you and your "WHITE HORSE" as you ride out of town. g
|
|
|
Post by ~MnM~ on Sept 15, 2014 20:50:56 GMT -6
How many fights are there before 6pm? Most downtown businesses close by then. In over 50 years I don't think I ever saw a daytime fight downtown. There used to be a lot more bars downtown back then too. Exactly what I asked in my post to KYLE too...WHY would bar fights or more so how effect their downtown business for him to incessantly be bringing that up, video taping it all, and posting videos on youtube regarding. I think that KYLE is on a mission to perhaps SHUT down his neighboring bar, or if he had his druthers ALL bars? In which FOT I totally agree here with you too as well. I have never in all of my days seen a "drunken brawl" uptown / downtown...or in Streator ever in the daytime when stores other then the bars are open. Now if there was vandalism or break-ins occurring at his business, then hell yeah I could see his frustration then. IF the building is safe from harms way, then just let the bar owners, and the SPD control / babysit people uptown frequenting the downtown bars, that is IF there are any problems / and or fights. I feel that these "drunken brawls" he keeps harping over and over and over about have on RARE occasions happened...NOT by any means nightly!!! OR if that would actually BE the case, the City, SPD, Liquor Commissioner, and more then likely their insurance companies getting wind of those and putting the skids to those actions immediately, if not closing their doors...............would they not? KYLE I heard that you've moved your whole family to Kentucky, hopefully this is a DRY county for y'all....now you talk about and make mention of the "good ole boys club"..............best of luck then in Kentucky, oiy!!!! M
|
|
|
Post by ~MnM~ on Sept 15, 2014 21:30:57 GMT -6
Perhaps someday, Kyle will realize how he has also devalued his property when it is placed on the market. He "failed" due to "Carbo's", the City Government, and now the closure of the Majestic Theater. He has pointed out all the BAD THINGS ABOUT LOCATING A BUSINESS IN STREATOR. Evidently he was not astute enough to research where to locate his own business. Anyone see a pattern here? I do believe the THREE THINGS that Real Estate Values are based on is LOCATION,LOCATION, LOCATION! Kyle, I wish you, and your White Horse , all the best in your next venture. g Kyle, Feel the love? g Uhmmmm G...aren't you just a tad bit harsh here tho with stating "feel the love"? I think that there is a word / terminology here ...vigilante, "running them out of town on a RAIL"...perhaps? Please don't come across as such, because I do know your love and fondness for this town, and many of the people in it. You are an import to our fine community, and you fit in and your business, do you not? I mean no disrespect here to you G, but we are ALL for the most part a very kind caring community of people..this you do know, and have expressed to me personally in our talks ... your high regard for this town, and all of us here that you've had the privilege of learning about. None of us ... and hopefully I do, and can speak for many ...wanted any of this to come to this with KYLE, ever. I do agree though that KYLE is becoming his own worse enemy in a sense with regards to his family and livelihood in town here. You are spot on though about how will he now "PROMOTE" his downtown building when also he truly "CONDEMNED" it. IT is quite sad.......................... JMHO....................... M
|
|