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Post by oldtimer on Sept 19, 2014 18:49:11 GMT -6
I'm somewhat tired of hearing you call the Majestic theater a movie palace, one that would cause folks to drive to Streator to look at. The Plumb theater was much more of a palace. Nicer lobby, staircase to the balcony and colorful. The Granada theater also had a nicer interior than what you call a palace. Just because it survived for all these years doesn't make it a palace. Yes, it was all we had to watch on the big screen, but hardly a destination. The money is in the concessions and you can't sell enough pop and popcorn to make a go of it. Not in Streator. I used to go when you had it Kyle, I got tired of you tooting your horn about how lucky we were to have you in Streator, running newer movies. So much of you was too much to handle and with your constant ridicule, I refused to go anymore and as long as you had anything to do with Ottawa, I ruled them out too. You really are bad for business. I think it is a movie palace. A large auditorium, over 100 years old, a grand marquee, in the theatre industry it is considered a movie palace. Not in Streator is right, because so many people will not come to our downtown to support it because of the reputation that the bar violence keeps supporting. What are you talking about? I am sure that I never told anyone that they were lucky to have us. When we opened, Northpoint was providing new movies every week, why would I talk about that? I can not be near as bad for business as our Mayor giving out a requirement that does not follow our laws to stop a business or our City Manager declaring business owners illegal when they aren't, don't you think? Majestic, What day were the tomasellos named illegal by the city? I can't recall what day you said it was. Its a shame the city would do such a thing and run them out of town, don't you think?
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Post by oldtimer on Sept 19, 2014 18:58:35 GMT -6
So it was the bar violence that lead to the majestic demise? Who knew? I wonder how downtown naperville continues to prosper? It has more bar violence than little old Streator. What is the answer? Could it be that naperville has more store variety to appeal to a wider range of people? Downtown naperville even has more bars than downtown streator with akot more bar violence. Why do people continue to go there in big numbers all the time? Yes, I strongly believe from my experiences of trying to draw people to Streator to attend the theatre, that the bar violence does keep people away from our downtown and does hurt businesses like the Majestic. Why don't you tell us how many fights bar fights Naperville had last year so that we can compare it to the Streator number, or are you just guessing that they do have "akot" more violence? Doesn't Naperville have over ten times as much population as Streator and a lot more jobs? Perhaps that allows them to prosper. I think the big difference is that the fighting is not acceptable there and they have law enforcement take care of the problems. Did you see the video that hawk posted? You don't think that those brawlers were allowed to just walk away after fighting like the ones next to the Majestic in the video that I posted last year, do you? Don't you think it is a shame that our City leaders don't have any solutions to the problem? Majestic, You say it's bar violence that keeps people away from downtown Streator yet downtown Naperville has much more bar violence than downtown Streator and has more bars downtown, yet downtown Naperville is thriving. Doesn't it make you wonder if it's something else than bar violence that keeps people away from downtown and there is something else that makes downtown Naperville prosper? Don't you think there is a common denominator? Don't you think that common denominator could be the variety of stores in downtown Naperville that helps draw a diverse, larger crowd when compared to downtown Streator? Don't you think it's strange that Cruise Night continues to draw thousands into the downtown area each year? Does that make you wonder why people would go at night when there would be the chance that there would be more bar violence? Why do you think people are willing to take a chance on their lives to go to downtown Streator with what must certainly be bar violence every night? Or, those thousands of people decided that they would take a chance that they wouldn't see a person going to the bathroom in an alley? Do you think it's because it is something that people are interested in doing that draws a diverse, larger crowd. Kind of how Naperville has a wide variety of businesses. Don't you think the people in Naperville are willing to take a chance that they will not see bar violence because they are willing to go to downtown Naperville when downtown Naperville has more bar violence than downtown Streator.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Sept 20, 2014 6:38:01 GMT -6
I'm somewhat tired of hearing you call the Majestic theater a movie palace, one that would cause folks to drive to Streator to look at. The Plumb theater was much more of a palace. Nicer lobby, staircase to the balcony and colorful. The Granada theater also had a nicer interior than what you call a palace. Just because it survived for all these years doesn't make it a palace. Yes, it was all we had to watch on the big screen, but hardly a destination. The money is in the concessions and you can't sell enough pop and popcorn to make a go of it. Not in Streator. I used to go when you had it Kyle, I got tired of you tooting your horn about how lucky we were to have you in Streator, running newer movies. So much of you was too much to handle and with your constant ridicule, I refused to go anymore and as long as you had anything to do with Ottawa, I ruled them out too. You really are bad for business. Mr. Endres seemed to think that it was something unique, saying that it should be a tourist destination, don't you think?
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Sept 20, 2014 6:38:11 GMT -6
Majestic, You say it's bar violence that keeps people away from downtown Streator yet downtown Naperville has much more bar violence than downtown Streator and has more bars downtown, yet downtown Naperville is thriving. Doesn't it make you wonder if it's something else than bar violence that keeps people away from downtown and there is something else that makes downtown Naperville prosper? Don't you think there is a common denominator? Don't you think that common denominator could be the variety of stores in downtown Naperville that helps draw a diverse, larger crowd when compared to downtown Streator? Don't you think it's strange that Cruise Night continues to draw thousands into the downtown area each year? Does that make you wonder why people would go at night when there would be the chance that there would be more bar violence? Why do you think people are willing to take a chance on their lives to go to downtown Streator with what must certainly be bar violence every night? Or, those thousands of people decided that they would take a chance that they wouldn't see a person going to the bathroom in an alley? Do you think it's because it is something that people are interested in doing that draws a diverse, larger crowd. Kind of how Naperville has a wide variety of businesses. Don't you think the people in Naperville are willing to take a chance that they will not see bar violence because they are willing to go to downtown Naperville when downtown Naperville has more bar violence than downtown Streator. We saw the excessive bar violence numbers for Streator in the newspaper. Where are your numbers for Naperville so that we can see if they do have more bar violence per capita? They do have over 140,000 population and growing, maybe that could have something to do with its variety of thriving shops? Maybe Streator could have more of a variety of shops if we had a better business environment. Aside from people not wanting to come here to spend their money at a unique movie palace like the Majestic, there is the uninviting to business attitude from our City Hall that keeps us from having a variety of thriving businesses. In the video I saw, the Naperville police seemed to be showing that there are consequences for fighting in the streets there. Can you show me a video where they allow street brawlers to just walk away, like the video in Streator? Do Naperville businesses have to violate their laws to participate in sidewalk sales? Does the City of Naperville require building owners to remove signs from their structures? Does the City of Naperville own a deplorable, unsafe building in the middle of their downtown while going after business owners for minor code violations? Did Naperville City leaders publicly declare business owners illegal when they weren't? Did the Mayor of Naperville give out a requirement that does not follow their laws to stop a business from locating there? Maybe with a more business friendly attitude from City Hall, Streator could have a variety of thriving shops too.
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Post by father of two on Sept 20, 2014 7:18:20 GMT -6
If things are so bad for new business owners, why are new businesses opening here?
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Sept 20, 2014 10:28:30 GMT -6
If things are so bad for new business owners, why are new businesses opening here? I didn't say that no businesses have been trying to be here, I really appreciate those that make the investment. Obviously there is a large number of vacancies and many businesses, like our movie theatre, are not able to survive. The question people should be looking at is why don't we have more business here? Those reasons are why I think we need new leaders.
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Post by helencrump on Sept 20, 2014 12:41:22 GMT -6
The YMCA offers many activities for kids. They offer activities in conjunction with scc (I believe) on days off school, and half days. These are CHEAP, and often provide bus transportation from northlawn. They often have very poor attendance. And ive seen them post that some activities have been cancelled because of no one showing up. These are NOT for out of towners, they are for our school kids. Do you think it's because of bar violence and over serving? Could there be ANY chance that even if every bar closed, and the police ALL parked themselves in a perimeter around the majestic, that it would have the same attendance? From the lack of attendance at these other type of offerings, I would say that it would have minimal effect.
We've shown that activities that people love and look forward to, such as CRUISE NIGHT are well attended by streatorites AND hordes of tourists. The fairly new TENDERLOIN PUN CRAWL is still fairly small, but it draws out of staters. (Tourists).
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Post by cityslicker on Sept 20, 2014 12:47:30 GMT -6
Why is there talk of 2014 cruise night of it being the last one. Lack of volunteers and city official support, is the word on the street.
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Post by greekgod on Sept 20, 2014 17:38:22 GMT -6
If things are so bad for new business owners, why are new businesses opening here? I didn't say that no businesses have been trying to be here, I really appreciate those that make the investment. Obviously there is a large number of vacancies and many businesses, like our movie theatre, are not able to survive. The question people should be looking at is why don't we have more business here? Those reasons are why I think we need new leaders. Kyle, Of course your "Blog" has nothing to do with discouraging a business from investing or relocating in Streator, right? Let's review, 1. Didn't you state the City Government was corrupt? 2. The City Police does not enforce the laws? 3. Drunks are "peeing" in the streets due to bars, owner's not obeying the liquor laws? 4. The City Government does not make it easy to permit new businesses start up? Hey Kyle, let me give you a "challenge", is there anything you feel positive about toward Streator? g
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Post by chevypower on Sept 20, 2014 19:11:56 GMT -6
I agree, He as in Kyle is not making things any better.....jmo
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Sept 21, 2014 8:01:53 GMT -6
I didn't say that no businesses have been trying to be here, I really appreciate those that make the investment. Obviously there is a large number of vacancies and many businesses, like our movie theatre, are not able to survive. The question people should be looking at is why don't we have more business here? Those reasons are why I think we need new leaders. Kyle, Of course your "Blog" has nothing to do with discouraging a business from investing or relocating in Streator, right? Let's review, 1. Didn't you state the City Government was corrupt? 2. The City Police does not enforce the laws? 3. Drunks are "peeing" in the streets due to bars, owner's not obeying the liquor laws? 4. The City Government does not make it easy to permit new businesses start up? Hey Kyle, let me give you a "challenge", is there anything you feel positive about toward Streator? g I feel positive about voters realizing that our City needs to start doing things differently and hiring new leaders. I also feel positive about what Streator could become with the right change.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Sept 21, 2014 8:30:52 GMT -6
There are a lot of armchair quarterbacks who like to talk about why people do or do not support business and events in Streator. They act as if they know what happens on our streets while they are home in bed.
I speak from experience. I spent many weekend nights downtown tending to my business and saw what my customers were witnessing and subjecting their children to. I had a lot invested, so I went to other communities to try to get people to come here and heard their responses. I had people come out into the street in a parade for free popcorn but then hand it back when she found out it was in Streator.
I am confident from my experience of actually trying to make the Majestic successful that Streator's reputation which is supported by the on-going bar violence being allowed to go on, does hurt business here and the ability to have an entertainment venue like the Majestic downtown. I believe strongly that things need to be done differently here so that we can have a viable downtown.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Sept 21, 2014 11:30:34 GMT -6
Apples and oranges. Government is supposed to be for the people and by the people. Citizens giving their input as to what they want from their government is part of their responsibilities. Leaders are supposed to represent and work for the people who hire them and have every right to talk about the job they do.
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Post by father of two on Sept 21, 2014 15:57:15 GMT -6
If 5 new people were elected and nothing changed then what, who would be to blame? We have 3 new people now so what's holding them back from making the changes?
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Sept 26, 2014 14:19:54 GMT -6
If 5 new people were elected and nothing changed then what, who would be to blame? We have 3 new people now so what's holding them back from making the changes? Then I would keep asking for new leaders. Just because they are new doesn't mean they automatically bring the change that we need. I will keep asking for new leaders until I see that things are being done differently to start producing better results.
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