Where is the sand?

[cityslicker]

I wonder why our so called great city and state plow crews have not the knowledge to apply sand on the intersection of 12th and Park Streets. The highly paid supervisor for the city,
apparently is unaware of his job duties of providing a safe driving environment, when able to do so. He should order his lackies or call the state to address this hazard, to the citizens of the area. It has been this way, for several hours. Sand, cinders, calcium, something should be able to make the intersection safe in this weather. Maybe the snow should have been plowed before it got packed and unmanageable.

[father of two]

Maybe people should slow down.

[seaturtle43 in hostile forum]

Need some at top of e bridge and Bloomington too. Get study if you have to stop At light

[dive61364]

back in the 1960s Streator use to use cinders and sand on the city streets. this did increase the traction level around town and helped with melting when the sun shined.

[rukidding (towns local troll)]

Jan 7, 2014 18:27:55 GMT -6 cityslicker said:

I wonder why our so called great city and state plow crews have not the knowledge to apply sand on the intersection of 12th and Park Streets. The highly paid supervisor for the city,
apparently is unaware of his job duties of providing a safe driving environment, when able to do so. He should order his lackies or call the state to address this hazard, to the citizens of the area. It has been this way, for several hours. Sand, cinders, calcium, something should be able to make the intersection safe in this weather. Maybe the snow should have been plowed before it got packed and unmanageable.

REASON being They DON'T use Sand anymore is that it will get into the Drainage System on the Streets.

Then YOU HAVE a bigger MESS.

Common Sense SHOULD TELL Some of YOU to SLOW DOWN when the Conditions are like They are.

[dive61364]

there will always be slick spots no matter how many times the city workers clean or salt the streets.

[dilligaf]

23 and Livingston road was bad yesterday afternoon...
I started sliding on the ice and decided to let up and drive around the block...
Sitting at the the stop sign I watched as other cars locked them up and just continue to slide...even the cars that were creeping slid thru it and couldnt turn..

Watching all the rookie drivers yesterday on my way home I understand why the intersections were so icy...lock up the brakes and slide to a stop and tromp on the gas and spin to go

[dumdave]

Mom is a very good driver, but still she slid into a snow bank near the BK. Coupla strangers stopped and push her back on to 23.
She had to get a script for her eyes at Kroger.

[no1inparticular]

Jan 7, 2014 18:27:55 GMT -6 cityslicker said:

I wonder why our so called great city and state plow crews have not the knowledge to apply sand on the intersection of 12th and Park Streets.

Hmmm... Could it be because that intersection is in Livingston County?...


Here are a couple of FACTS regarding winter driving...

FACT - NOTHING they put down to prevent ice on the roads even works at such low temperatures...Salt only melts down to 0 degrees, so that would have been a waste of time and resources...

FACT - It is YOUR responsibility to adjust YOUR driving speeds for weather conditions...When there's this much ice/snow on the roads, SLOW DOWN...

FACT - Unless it's an emergency, we ALL have to determine whether it's worth risking life and limb to go out in this weather...If you don't have to be out in it, STAY HOME...

Above all, be thankful that our roads have been plowed and that we're not literally snowed in as other places are...

[Great Dane]

I have found shifting your vehicle to neutral when coming up on a intersection is very affective to help stopping. It stops the pushing from the transmission.

[cityslicker]

Sand and cinders provide traction. 500 pounds applied at the 3 stop signs will not plug the drainage system. Most of it would be carried away down the street. This reminds me of the p*ss poor job the cities finest did last year. Park street was like a mini mogul ski course. Incompetent leaders and lackies, give them a raise for trying and then lay them off. Let the state do it all.

[rukidding (towns local troll)]

Jan 8, 2014 13:13:06 GMT -6 cityslicker said:

Sand and cinders provide traction. 500 pounds applied at the 3 stop signs will not plug the drainage system. Most of it would be carried away down the street. This reminds me of the p*ss poor job the cities finest did last year. Park street was like a mini mogul ski course. Incompetent leaders and lackies, give them a raise for trying and then lay them off. Let the state do it all.

If it bothers YOU SO BADLY I'm sure OUR "Incompetent leaders and lackies" "the cities finest"wouldn't have a PROBLEM with You HELPING THEM OUT.

Drive like YOU HAVE a SMALL AMOUNT OF COMMONSENSE will also HELP.

I'm not even going to Address Your Comment about "500 pounds" of Sand and Cinder at One Intersection. 

[Blue Star]

Actually the 12th & Park St. intersection is in BOTH LaSalle & Liv. Co. 12st. is the border. I've seen BOTH the SPD AND Liv. Co. Deputies stop people, so either plowing crews could take care of it, while there/nearby anyway.

[cityslicker]

rutrol, 500 or 5000 pounds of sand or cinders, applied at each stop sign, in each lane, would not have any effect on on the drainage system. There is now slush at the intersections, and the only one half way clean, is in front of the cop shop.. Sand and cinders would now be ineffective now, if you need to know.

[longarm]

Cinders are very acidic and will root anything made of steel or cast iron.

Years ago the city got cinders from coal fired in boilers. Today no one in Streator burns coal. The left over is the cinders they applied in alleys or on roads.