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Post by dog on Dec 15, 2013 19:00:09 GMT -6
I am not surprised, they have protected their rights to control their product. I still doubt that they will be too worried about a customer using some images to spread some holiday cheer. I hope they dont worry either, but my wife posted two pics that she borrowed from her friends website for her site, not even thinking of copyright issues, both my wife and her friend received notices for copyright infringement. I researched what Getty was doing. Check it yourself. I think I read an article from 2010, and I think I read that 80some% of the pics posted on the internet are actually posted without the owners permission. Just watch your butt.
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Post by itsonlyme on Dec 15, 2013 19:42:37 GMT -6
After reading through a lot of your posts concerning the City Council, I really doubt that by posting this video you are simply wanting to spread Holiday cheer. Personally, I find it disrespectful.
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Post by father of two on Dec 15, 2013 19:48:10 GMT -6
So in other words its ok to break the law?
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Dec 15, 2013 20:16:47 GMT -6
only me, I agree that I have been critical of our council, but nothing negative at all was intended with the video.
FOT, It should not be ok to break the law, and there should be consequences when it is. There is a big difference between our city and state laws being broken as with the over-serving, fighting, urinating in our streets, etc. and minor infringements of rights of corporations. Many times it is hard to even know when you are; how many people read the lengthy terms of use on many sites? Some of us have copied content from the Times and posted it on here many times. If the newspaper does not want people posting what it writes or images that they post and comes after me for it, I am willing to pay the consequences for it. Personally, I bet they like people driving traffic to their site where they make money off it.
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Post by father of two on Dec 15, 2013 20:26:21 GMT -6
There is no difference. A law is a law. Doesn't matter which one. Whether you knew you were breaking the law or not. Saying that you doubt they will come after you to justify your doing it is the same excuse everyone else uses for the issues you bring up. If its not enforced what's the problem? Shouldn't all laws be enforced or certain ones?
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Post by itsonlyme on Dec 15, 2013 20:34:45 GMT -6
only me, I agree that I have been critical of our council, but nothing negative at all was intended with the video. FOT, It should not be ok to break the law, and there should be consequences when it is. There is a big difference between our city and state laws being broken as with the over-serving, fighting, urinating in our streets, etc. and minor infringements of rights of corporations. Many times it is hard to even know when you are; how many people read the lengthy terms of use on many sites? Some of us have copied content from the Times and posted it on here many times. If the newspaper does not want people posting what it writes or images that they post and comes after me for it, I am willing to pay the consequences for it. Personally, I bet they like people driving traffic to their site where they make money off it. Then why didn't you use your own and your own family members images to spread "Holiday cheer"? That would have just made more sense to me if that was truly your intent.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Dec 15, 2013 20:58:43 GMT -6
There is no difference. A law is a law. Doesn't matter which one. Whether you knew you were breaking the law or not. Saying that you doubt they will come after you to justify your doing it is the same excuse everyone else uses for the issues you bring up. If its not enforced what's the problem? Shouldn't all laws be enforced or certain ones? Go ahead report it to SPD then, when they come tell me to stop then I certainly will.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Dec 15, 2013 21:01:41 GMT -6
Then why didn't you use your own and your own family members images to spread "Holiday cheer"? That would have just made more sense to me if that was truly your intent. Because my family at the City Christmas Party wouldn't have made much sense, but this was obviously funny.
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Post by father of two on Dec 15, 2013 21:13:06 GMT -6
I'm not going to call anyone. I could care less. Just want your answer to the question.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Dec 15, 2013 21:49:43 GMT -6
Do TIFs pay to fix up private buildings here?
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Post by father of two on Dec 15, 2013 22:02:34 GMT -6
It is my understanding that they reimburse up to 66% of the improvements/new construction costs over the life of the TIF. It is for the outside of buildings but not inside. But I'm sure you knew all this already. Now answer my question.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Dec 15, 2013 22:10:02 GMT -6
Why aren't they being used to fix them up then?
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Post by father of two on Dec 15, 2013 22:25:34 GMT -6
The owners of the buildings must apply for TIF funds. Some owners may have. Walmart did for all of their property except their own building. North point did. Bill Walsh did. Don't know of any others but I'm sure thereby be a few more. Still don't want to answer my question?
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Dec 15, 2013 22:53:03 GMT -6
So why didn't your friends use it, instead of citing high repair costs as a reason not to buy buildings here? Why would the city be considering a facade improvement program now if it is already covered by TIF money? I also wonder why it is not offered to all businesses seeking help improving their buildings. I'll answer, your questions, but just wanted to point out that I provide a lot of answers to questions from others, although I don't really owe them to anyone, but some people don't return the courtesy. There is no difference. A law is a law. Doesn't matter which one. There is a difference. Our city and police department are not responsible for enforcing the civl laws that involve copyright infringement. If its not enforced what's the problem? Obviously it is not a problem to you; it seems the newspaper shares your concern, since the images are so easily available to use. Shouldn't all laws be enforced or certain ones? Yes all laws should be enforced by the appropriate organization. Enforcement of copy right laws are up to the owner, who can choose to allow use or stop it if they like.
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Post by father of two on Dec 15, 2013 23:07:40 GMT -6
Myself said, Why would the city be considering a facade improvement program now if it is already covered by TIF money? Maybe the grant would cover the portion not reimbursed. I am not sure. Not being on the council I don't have they answer. It would be better answered by someone at City Hall.
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