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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2013 17:11:10 GMT -6
Tonight is the meeting where they will be raising property taxes. They also plan to authorize a contract to demolish four more houses. People move away from Streator. Tax revenue decreases, so the tax rate rises and services drop. More people leave, houses don't sell, so taxpayers get to pay to demolish them. Tax rates go up more, and the cycle just keeps repeating. Maybe we should start doing something differently. The way i look at it the higher the property taxs the fewer slum lords will buy houses here and the more of the junk houses that you knock down the less there is for slum lords to buy..... I will GLADLY pay higher property taxes to clean up this town! thumbs down
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Post by cityslicker on Nov 20, 2013 17:20:05 GMT -6
Tat, we are already paying high taxes to clean up the town! The worthless po -po chief , has no testes, and the punk boys in blue, are afraid of their shadow. They make a fine wage for doing nothing. The city Mis-manager should have never been rehired and left in the pasture. Impeach the " good old boy& girl" way of governing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2013 17:27:28 GMT -6
some people get it some dont. ta ta The city and the people who live here is kinda like the Obama fix some take longer than others to see thou the rose colored glasses
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Post by theactualtruth on Nov 20, 2013 17:36:39 GMT -6
so you feel that the slum lords and dilapadated houses that are in this town are good for the commmunity let alone the retail business in this community? Well if the answer is no then how do you get rid of them? If the answer is yes then you can go with them for all i care. It all has to start somewhere either make it unaffordable, knock them down, or pass a building code that the slum lords wont pay to fix either way you get rid of the trash then theres some money here crime goes away and business follows.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2013 17:43:35 GMT -6
so you feel that the slum lords and dilapadated houses that are in this town are good for the commmunity let alone the retail business in this community? Well if the answer is no then how do you get rid of them? If the answer is yes then you can go with them for all i care. It all has to start somewhere either make it unaffordable, knock them down, or pass a building code that the slum lords wont pay to fix either way you get rid of the trash then theres some money here crime goes away and business follows. No but that wont take care of the slum lords for somewhere they will get by. How I dont know but they know how. I do know slum lords will not sell there house for they wont get anything for them. I know some have 9 houses. or more. Dilapadated houses will always be here. Just a negative person here.
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Post by cityslicker on Nov 20, 2013 17:58:38 GMT -6
Jud, why do you want to make it unaffordable to live in little chi-town? Just enforce the laws on the books and then pray for the spawn. Those $90,000 a year babysitters at the schools cannot teach them. So pray for them, nobody has mentioned that.
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Post by dog on Nov 20, 2013 18:05:07 GMT -6
"High taxes,no jobs and a high crime rate is why people are leaving." And yet, there's a large contention of people in our town, who disdain the retirees who choose to move here. The retirees are able and willing to pay the taxes, spend their money in town, and they're not prone to commiting crimes, and they don't need jobs. This continually causes me to shake my head. Something is better than NOthing. Seems many have forgotten the adage of a bird in the hand. Sorry, but your argument holds no merit...Why?...Because what happens when the "retirees" pass on?...Their $$$ goes with them... That being said, wouldn't it be much more beneficial to attract businesses that would employ the younger demographic?...The ones who have a longer life span, thus paying taxes longer...The ones that have families that will grow and either have a future in Streator, or move to another location where they have more opportunities... Seriously, I don't see anyone beating pavement to move here...In fact, all I've seen is the opposite... It isn't about "disdain" for anyone, it's about what is good for ALL of Streator... I would have to agree more with evaryman on this one. I have picked up more customers who have moved to Streator recently than I have lost by them moving away. Most of these folks are retirees from the suburbs who have moved here mostly because the cost of housing and the cost of living is so much more affordable here, than it is in the 'burbs. Sure older people usually die sooner, but if your argument is that portion of the population will soon disappear along with their money, I strongly disagree. If that were the case, all these retirement communities in Arizona and Florida would have dried up long ago. Granted, we dont have the climate that those two places provide, but obviously we have something they like that made them relocate here. I read in one of your other posts on how you are a fairly new resident to Streator. If I may ask, what made you decide to move here?
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Post by dog on Nov 20, 2013 18:16:42 GMT -6
I'm just curious? What jobs in streator or around allow you to retire at age fifty? You probably wont find a job like that around Streator. There are people from Streator in their 20's who are working in the Dakota's and have made $100 grand in about 10 months and Streator is still their home. With the mobility we enjoy, people arent stuck having to have their work and their homes in the same location.
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Post by dragonfly on Nov 20, 2013 18:20:01 GMT -6
Tonight is the meeting where they will be raising property taxes. They also plan to authorize a contract to demolish four more houses. People move away from Streator. Tax revenue decreases, so the tax rate rises and services drop. More people leave, houses don't sell, so taxpayers get to pay to demolish them. Tax rates go up more, and the cycle just keeps repeating. Maybe we should start doing something differently. The way i look at it the higher the property taxs the fewer slum lords will buy houses here and the more of the junk houses that you knock down the less there is for slum lords to buy..... I will GLADLY pay higher property taxes to clean up this town! Well, the way I look at it......we shouldn't be penalized for the bad seeds in this town. If the ones running this city can't figure out how to takes care of these issues, maybe they should step aside and let people who can. The value of our houses have gone down, therefore taxes should go down. Until they can figure out how to make Streator a viable town, then they should start making cuts to their own salary. Streator's council is employed by us, and we as the employer should looking at making cuts, just like any other business.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2013 18:22:35 GMT -6
The way i look at it the higher the property taxs the fewer slum lords will buy houses here and the more of the junk houses that you knock down the less there is for slum lords to buy..... I will GLADLY pay higher property taxes to clean up this town! Well, the way I look at it......we shouldn't be penalized for the bad seeds in this town. If the ones running this city can't figure out how to takes care of these issues, maybe they should step aside and let people who can. The value of our houses have gone down, therefore taxes should go down. Until they can figure out how to make Streator a viable town, then they should start making cuts to their own salary. Streator's council is employed by us, and we as the employer should looking at making cuts, just like any other business. so correct
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Post by theactualtruth on Nov 20, 2013 18:58:47 GMT -6
Well, the way I look at it......we shouldn't be penalized for the bad seeds in this town. If the ones running this city can't figure out how to takes care of these issues, maybe they should step aside and let people who can. The value of our houses have gone down, therefore taxes should go down. Until they can figure out how to make Streator a viable town, then they should start making cuts to their own salary. Streator's council is employed by us, and we as the employer should looking at making cuts, just like any other business. so correct Why have your housing prices gone down? Does it happen to be the trash house thats two or three houses down from you? Will no one pay to live in your neighborhood? Hmmmmmmm? ? what to do? Im sure that a "new council" will have the answer! There gonna bring a great business here to town and all the people that earn $0-$20000 a year are gonna get great jobs and fix those houses up and your gonna sell your house for three times as much as you bought it for! Im sure that the cut in pay by the councilmen will definately bring housing prices up! It has nothing to do with slum lords,crack dealers just lowlife trash that can buy that practically unihabitable house that is in every neighborhood here.
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Post by davesez on Nov 20, 2013 18:58:52 GMT -6
So just should retired people go. You don't want us here. Just remember you will be there some day.
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Post by no1inparticular on Nov 20, 2013 19:01:15 GMT -6
I would have to agree more with evaryman on this one. I have picked up more customers who have moved to Streator recently than I have lost by them moving away. Most of these folks are retirees from the suburbs who have moved here mostly because the cost of housing and the cost of living is so much more affordable here, than it is in the 'burbs. Sure older people usually die sooner, but if your argument is that portion of the population will soon disappear along with their money, I strongly disagree. If that were the case, all these retirement communities in Arizona and Florida would have dried up long ago. Granted, we dont have the climate that those two places provide, but obviously we have something they like that made them relocate here. I read in one of your other posts on how you are a fairly new resident to Streator. If I may ask, what made you decide to move here? What made me relocate here was I had no choice at the time...That being said, I stand by my position that the older folks in town are not enough to sustain it...I've seen many a dead city due to reliance on "retirees", with zero growth... I also beg to differ on the climate thing...How many head south as soon as the first snow falls?...I know several in town that own property in Florida, and that's where they head every winter... Also, in both FL and AZ you have many things that attract people, regardless of age...There are jobs, places to go, and the climate provides that one doesn't have to leave during the winter...Those retirement communities have far more amenities to offer than Streator does, and that's a fact that can not deny... Why not provide for ALL generations here?...Keep closing schools, raising taxes, and ignoring the blight and dead is exactly what Steator will be...
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Post by theactualtruth on Nov 20, 2013 19:07:54 GMT -6
So just should retired people go. You don't want us here. Just remember you will be there some day. Are you a value to the community or a drain?
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Post by dog on Nov 20, 2013 19:28:25 GMT -6
I would have to agree more with evaryman on this one. I have picked up more customers who have moved to Streator recently than I have lost by them moving away. Most of these folks are retirees from the suburbs who have moved here mostly because the cost of housing and the cost of living is so much more affordable here, than it is in the 'burbs. Sure older people usually die sooner, but if your argument is that portion of the population will soon disappear along with their money, I strongly disagree. If that were the case, all these retirement communities in Arizona and Florida would have dried up long ago. Granted, we dont have the climate that those two places provide, but obviously we have something they like that made them relocate here. I read in one of your other posts on how you are a fairly new resident to Streator. If I may ask, what made you decide to move here? What made me relocate here was I had no choice at the time...That being said, I stand by my position that the older folks in town are not enough to sustain it...I've seen many a dead city due to reliance on "retirees", with zero growth... What is your definition of a "dead" city?
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