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Post by cityslicker on Nov 2, 2013 14:40:39 GMT -6
Prairie State Achievement Tests and Illinois Standards Achievement Tests were a failure for the Streator area schools. The district heads say,"don't jump to conclusions." Have not we heard all of these excuses before? The heads of the schools need to be held accountable. Excuse after excuse, blame something else, that's all we ever hear. Let the boards start cutting salaries for poor performance, and see if scores rise. $90,000 teacher salaries are not getting it done. The teachers have no skin in the game. They will get paid, regardless. I cannot wait to see the rebuttal, to this.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2013 19:54:23 GMT -6
Prairie State Achievement Tests and Illinois Standards Achievement Tests were a failure for the Streator area schools. The district heads say,"don't jump to conclusions." Have not we heard all of these excuses before? The heads of the schools need to be held accountable. Excuse after excuse, blame something else, that's all we ever hear. Let the boards start cutting salaries for poor performance, and see if scores rise. $90,000 teacher salaries are not getting it done. The teachers have no skin in the game. They will get paid, regardless. I cannot wait to see the rebuttal, to this. It's not a topic that can be discussed without bringing up the decline and continued division of our American society, along with the negative effects low expectations and political correctness has had on the students sitting in those schools for the past 5 decades.. |
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Post by greekgod on Nov 2, 2013 20:21:35 GMT -6
Prairie State Achievement Tests and Illinois Standards Achievement Tests were a failure for the Streator area schools. The district heads say,"don't jump to conclusions." Have not we heard all of these excuses before? The heads of the schools need to be held accountable. Excuse after excuse, blame something else, that's all we ever hear. Let the boards start cutting salaries for poor performance, and see if scores rise. $90,000 teacher salaries are not getting it done. The teachers have no skin in the game. They will get paid, regardless. I cannot wait to see the rebuttal, to this. cityslicker, Perhaps we should have a higher standard on a child's ability to recognize the letters of the alphabet, being well feed and having a good nights sleep and their parents being responsive to recommendations of the teacher or school in how to help their young student achieve. It is interesting though isn't it, to recognize how none of the none of the "magnet schools" scored as well as the Public Schools Statewide. Hey, I bet the Public Schools would love you to be a Mentor for those students falling behind. Or even better, run for the School Broad at any level and with your vast knowledge make the system perform better! g  . |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2013 20:54:31 GMT -6
Although I agree that throwing money at the problem has not led to any improvements..
The problem does start at home and the solution lies there also..
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Post by greekgod on Nov 2, 2013 21:29:01 GMT -6
Although I agree that throwing money at the problem has not led to any improvements.. The problem does start at home and the solution lies there also.. Jimb, Thanks! I believe, the Parents have to be involved in , and the primary mentor and advocate in the education of their children. No, "throwing money" into the educational system does not ensure every child's success educationally. Test scores alone do not necessarily guarantee failure or success in life either do they? There are not easy solutions to complex problems are there Jimb? g |
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Post by oldtimer on Nov 4, 2013 7:22:34 GMT -6
Prairie State Achievement Tests and Illinois Standards Achievement Tests were a failure for the Streator area schools. The district heads say,"don't jump to conclusions." Have not we heard all of these excuses before? The heads of the schools need to be held accountable. Excuse after excuse, blame something else, that's all we ever hear. Let the boards start cutting salaries for poor performance, and see if scores rise. $90,000 teacher salaries are not getting it done. The teachers have no skin in the game. They will get paid, regardless. I cannot wait to see the rebuttal, to this. Home school your children. It seems youre more than qualified to teach your spawn. Lmao |
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Post by BTrendy on Nov 5, 2013 8:04:07 GMT -6
It's pretty sad. Economic factors and academic success go hand in hand. I'm saddened to look around our schools and see children with no coats, dirty at 8am and nobody even cared enough to run a brush or comb thru their child's hair. Poor kids do poorly. Which is interesting, because if I wasn't working, it seems I'd have even MORE time to sit and read with your child, or drill math concepts giving the child the upper hand.
A Question: were these tests issued during the heatwave, when the class rooms reached 110 degrees? If we are comparing across Illinois, I would expect the temperature controlled Naperville schools to do better than the Streator schools.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Nov 5, 2013 8:58:11 GMT -6
Maybe the tests were done when it was 53 degrees in the class rooms.
Some people said that our students should learn to adapt and toughen up because life isn't always fair and it will show them what it could be like if they end up living in a cardboard box.
I think we should provide our students the best learning environment that we can, but agree that they need to be sent to school prepared the best they can as well.
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Post by dog on Nov 5, 2013 9:06:55 GMT -6
Maybe the tests were done when it was 53 degrees in the class rooms. Some people said that our students should learn to adapt and toughen up because life isn't always fair and it will show them what it could be like if they end up living in a cardboard box. I think we should provide our students the best learning environment that we can, but agree that they need to be sent to school prepared the best they can as well. I don't believe anyone said "if they end up living in a cardboard box". You are being over dramatic. I agree that we should provide the best learning environment possible, but we also need to spend more time teaching common sense and the ability to adapt when conditions aren't the best. If society has gotten so comfortable that 10 degrees either way has caused such a drop in test scores, then se are fvcked. |
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Post by Anonymous on Nov 5, 2013 9:12:18 GMT -6
Maybe the tests were done when it was 53 degrees in the class rooms. Some people said that our students should learn to adapt and toughen up because life isn't always fair and it will show them what it could be like if they end up living in a cardboard box.I think we should provide our students the best learning environment that we can, but agree that they need to be sent to school prepared the best they can as well. Dress for the weather. Layer your kids up. As the temperature warms, they can take off layers. I believe that in that thread you are referencing a couple of us parents with kids in SES district went to our kids and were reassured that it was not cold in their school. Parents need to prepare their kids but not coddle them. |
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Post by father of two on Nov 5, 2013 9:22:53 GMT -6
Test scores are from the previous school year. ISAT's are taken in March. We surely don't think the state can compile test scores from this school year that fast do we?
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Post by cityslicker on Nov 5, 2013 9:40:18 GMT -6
The spawn & family already receive food stamps, section 8, free breakfast & lunch at school, medical care and free babysitting at school. I would expect good scores, with no worries.
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Nov 5, 2013 11:33:14 GMT -6
I think we should provide our students the best learning environment that we can, but agree that they need to be sent to school prepared the best they can as well. Kyle, looking at Americas greatest minds, just exactly what makes you believe we are even close to doing this? Somehow I fail to see how our current ideas in providing the best learning environment have produced anything close to the ones we wish them to emulate. Can we show any examples of our current educational system producing greatness? I sure can't, and hate to say it, struggle mightily trying to get my own children to work on simple critical thinking skills that were beat into us by the 8th grade. What was that about the Mansion being built on a sandstone foundation? |
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Nov 5, 2013 12:43:20 GMT -6
MM, really HARVARD?
Sorry, I hold HARVARD grads in lower esteem than our worst state schools. Much like America, it has devolved into living on it's reputation.
MIT might be a different story.
Don't get me wrong, I am not slamming Streator, what I am slamming is the concept that the only way to educate a mind is to create this fantasy league scenario and then expect it to work because simpletons such as graduated from HARVARD theorized it as such.
Better yet, just which HARVARD graduate from the last 25 years could debate Lincoln?
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Post by cityslicker on Nov 5, 2013 13:32:03 GMT -6
Act scores have a lot to do with it, and of course, money. What do these scholars do for a llving?
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