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Post by EC&T's Mommy on Sept 5, 2013 12:47:50 GMT -6
I can see if it's in OK or Colorado, but here no. It's not a state where if you throw a cig butt out the window it will set the whole state on fire.
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Post by helencrump on Sept 5, 2013 16:13:42 GMT -6
Wasn't it last year that a field around grand ridge caught fire, and was engulfed quickly? Might be a smaller scale, but acres could burn in no time.
But, i agree. Felony for litter is beyond extreme.
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Post by 2B4GIVN on Sept 6, 2013 1:00:57 GMT -6
I see many people outside stores digging through the trash and butt cans just to find Disgust and Filth from someone else's butts to smoke. NOW THAT'S A REAL PLEASANT SITE TO SEE!
IF people would pay close attention to the statistics and numbers of people who are on Medicare due to COPD and Lung Cancer, I would hope to God smokers would stop and think about their own health and especially their younger family members. WHO is going to pay for health care in the next 10+ years when the funds for Medicare are gone?
It's ONLY a matter of time !
I've watched numbers of MY own family members dying from lack of Oxygen and it's a horrible and slow agonizing death. The thought that could be me due to my parents and relatives who smoked around my siblings and me, it scares the CRAP out of me. I DON'T want to die to causes that could have been prevented. I think our Government is doing whatever they can to try to assist people from killing themselves and others by bringing on more debt that we already can't pay.
As REDICULOUS as this law may sound, at least our Government is trying to do something to prevent what is to come in the near future. I can't imagine what it will be like for those who have children who smoke now, within a few years they will be in need of medical assistance and it's NOT going to be there for them. Funds for Medicare is already becoming scarce and if we as a nation don't do something immediately there won't be health care for the future generations who are working hard and paying in to Medicare that won't be there for them.
Honestly, people might think this law is ridiculous but it's something that might work to gain revenue and I believe that's the goal, not only the littering that's going on. You have to be open to the BIG picture.
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Post by cityslicker on Sept 6, 2013 5:37:34 GMT -6
Why does the Il. Government need to gain additional revenue? We are already taxed beyond our means. They need to cut staff and promising high state pensions. Teacher's pension plans are short funded and are a burden on the taxpayer. We can thank the spineless reps and school board members for not standing up to the teacher unions. Maybe, a user tax on golf balls, will fill the coffers. Better yet, a property tax on places of worship, would fill the school board's bank accounts. How about it, board members?
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Post by oldtimer on Sept 6, 2013 9:31:22 GMT -6
Why does the Il. Government need to gain additional revenue? We are already taxed beyond our means. They need to cut staff and promising high state pensions. Teacher's pension plans are short funded and are a burden on the taxpayer. We can thank the spineless reps and school board members for not standing up to the teacher unions. Maybe, a user tax on golf balls, will fill the coffers. Better yet, a property tax on places of worship, would fill the school board's bank accounts. How about it, board members? Sounds like you have all the plans and the backbone to make it work. Instead of running your mouth, how about running for school board? Then you can be the one to stand up to the teacher's union! It's pretty easy to sit in the stands and make those comments. Let us know when you'll announce your candidacy!
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Post by cityslicker on Sept 6, 2013 10:29:53 GMT -6
Old, thank you for someone's opinion. The jellyfish on the school board, city council, and state government, would not jell well, with my proposols. Once again, thanks for the time to opine me.
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Post by oldtimer on Sept 6, 2013 11:17:41 GMT -6
Old, thank you for someone's opinion. The jellyfish on the school board, city council, and state government, would not jell well, with my proposols. Once again, thanks for the time to opine me. You call the elected people, the ones who have the backbone to run and get elected, jellyfish? You have the nerve to come on here and bash them? You're the jellyfish.
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Post by cityslicker on Sept 6, 2013 12:04:37 GMT -6
I stand behind my opinions and will not allow my thoughts to be muted. The non paying or little financial rewarding public elected jobs, are held by citizens who have no private life and have to have their petty lives involved in something , they know, little about. I doubt very few are accountants or law proffessionals, like Ottawa's commissioners. Ottawa, knows how to run a city. The school board members, are mostly, "wanabe" important old timers.
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Post by oldtimer on Sept 6, 2013 12:22:18 GMT -6
I stand behind my opinions and will not allow my thoughts to be muted. The non paying or little financial rewarding public elected jobs, are held by citizens who have no private life and have to have their petty lives involved in something , they know, little about. I doubt very few are accountants or law proffessionals, like Ottawa's commissioners. Ottawa, knows how to run a city. The school board members, are mostly, "wanabe" important old timers. Give examples of what Ottawa does that Streator doesn't do in terms of knowing how to run a city.
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Post by toshiko on Sept 6, 2013 14:06:29 GMT -6
There is NO excuse to toss a cigarette butt, or empty one's ashtray on the street! PERIOD!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2013 14:12:27 GMT -6
There is NO excuse to toss a cigarette butt, or empty one's ashtray on the street! PERIOD!! We're not saying there is!....just that it's excessive for it to become a felony and prison time.
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Post by toshiko on Sept 6, 2013 14:18:40 GMT -6
Agreed, a little much.
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Post by cityslicker on Sept 6, 2013 14:37:32 GMT -6
They encourage downtown development and business. Old, get out and look around. Take some geritol , strap on a clean depend, and grab your teeth, and head up to Ottawa. Look around and see for yourself. Maybe, stop by the Silver Slipper and get a rise, if the plumbing still works! Open your eyes and see the real progressive world. Is that "example" enough?
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Post by bleedinbuck on Sept 6, 2013 17:12:03 GMT -6
They encourage downtown development and business. Old, get out and look around. Take some geritol , strap on a clean depend, and grab your teeth, and head up to Ottawa. Look around and see for yourself. Maybe, stop by the Silver Slipper and get a rise, if the plumbing still works! Open your eyes and see the real progressive world. Is that "example" enough? I'm not getting into this debate.....But i must say this is freaking Hilarious!!!
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Post by chevypower on Sept 6, 2013 22:49:14 GMT -6
LOL now that was funny!
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