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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 23:50:48 GMT -6
Really?? Time will tell?? You don't know the good or bad?? Do you. Short term seems it’s wonderful.If the dominos fall into place along the way it may hold up. Either way the left should be happy because the Medicare cuts in it will probably result in a Democratic landslide in the midterms. We've all seen this show before. Have you forgotten? It's called "Trickle Down Economics". This tax bill is trickle down on steroids, and it's for no good reason and for no good cause. What do you expect to happen differently this time??
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 23:56:42 GMT -6
My question before the monkeys went off the rails. Why or how does the country need this tax plan?? Perhaps you should ask the hundreds of thousands of employees today who just learned they are getting a bonus, or the thousands of employees who learned today they are getting a raise. But hey, that kind of goes against the narrative, no? Hundreds of thousands are getting long-overdue raises?? Whoopie!! What about the other 150 million or so workers?? What about the health insurance many are about to lose? What about those tax increases many will have to pay?? Many are going to come up on the short end.
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Post by dog on Dec 22, 2017 9:05:12 GMT -6
What about the health insurance many are about to lose? To be honest I haven't really looked closely at the bill. Didn't the bill just remove the mandate that people buy insurance? Will they actually forcibly lose their insurance or lose it by their own choice?
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Dec 22, 2017 9:31:15 GMT -6
What about the health insurance many are about to lose? To be honest I haven't really looked closely at the bill. Didn't the bill just remove the mandate that people buy insurance? Will they actually forcibly lose their insurance or lose it by their own choice? Only in the minds of those who worship Government. By removing the MANDATE that one MUST purchase Obamacare, they deduce that you will lose it. Obamacare is exactly the "good deal" it was, save the boot on the neck of the citizenry.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 10:02:27 GMT -6
To be honest I haven't really looked closely at the bill. Didn't the bill just remove the mandate that people buy insurance? Will they actually forcibly lose their insurance or lose it by their own choice? Only in the minds of those who worship Government. By removing the MANDATE that one MUST purchase Obamacare, they deduce that you will lose it. Obamacare is exactly the "good deal" it was, save the boot on the neck of the citizenry. I do worship our government because our government is us, and I wouldn't have any other way or I would move to some other country more suitable to my beliefs. I haven't forgot the OBAMACARE MANDATE was a republican mandate. Weren't you one who biotched about people choosing to buy big screens instead of health insurance, thereby running up our costs in healthcare? Wasn't the objective of OBAMACARE to tackle the out-of-control healthcare costs because those rising costs were going to put an awful strain on our economy, or isn't that your argument anymore??
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 10:38:19 GMT -6
What about the health insurance many are about to lose? To be honest I haven't really looked closely at the bill. Didn't the bill just remove the mandate that people buy insurance? Will they actually forcibly lose their insurance or lose it by their own choice? Some would consider an automatic $400 billion cut in Medicare forcible. The short of it, people are going to lose their healthcare coverage in a very inhumane way.
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Post by nextofkin on Dec 22, 2017 11:35:49 GMT -6
What about the health insurance many are about to lose? To be honest I haven't really looked closely at the bill. Didn't the bill just remove the mandate that people buy insurance? Will they actually forcibly lose their insurance or lose it by their own choice? What about the thousands of others who will save from not having to be forced to pay for what it really was. A Insurance bailout............ The people that were getting the Obama Care for nothing or next to nothing were doing on the backs of the Americans who were forced to pay ridicules insurance rates and substantial penalties. Good reddens to the Obama Care insurance bailout. I understand it will be a choice if they want it or not and if they want it they will have to pay for it. My understanding anyway.
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Post by nextofkin on Dec 22, 2017 11:48:32 GMT -6
Only in the minds of those who worship Government. By removing the MANDATE that one MUST purchase Obamacare, they deduce that you will lose it. Obamacare is exactly the "good deal" it was, save the boot on the neck of the citizenry. I haven't forgot the OBAMACARE MANDATE was a republican mandate. I sure must of missed that one. Too my recollection that was a Democratic party move. It was also a Democratic Obama move to give out free Cell Phone and free minutes to certain people ON THE BACKS OF THE WORKING MAN. I can remember a news story on it when a certain ethnic women was standing in line to get that free cell phone and government paid minutes. While talking on her $600.00 phone she all ready had...WTF It all is out of control.
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Post by nextofkin on Dec 22, 2017 11:52:17 GMT -6
If there was such a better way to do things then why didn't the Democrats step up and get it done when they were in control.
I would agree to say why didn't any of them step up before but the Democratic party was in control and could of made something happen long ago but didn't......Now all of a sudden they are AZZ HURT!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 12:29:16 GMT -6
Is it true the Comrade may wait to sign it? If it is so good, why wait? ? Could it really be a scam and the fleecing of America? Must not have been much of a scam.Was signed into law today..
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Dec 22, 2017 14:37:39 GMT -6
I haven't forgot the OBAMACARE MANDATE was a republican mandate. You are a DAMMNED LIAR. Saying it was a Republican mandate because the DEMOCRATS took elements of Romneycare ( Incidentally a STATE issue ) is why you Democrats are such abdominal liars. Just because you used to be able to lie with impunity doesn't mean you can still do it, we are starting to call you on those lies.
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Post by northsider on Dec 22, 2017 15:02:14 GMT -6
What do you mean when you say you are calling people out on lies? Is that like calling out a certain individual who said the tax bill would cost him a fortune, believe him? Those kind of lies?
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Post by nextofkin on Dec 22, 2017 16:52:16 GMT -6
What do you mean when you say you are calling people out on lies? Is that like calling out a certain individual who said the tax bill would cost him a fortune, believe him? Those kind of lies? Northside why wouldn't it cost him a fortune. He now is no longer able to have the deductions on property he once had and along with a few other things that everyone else is complaining about. I would think it affected him also. I think he is saying even this has affected him and yes we all know he or other wealthy people in the world are not going to starve to death over this or even miss a meal over it. So I would say he didn't lie. jmo
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Dec 22, 2017 17:54:37 GMT -6
NOK, be careful, Libbies can only concentrate on one shiny object at a time, so Trumps rate reduction as all they see..........
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Post by toshiko on Dec 22, 2017 18:21:35 GMT -6
Is it true the Comrade may wait to sign it? If it is so good, why wait? ? Could it really be a scam and the fleecing of America? Must not have been much of a scam.Was signed into law today.. Yes, he did, after the "fake news", said something about breaking a promise. He was originally going to sign it later. Kinda like the double dog dare, from the media and he acted, and he took the bait. The GOP owns this hook, line and sinker. I, hope it works, but, seems we have tried this before. Reagan ended up having to raise taxes 10 times, so, I, guess we will now see. Just my observation!
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