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Post by dog on Jun 29, 2015 11:39:52 GMT -6
Wilbert, if you were just a bit older, you would have made the same statement about MANY things that now pass for "Normal" and a "Right". You cannot possibly be that naive, but you are. No I'm not naive. I'm logical.There's a difference. Obviously your "Normal and Right" must be wrong because the laws now favor same sex marriage. Bringing up sex with children and animals is just another way for the right wing to make themselves feel better for losing.....yet again. Naive is thinking anyone with half a brain would buy into passing any law allowing adults to have sex with children or animals. This right wing way of thinking is yet another attempt at diversion to make the left wing look bad. Save it please. Geesh. Just look at what the judge said: "No union is more profound than marriage, for it embodies the highest ideals of love, fidelity, devotion, sacrifice and family," Kennedy wrote. "In forming a marital union, two people become something greater than they once were." 'Equal dignity in the eyes of the law' "Their hope," Kennedy wrote, "is not to be condemned to live in loneliness, excluded from one of civilization's oldest institutions. They ask for equal dignity in the eyes of the law. The Constitution grants them that right." Equal dignity according to the Supreme Court, and what he said above, would also apply to father-daughter, father-son, mother-son , and mother-duaghter marriage. Even people who come from other countries, that allow underage girls to get married, shouldnt they be allowed equal dignity in the eyes of the law? If you dont support inter-family marriages along with gay marriages, present an argument why one should be allowed, and the other shouldnt?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2015 12:09:16 GMT -6
I'm somewhat amused by the hang up the right wingers seem to have with gay marriage. Their argument is that the bible defines marriage as a union between a man and a women so our legislation should reflect that. My amusement comes from the fact the the Old Testament has a whole laundry list of things that are a sin, many of which are punishable by death, that the right wingers seem to have no problem with. Seems a little hypocritical to try and pick and choose which bible passages you want to regulate and which you choose to ignore. Let's all be honest and include the Dems in this charade, too.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2015 12:14:13 GMT -6
No I'm not naive. I'm logical.There's a difference. Obviously your "Normal and Right" must be wrong because the laws now favor same sex marriage. Bringing up sex with children and animals is just another way for the right wing to make themselves feel better for losing.....yet again. Naive is thinking anyone with half a brain would buy into passing any law allowing adults to have sex with children or animals. This right wing way of thinking is yet another attempt at diversion to make the left wing look bad. Save it please. Geesh. Just look at what the judge said: "No union is more profound than marriage, for it embodies the highest ideals of love, fidelity, devotion, sacrifice and family," Kennedy wrote. "In forming a marital union, two people become something greater than they once were." 'Equal dignity in the eyes of the law' "Their hope," Kennedy wrote, "is not to be condemned to live in loneliness, excluded from one of civilization's oldest institutions. They ask for equal dignity in the eyes of the law. The Constitution grants them that right." Equal dignity according to the Supreme Court, and what he said above, would also apply to father-daughter, father-son, mother-son , and mother-duaghter marriage. Even people who come from other countries, that allow underage girls to get married, shouldnt they be allowed equal dignity in the eyes of the law? If you dont support inter-family marriages along with gay marriages, present an argument why one should be allowed, and the other shouldnt? Let's hear your side of the argument on this, wilbert. Don't be like greek, he runs... support your position. If YOU don't know why you believe something, don't take a side. Here's an example in favor of same family marriage:
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2015 12:40:40 GMT -6
The definition of what constitutes a "family" and "marriage" is being reconstituted to reflect the dismissal of and eventual disappearance of anything that "smacks" of Christianity.
The idea that "anything goes" as long as you're not hurting anyone is seldom defensible upon close observation, but it's one of the hooks the Left hangs it's rainbow hats on.
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Post by wilbert on Jun 29, 2015 12:46:12 GMT -6
I understand where you few are coming from but it should not even be brought up or even on the tip of anyones tongue....period. This is about same sex marriage. NOT inter-family marriages or child/adult marriages or even sex with animals. Good Lord, it's disgusting even talking about it. All of those are illegal.....incest....pedofilia. Need I say more? No I shouldn't because you few know better. Your just trying to stir the pot. Your grasping.
Definition of dignity is: : a way of appearing or behaving that suggests seriousness and self-control : the quality of being worthy of honor or respect
Self control meaning self control with a member of the opposite sex who you are NOT related to. Anything else is plain old sick and anyone who even entertains the idea of it becoming legal needs a head check!
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Jun 29, 2015 14:21:57 GMT -6
No I'm not naive. I'm logical.There's a difference. Obviously your "Normal and Right" must be wrong because the laws now favor same sex marriage. Bringing up sex with children and animals is just another way for the right wing to make themselves feel better for losing.....yet again. Naive is thinking anyone with half a brain would buy into passing any law allowing adults to have sex with children or animals. This right wing way of thinking is yet another attempt at diversion to make the left wing look bad. Save it please. Geesh. Just look at what the judge said: "No union is more profound than marriage, for it embodies the highest ideals of love, fidelity, devotion, sacrifice and family," Kennedy wrote. "In forming a marital union, two people become something greater than they once were." 'Equal dignity in the eyes of the law' "Their hope," Kennedy wrote, "is not to be condemned to live in loneliness, excluded from one of civilization's oldest institutions. They ask for equal dignity in the eyes of the law. The Constitution grants them that right." Equal dignity according to the Supreme Court, and what he said above, would also apply to father-daughter, father-son, mother-son , and mother-duaghter marriage. Even people who come from other countries, that allow underage girls to get married, shouldnt they be allowed equal dignity in the eyes of the law? If you dont support inter-family marriages along with gay marriages, present an argument why one should be allowed, and the other shouldnt? Thanks for explaining it far better than I can at this time. I am tired of dancing around idiots............
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Jun 29, 2015 14:23:17 GMT -6
I understand where you few are coming from but it should not even be brought up or even on the tip of anyones tongue....period. This is about same sex marriage. NOT inter-family marriages or child/adult marriages or even sex with animals. Good Lord, it's disgusting even talking about it. All of those are illegal.....incest....pedofilia. Need I say more? No I shouldn't because you few know better. Your just trying to stir the pot. Your grasping. Definition of dignity is: : a way of appearing or behaving that suggests seriousness and self-control : the quality of being worthy of honor or respect Self control meaning self control with a member of the opposite sex who you are NOT related to. Anything else is plain old sick and anyone who even entertains the idea of it becoming legal needs a head check! 20 years ago that same thought was prevalent about Sodomy or gasp, Gays..............
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Post by antamaleen on Jun 29, 2015 16:00:16 GMT -6
Wow! Since when does homosexuality have anything to do with animals or children? They cannot consent to having sex. Therefore it is illegal, immoral and downright abominable. You say it is against the Bible. How about the priests who can't keep their hands off the little children? Then the church hides them from the law. Bigger problems than two consenting, same sex adults that want to have a little piece of paper that says they're married.
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Post by ironeagle on Jun 29, 2015 16:15:48 GMT -6
It is called the Can of Worms that the Supreme Court Itself OPENED. Just because one Person Wants it sooner or Later Someone is going to be ASKING FOR IT in a Lawsuit and with how they said Marriage is a Fundamental Right all PEOPLE HAVE regardless that was how the Decision was worded the Court Itself Opened it Pandora's Box and there is NO WAY TO CLOSE IT.
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Post by antamaleen on Jun 29, 2015 17:32:14 GMT -6
Not with children and animals. They are protected. Homosexuality is not immoral or illegal. Molesting a child or animal is.
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Post by dog on Jun 29, 2015 19:43:34 GMT -6
Definition of dignity is: : a way of appearing or behaving that suggests seriousness and self-control : the quality of being worthy of honor or respect Self control meaning self control with a member of the opposite sex who you are NOT related to. Anything else is plain old sick and anyone who even entertains the idea of it becoming legal needs a head check! So according to you, dignity is the exercising of self control with a member of the OPPOSITE sex, who you are not related to. According to you, anything else is plain old sick. How does same sex marriage fit into that reasoning?
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Post by dog on Jun 29, 2015 19:46:43 GMT -6
Wow! Since when does homosexuality have anything to do with animals or children? They cannot consent to having sex. Therefore it is illegal, immoral and downright abominable. Does anything in a legal marriage state that sex is required? Arent there many loving marriages where sex isnt even involved?
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Post by octavarium on Jun 29, 2015 20:07:55 GMT -6
Wow! Since when does homosexuality have anything to do with animals or children? They cannot consent to having sex. Therefore it is illegal, immoral and downright abominable. Does anything in a legal marriage state that sex is required? Arent there many loving marriages where sex isnt even involved? The key word here is "consent" not "sex". Let's focus on that word, "consent" for a moment. Can a child or an animal give consent and enter into a legal contract? Sorry, but you can't marry a child or your dog. And you guys call gays sickos and abnormal, while you can't stop thinking of sex with animals and children. Irony.
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Post by dog on Jun 29, 2015 20:12:13 GMT -6
And you guys call gays sickos and abnormal, while you can't stop thinking of sex with animals and children. Irony. Yes, and people who call gays sickos and abnormal, are labeled by people like you as intolerant or some type of "ist" Told how they shouldnt judge,etc,etc. Look who is being intolerant now. Talk about irony.
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Post by dog on Jun 29, 2015 20:17:05 GMT -6
Let's focus on that word, "consent" for a moment. Can a child or an animal give consent and enter into a legal contract? No, an animal cant, but what about an 18 year old sister who want to marry her 19 year old brother? Or a 30 year old daughter who wants to marry her widowed 50 year old dad? They can most definitely give consent and enter into a legal contract, cant they?
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