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Post by toshiko on Jan 29, 2015 11:47:11 GMT -6
The video is from a drone flying over what the camp looks like now with the remaining buildings, so yes you see buildings. It's what they buildings were used for that gives us the horrifying reminder. One of the buildings contained the crematoria furnaces. Seeing that with the line of chimneys is particularly jolting. An, even after all of these years, they said, there is an eerie ashlike feel, to the soil. Think about it! Ashes of MILLIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by seaturtle43 in hostile forum on Jan 29, 2015 12:05:19 GMT -6
Ashes all over the are and beyond all of the camps. Wind blowing it. and fat content .
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Post by chevypower on Jan 29, 2015 23:09:21 GMT -6
"Seventy years after the liberation of Auschwitz, the BBC is giving the world a chance to see the ruins of the concentration camp – where 1.1 million people died — as they’ve never seen it before. A drone equipped with a camera was launched over the site located in southern Poland, and the images that resulted were astoundingly powerful. The footage’s release coincides with an official memorial service this Tuesday, marking the 70th anniversary since Auschwitz was freed by the Soviet army." The above accompanied the video. The video also had labels accompanying it, explaining what the buildings were, for those who somehow did not know. (This is an example of what worries me about kids being homeschooled by parents that are ill equiped to do so) I hope you're not still homeschooling. First off, I have no Audio that's working so I could only see a few building and a train, I HEARD NOTHING! and for the record, I held a strong A in college.
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Post by chevypower on Jan 29, 2015 23:13:26 GMT -6
Had I known this I would not of commented on the economy that's for sure, hard too believe that happened (very horrific)
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Post by helencrump on Jan 30, 2015 1:13:00 GMT -6
"Seventy years after the liberation of Auschwitz, the BBC is giving the world a chance to see the ruins of the concentration camp – where 1.1 million people died — as they’ve never seen it before. A drone equipped with a camera was launched over the site located in southern Poland, and the images that resulted were astoundingly powerful. The footage’s release coincides with an official memorial service this Tuesday, marking the 70th anniversary since Auschwitz was freed by the Soviet army." The above accompanied the video. The video also had labels accompanying it, explaining what the buildings were, for those who somehow did not know. (This is an example of what worries me about kids being homeschooled by parents that are ill equiped to do so) I hope you're not still homeschooling. First off, I have no Audio that's working so I could only see a few building and a train, I HEARD NOTHING! and for the record, I held a strong A in college. There's only music playing. There is no audio. There were labels on the video.
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Post by toshiko on Jan 30, 2015 6:09:30 GMT -6
Had I known this I would not of commented on the economy that's for sure, hard too believe that happened (very horrific) And do you homeschool? If you do, you should have taught your children of this horrific incident. HC, you are correct, on the home schooling issue. Sad indeed, some kids, will never learn of the history folks chose to ignore.
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Post by roman on Jan 30, 2015 7:15:35 GMT -6
That was quite a video. Stark, unadorned, pictures tell a lot. When I was teaching, I used to show my classes "The Twisted Cross," an old TV special on Hitler and the camps. The film contained considerable footage of the camps. Years later, I represented Oak Park and River Forest High School. one of the top schools in the state. One year, someone discovered that one of their custodians who was living under a false name had been a concentration camp guard. The board had a multi-night hearing on what to do about him. The guy was represented by a lawyer who specialized in representing former Nazis. He offered up a two-pronged defense: 1. The guy was not working in one of the famous camps; and 2. He was merely a perimeter guard. I am happy to report that despite his attorney's chutzpah, he was canned and later deported.
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Post by Blue Star on Jan 30, 2015 9:04:47 GMT -6
But still ... many tried to help & I would think somehow he could have or just left, instead of particiapating. No matter what job there, how could anyone NOT know what was happening? He could have deserted so he wasn't a part of the horrendous inhumane things being done to ...Humans!
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Post by toshiko on Jan 30, 2015 10:24:06 GMT -6
Great discussion. We must never forget. I, too, am torn. None of us know, how we would respond in the situation. The CNN special, should be mandatory viewing in ALL schools. I love, the guy, that went and spoke to schools, in the piece.
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Post by Blue Star on Jan 30, 2015 10:49:07 GMT -6
I know he would probably have been in grave danger, but how could you live with that?
Sad all the way around!
I agree Tosh, it should be taught to all people & kids, to understand what can really happen, as we know history tends to repeat it'self.
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Post by toshiko on Jan 30, 2015 11:00:32 GMT -6
Or some folks, try and rewrite it!
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Post by roman on Jan 30, 2015 11:38:25 GMT -6
IF you were a young man living in that place at that time and were called to service, what could you do? Are there any viable options to resist? Could you burn your draft card and move to Canada? Could you be a conscientious objector? I am afraid the Nazi's were pretty heavy handed with their own people as well. I have kind of mixed feelings about the typical Nazi soldiers that served. I think most of them were still part of the human race. I think it was a minority that fully bought into all the rhetoric and brain washing. Unfortunately it would be all but impossible to separate them after the fact. It would have been far better for the Janitor if his dirty little secret had never been found. He was already forced to live a secret life. That is some punishment already. I am sure a day did not go by that he was not forced to think about his past and what happened. He was a young man when it happened and most likely forced into his duty. What choice would he have had, other than a sudden death or a slow one for himself by resisting or trying to run away. The old "I was just following orders ploy" didn't work at Nuremberg.
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Post by roman on Jan 30, 2015 11:48:16 GMT -6
Another movie I used to show my students when I was teaching was "The Seventh Cross" starring Spencer Tracy. It used to shown on TV, but I haven't seen it for years. It does a great job of showing how the German people fell for Hitler's schtick. (I bet Hitler would not have liked my using a Yiddish expression in connection with him]
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Post by roman on Jan 30, 2015 13:01:04 GMT -6
No, it certainly didn't Roman. I am not saying they should be fully exonerated. Nuremburg was very high ranking officials, ones that maybe were in a position to make policy and see it through. I just have mixed feelings for condemning someone that was say a Sargent or below in rank or unless they were known to be especially sadistic or cruel. It sounds like this guy was just trying to live a quiet secret life with a new identity and working as a Janitor. Not some high ranking officer living the good life in Brazil plotting a new Nazi regime. It was all many many years ago. It should never be forgotten, but it's best to move on. Back around 2000 a friend of mine invited me to go visit his country with him where he grew up. That seemed like a big adventure to me and since he was gracious enough to invite, I accepted. I was nervous about it though, you see he came to this country as a refugee from a war zone. He was one of the boat people that had escaped Vietnam. His ship was plundered by pirates 3 times. They had nothing to eat and no navigation devices. Some people died on that journey. Anyway, I was nervous about going to Vietnam considering our 2 Nations recent history. I was afraid people might not be very welcoming. I was pleasantly surprised. The overall attitude seemed to be that what happened was in the past and that was where it should stay. Look forwards, not backwards. Pretty good advice, even in our personal lives. Forgiveness is powerful, especially for the one that can let go and do the forgiving. The janitor was in the country illegally. In those pre-Obama days, being in the country illegally was frowned upon by the government.
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Post by Blue Star on Feb 16, 2015 12:25:27 GMT -6
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