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Post by helencrump on Dec 16, 2014 12:36:31 GMT -6
It is really simple. If you want him to quit spinning what you say then quit responding to his threads. You will never change his mind on anything and you are wasting your time. I did try that, Lucky. He simply takes posts of mine that are on other threads, and not to or in mention of him, and quotes them onto his nonsense thread. I believe one of mine was in regards to SANTA, AND ALLOWING KIDS TO BE KIDS, AND BELIEVE, lol, and he put it over there to spin it to his topic. Smdh (of course it didnt have the subject of santa in what he quoted of mine, lol)
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Post by helencrump on Dec 16, 2014 12:56:44 GMT -6
Also, i dont know about anyone else, but my responses to him are NOT to attempt to change his mind or help him see the other point of view any longer. Ever since i saw though him (if anyone recalls,i supported him at one time...although it was long ago, in what seems a far away land, lol) ive posted simply because i knew eventually others would see what i was seeing. Give enough rope....
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Post by ~MnM~ on Dec 16, 2014 13:53:51 GMT -6
No offense to anyone that responds to Kyle, all you people are doing, is egging Mr. Mitchell on. like he wants us to. Maybe take in the consideration, and not respond to him. And Mr. Mitchell will also continue to twist things around just to get a response back. Exactly my sentiments.......well said. I have been saying that from the get go......if everyone would just put him on "ignore" mode then he would just babble on incessantly to himself. He FAILS to hear what any of us have to say, gets everything in his twisted craw to suit his delusional fantasies. Several people on this board are being the blunt of his attacks, over and over and over.......because he flat out again.........REFUSES to hear, there is no reasoning with him. KYLE......I truly pity you, you harbor such animosity and negativity...it's not at all healthy for you to continue to do so. Please quit...it's Christmas time, a time when we all should be filled with the joys of the season, and therefore spreading good will unto all...NOT any of this. M
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Post by helencrump on Dec 16, 2014 14:18:51 GMT -6
Mnm, apparently you didnt read where he just takes posts from other threads, coies part of them to his thread, and comments as if the post was made to him, on his thread. Lol
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Dec 17, 2014 8:30:32 GMT -6
In all honesty while violence should be dealt with, I would prefer the police department put more time into ridding the town of the heroin dealers who are killing so many people and causing a lot of the crime here. Vote for Lansford. 4 more years. Oh oh. That was the comment that i made, that started kyles campaign to convince evetyone that i condoned violence. (Although i also added p!ssin in alleys wasnt as important as ridding the town of the heroin problem plaguing every community in the nation) hence, his constant posting that i condone public urination. Now youre going to be lumped wth me. Sorry. You know, im such a BAD person. Yes, I think you tried many times to make it seem as if urinating in public were acceptable. The time that I remember you mentioning heroin was when you told me to stop wasting SPD's time calling on people exposing themselves in the middle of Vermillion Street to urinate, but gave me permission to call them if I see someone selling heroin. Yes, that makes me think that you do condone urinating in public. I don't feel that many people want to bring their families around that, to be able to support businesses like a movie theatre, resulting in the low attendance numbers and it being a failed, boarded up business. Yes, I do use your words to make my points.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Dec 17, 2014 8:42:12 GMT -6
Wow, there sure is a lot of interest in talking about the violence issue. It seems to be a very controversial issue here, support seems pretty evenly split as to whether or not it is acceptable or not. Willy was the one who brought it to our conversation about Due Process Constitution Rights, but obviously by all the interest, it seems the conversation of the acceptability of violence here was due. I'm kind of busy right now, so I probably won't be able to respond to everyone's comments right now, but want to thank all who do admit that it is not acceptable. No and it never should be unless you are defending yourself or family. Thank You FOT, that means a lot coming from a community leader. I assume that you are talking about defending yourself or family from violence towards them. You aren't saying that it is acceptable to use violence or the suggestion of it to defend your family when you don't like what someone has to say about them, were you? For example, I didn't like that Willy attacked my family as being guilty of something illegal (when we weren't) that made him turn his head, but I didn't suggest any violence towards him. Instead I just talked about my opinions that it is wrong. However, because he didn't like that I was talking about my opinions that it was wrong, he suggested that there wasn't enough violence directed at me. More violence in my life certainly wouldn't straighten out the problem with City leaders making public declarations that business owners are illegal without giving them a chance to provide their side of the situation. Beating other people into submission to keep them from talking about the wrong that has done is not a solution that is good for any community, in my opinion. However, everyone should remember that I am just one insignificant opinion. I have not really changed anything. It doesn't seem that our City has started doing anything differently. I am sure that people can still fight in our streets and be able to just walk away from the officer (if not the one waiting for the ambulance ride). Until enough people see the violence as being unacceptable and convince the City leaders to start doing things differently, nothing will change.
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Post by Anonymous on Dec 17, 2014 13:56:16 GMT -6
I approve of violins. I think musicians who play violins are an asset to our community. Long live violin players!
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Post by willy on Dec 17, 2014 14:39:56 GMT -6
I suggested that had you been raised in Streator when I was younger you probably would have gotten your butttamped. Had I said that the next time I see you on the street I'm going to smack you around, that would have been a violent suggestion. I haven't ever condoned the violence you suggest on here and you know it.
Having said that, I sure wish you had grown up in my neighborhood. You would have become a good boxer or a track star. Which one do you think fits you best Kyle? I think the latter cause I think your balls get bigger the more you spout off on here, but hell, you could be opening a theater in some igloo up in Alaska for all I know. Have computer, will travel.
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Post by chevypower on Dec 18, 2014 1:11:29 GMT -6
BAHHAAAA TOO FUNNY WILLY.......LOLOLOLOLO MY BET IS hE WOULD BE A PROFESSIONAL TRACK STAR LOL
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Post by toshiko on Dec 18, 2014 8:12:03 GMT -6
I approve of violins. I think musicians who play violins are an asset to our community. Long live violin players! 'Violins in school. What is wrong w/ violins in school?" Roseannadannaanna.
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Post by Anonymous on Dec 18, 2014 8:31:03 GMT -6
I approve of violins. I think musicians who play violins are an asset to our community. Long live violin players! 'Violins in school. What is wrong w/ violins in school?" Roseannadannaanna. Hehehehehe....
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Dec 18, 2014 8:45:15 GMT -6
I suggested that had you been raised in Streator when I was younger you probably would have gotten your butttamped. Had I said that the next time I see you on the street I'm going to smack you around, that would have been a violent suggestion. I haven't ever condoned the violence you suggest on here and you know it. Having said that, I sure wish you had grown up in my neighborhood. You would have become a good boxer or a track star. Which one do you think fits you best Kyle? I think the latter cause I think your balls get bigger the more you spout off on here, but hell, you could be opening a theater in some igloo up in Alaska for all I know. Have computer, will travel. What was suggested vs. what was said? That is an interesting angle to explore. This is what was said: If you had gone to school in Streator, you might have been treated like a Timex watch. You said "school", but now are claiming that you suggested being "raised in Streator"? Your recent post suggests to me that you are now trying to back pedal out of ever having said school. Are you suggesting that way being raised in Streator taught you more about throwing punches than standing behind what you say (or admitting that it is wrong) and "suggesting" that you said something else is better? What next, will you say that your suggestion was really only about the kids who didn't go to school? Is there a big difference? Isn't making such suggestions about violence and individuals deciding who deserves the beat downs being acceptable in our community, which includes our schools, really the same thing? Do you realize that when you would have "been younger" and "probably have butttamped me", I would have been younger too? A few years younger than you, right? Are you suggesting that when you were younger, you went around suggesting that the younger kids in your neighborhood had illegal families (when they didn't) and when they said that it wasn't true and didn't think it was fair that you say that, you forced them to either throw punches or have to run away from you all the time? We aren't younger or in the 50's and 60's though are we? We are adults in a time and age where most of society sees violence in our communities as unacceptable. Still though that doesn't seem to stop you from suggesting it, as if it is a solution to a modern day problem. We were only talking about Due Process Constitutional Rights that every citizen in this country should be able to enjoy. How would suggesting that you didn't think there had been enough violence in my life solve you not liking that I don't think it was unfair of you to attack my family like that? If you carry that just a little further, what does a suggestion that a City leader claiming that the problem is that there hasn't been enough violence in my life, suggest as a possible solution? Is that really the way that adults who were raised in Streator feel people who talk about what their City leaders have done should be treated? Do I really have to let it go and accept that I either I allow the City to claim my family is illegal multiple times when we are not or have them suggest violence towards me? Doesn't that just encourage more of their repressive unfair actions? Should people of Streator be threatened into submission with suggestions of violence towards them from City leaders when they think they should be allowed their Constitutional Civil Rights? I think Streator has many people who do not feel that way; just my opinion though, and obviously there are some who feel otherwise. What are you suggesting with the Alaska comment? When you were younger if you couldn't catch kids that voiced their opinion that it was unfair of you to tell people that their family was illegal, would the Alaska comment be like you starting a chant about them being some scaredy-cat/chicken? As we discussed, we are not in the 50's & 60's anymore, we have computers, the internet and social media that have made communication much more convenient; we are now able to further discuss situations without being in the same school or neighborhood (or violence being involved). You aren't suggesting that being raised in Streator has taught you more about throwing punches than communicating civilly with people, are you? I am not running anywhere. I am right here standing behind what I have to say. I would think and hope that our schools and society has progressed since the 50's and 60's. However, your comments suggest to me that open dialogue about the acceptability of violence was due and should continue.
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Post by willy on Dec 18, 2014 9:01:06 GMT -6
Others have told me I should quit trying to explain anything to you on this forum. You continue to manipulate and give intent that nobody else sees or believes. Now the most important person, my wife, tells me to quit interacting with you because of your foolishness and I think I'm going to listen to her. So wherever you're at, it will be fine for me if you stay there.
There are a lot of good people on here that post some good things. If and when I see something that I can offer, I will, but it will not be directed towards you anymore. You're not worth it.
So long Kyle Mitchell.
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Post by Anonymous on Dec 18, 2014 16:59:42 GMT -6
You continue to manipulate and give intent that nobody else sees or believes. So true.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Dec 19, 2014 5:46:12 GMT -6
Others have told me I should quit trying to explain anything to you on this forum. You continue to manipulate and give intent that nobody else sees or believes. Now the most important person, my wife, tells me to quit interacting with you because of your foolishness and I think I'm going to listen to her. So wherever you're at, it will be fine for me if you stay there. There are a lot of good people on here that post some good things. If and when I see something that I can offer, I will, but it will not be directed towards you anymore. You're not worth it. So long Kyle Mitchell. I didn't really expect that you would stick around and actually answer the questions that your comments raised. Do you really think that I manipulate and give intent that nobody else sees? I think that I have only been stating my opinions about your suggestions that I deserve some kind of physical beat down because you don't like what I have to say. I think that your not answering my questions to explain to me how you think that violence being a solution to what you don't like is an appropriate message for a City leader to send, is what made me look further into your intent. We wouldn't even be here if you hadn't come out publicly attacking my entire family by spreading some untrue rumors that we were guilty of breaking laws, would we? Does it make you feel good to wrongly attack my family? Did you not expect that I would stand up and say that it was wrong? I think it is a shame that our City leaders see no problem in publicly attacking people without even bothering to get the facts first and then refuse to answer questions about it. I think it is a shame that a City leader would suggest that it is acceptable for just any individual to decide who deserves punishment, much less some kind of beat down. I think it is a shame that any City leader would ever even suggest violence as a solution to any situation that they don't like. I think it is a shame that any City leader would suggest that kids here should need to feel that they either need to be able to run fast or be subjected to the violence of others. I think it is also a shame that there has been a trend across our country of such tragic results of violence in schools. I really think that it is a shame that so many people here see violence as being so acceptable.
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