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Post by helencrump on Dec 15, 2014 23:11:40 GMT -6
Google reviews 2.2 34 reviews Robert Milam Robert Milam 2 weeks ago This place has seriously gone down hill. I get that we live in a smaller rural community, but when half your staff are your relatives and simply don't give a crap cuz they know you won't fire them. it really reflects on your business. The seats are uncomfortable. the bathrooms are always filthy, the concessions are over prices and the concession area is dirty. And most recently I have had my movie interrupted not once but twice because of people "triple parking" in the parking lot and blocking people in, mainly because there are no lines painted in the parking lot. As much as you charge for popcorn, you would think you could afford a can of paint. When I mentioned that the parking lot should be painted, the VERY rude woman at the ticket booth told me "COMMON SENSE SIR< COMMON SENSE" Is this how you should treat someone after dropping 21 dollars on a movie ticket, a coke and some cold popcorn? ^^^ I googled the ky movie "Palace" in Elizabethtown. Out of 34 reviews, they have a 2.2 rating. Maybe there's excesive bar violence and public urination going on there, too. Why don't you try posting more reviews of theatres that I've never even been to? Do you think that will show people that I am just some terrible person who never deserved any Constitutional Rights or support from our City? Will reviews of other people's theatres make the Majestic any less of a boarded up failure (just months after receiving $130,000.00 in public donations to save it)? Regardless of your involvement in the above theater or not, it goes to show that in that town, with only one theater, they only have a 2.2 satisfaction and most of the reviews stated the same complaints that have been voiced about the Majestic. But not one mention of bar violence or public urination, or negative town reputation keeping people away. So, if other towns theaters are all experiencing the same lack of patronage that the maestic suffered, without those negatives, its not statistically correct to say that the majestic failed for reasons different than the rest. And most people see that, even though you dont. On another note, I was driving through Champaign today, and was noting all of the vacant businesses in the downtown area. Cant be the economy, must be bar violence.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Dec 16, 2014 6:44:25 GMT -6
Why don't you try posting more reviews of theatres that I've never even been to? Do you think that will show people that I am just some terrible person who never deserved any Constitutional Rights or support from our City? Will reviews of other people's theatres make the Majestic any less of a boarded up failure (just months after receiving $130,000.00 in public donations to save it)? Regardless of your involvement in the above theater or not, it goes to show that in that town, with only one theater, they only have a 2.2 satisfaction and most of the reviews stated the same complaints that have been voiced about the Majestic. But not one mention of bar violence or public urination, or negative town reputation keeping people away. So, if other towns theaters are all experiencing the same lack of patronage that the maestic suffered, without those negatives, its not statistically correct to say that the majestic failed for reasons different than the rest. And most people see that, even though you dont. On another note, I was driving through Champaign today, and was noting all of the vacant businesses in the downtown area. Cant be the economy, must be bar violence. Really helen? I hadn't heard about there being a problem with people blocking each other in in the parking lot at the Majestic. I thought that the Majestic had the lowest concession prices of any theatre around. I don't remember seeing any reviews or posts like that for the Majestic. Are other towns really experiencing the same lack of patronage that the Majestic did? Really? Willy talked about being the only ones in the theatre, did they bring three cars so that they could triple park and block each other in? If there is such a parking problem in Elizabethtown, it doesn't sound to me like they are suffering a lack of patronage. Gee with so much patronage to create parking problems that they routinely have to stop the show for and ours being boarded up, I'm glad that you pointed out the lack of bar violence there as a differentiating factor. I was in Champaign on Saturday. I thought I could get a quick burger at Five Guys, but the line was to the door. I've been reading articles about the economy getting better, home markets recovering, etc. Isn't the fed even talking about raising interest rates? It seems that the economy is improving many other places. BTW, personally, I don't really put much weight in anything that greek says. Nice try on attempting to recover, I don't think it really worked though.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Dec 16, 2014 6:53:12 GMT -6
Why must you continue to use violence as the cause for the Majestic closing? Because I am convinced that it is a factor that keeps people and their money away from the place resulting in the poor attendance. I had a lot invested there and tried hard to promote it to not lose that investment. I know first hand from people's responses that it did hurt the business. Folks leaving the theater at the time that all the so called violence and urinating were adults, not children as you claim. For you to make the claim that it happened during daylight hours is hard to accept. I was there every day and lived across the street, I know a lot of what happened on those streets. I certainly didn't sere you out there checking ID's of people going into the theatre every night. Is there some type of curfew that children aren't allowed out after dark, leaving only the Sunday matinees for them to go to? Get serious Willy, in order to ever having a chance of surviving the theatre needed to depend on people being willing to bring their kids out after dark to see a show. Yes, they do happen during daylight hours too. Would you like me to post some video? A fight involving bar people, but closer to the theatre than the bar, while the Majestic is open maybe? How about the prevailing wage, tax payer funded road worker urinating in the middle of the alley? Do you really claim that you know better than I do what has happened out on that street? I certainly wouldn't pretend to know what happens on the street you live on. Had the theater stayed open long enough to use the new projectors, the theater still was going to close because the numbers weren't there to keep it open. I agree. The number weren't there because there are too many people who will just not go to downtown Streator and like you suggest, would not bring their kids out after dark, to support the theatre because of the bar violence that some City leaders not only support, but promote. No business can stay open, no matter how hard you try, no matter how nice the atmosphere is, that's just my opinion. I agree. That is why I am so passionate to have these problems cleaned up. So that Streator can have the chance to have a better atmosphere downtown that more people might feel comfortable to bring their kids around more often, even after dark. Nobody in there right mind is going to work that many hours and not take money home to pay the bills. Is that another of your judgements against someone else? You really fancy yourself being some kind of psychologist, know all about everyone, don't you? I was upset with Katie for quite a while because she was part of a group that worked hard to convince my family to come here to open the Majestic. She could have put the money and hard work into bringing it up to condition to be opened. As we worked hard for months and months, she wasn't there helping out, but she was right there after Tim asked us to leave to make way for the "big money people from Pennsylvania" who were supposedly going to save the place. After seeing Katie drive over from Ottawa for years and years, seeing how few cars were there, I started to have some respect for her. I am convinced that her heart was into it. After taking the $130,000.00 in donations, I think she would have suffered through paying for Tim's theatre for several more years with not enough business to pay the bills, even if she had to add a few home sales commissions to the Stone Soup. By locking her out, Tim really did let her off the hook, in my opinion. I bet she is really enjoying her evenings and weekends at home now. The place wasn't costing Tim much at all while she was in there. Obviously it wasn't his financial position he was looking after by locking her out. Obviously from his asking price, he is not really interested in selling at all. I predict that the for sale signs come down at the six month point. It's truly a shame that you had a tough time in the business, but I'm not certain you really did your homework. I tried to do my homework. A community this size should be able to support a theatre. I looked at the City's made up crime statistics and watched the police log in the newspaper to see what happens here. If the newspaper had not done the special article about the excessive bar violence numbers here, how many of those incidents would someone doing their homework be able to find? The mugging that I witnessed, but the police couldn't take the eyewitness report because they had to tend to the fight in front of the bar is not in those numbers. I know that the victim told his friends about it (I heard them talking about initiating some group vigilante violence consequences for the offenders) and I bet they told their friends about it too. People who live in the area do know what goes on here. Since the City obviously works hard to try to hide what happens here, unless people live in the area, they do not have access to the truth about what does happen here to be able to do their homework properly. It doesn't seem that too many local people are jumping to open businesses here. But, please stop blaming this city for the closure. The City is the only one who can control these incidents to keep them form destroying the market for other businesses in our community. Some City leaders even promote the violence as being acceptable.
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Post by rukidding (towns local troll) on Dec 16, 2014 8:04:21 GMT -6
Because I am convinced that it is a factor that keeps people and their money away from the place resulting in the poor attendance. I had a lot invested there and tried hard to promote it to not lose that investment. I know first hand from people's responses that it did hurt the business. JUST SO YOU KNOW. The Fights and Drinking didn't keep ME from going to see a Movie at The Majestic. It was WHO was RUNNING IT. Jim and Katie. That and what it costs as a FAMILY to go out and see a Movie. You can RENT a Movie for LESS than $4.00. Sorry You feel as if YOU must continue defending The Majestic or anything else in this Town.
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Post by Anonymous on Dec 16, 2014 10:20:43 GMT -6
Fights and drinking didn't keep me away from it, either. There just hasn't been a movie made that I couldn't wait to see until it came out on DVD. The last movie I did see at The Majestic was Godzilla at the request of my son. The only thing that annoyed me that night was the pre-teen boy and his annoying father in the row ahead of us being loud throughout it. They reminded me why I like to watch movies at home.
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Post by dog on Dec 16, 2014 10:35:49 GMT -6
I hadn't heard about there being a problem with people blocking each other in in the parking lot at the Majestic. I thought that the Majestic had the lowest concession prices of any theatre around. I don't remember seeing any reviews or posts like that for the Majestic. Do you remember seeing any reviews that told people to stay away or not to go there because of the bar fights or public urinations, either?
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Post by dumdave on Dec 16, 2014 11:05:03 GMT -6
Here is a real problem for the movie industry. My wife, using a Kindle, watched Armistad last night while laying in bed before she turned out the lights and went to sleep.
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Post by Anonymous on Dec 16, 2014 11:30:56 GMT -6
Here is a real problem for the movie industry. My wife, using a Kindle, watched Armistad last night while laying in bed before she turned out the lights and went to sleep. Exactly. Now, my oldest son is a huge movie guy. He goes to the movies weekly where he lives. He prefers to see them on the big screen. (He also goes to Carbo's when he is in town. He has experienced no problems while there either. I wonder since he is visiting if that makes him a tourist?)
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Post by helencrump on Dec 16, 2014 11:42:20 GMT -6
Yes, Anon, kyle said so. The tourist that kyle speaks of being beaten, used to live here, and was home visiting family. Although when my 3 tourists bring their families to visit, i announce to everyone that they're coming home
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Post by helencrump on Dec 16, 2014 12:14:50 GMT -6
Regardless of your involvement in the above theater or not, it goes to show that in that town, with only one theater, they only have a 2.2 satisfaction and most of the reviews stated the same complaints that have been voiced about the Majestic. But not one mention of bar violence or public urination, or negative town reputation keeping people away. So, if other towns theaters are all experiencing the same lack of patronage that the maestic suffered, without those negatives, its not statistically correct to say that the majestic failed for reasons different than the rest. And most people see that, even though you dont. On another note, I was driving through Champaign today, and was noting all of the vacant businesses in the downtown area. Cant be the economy, must be bar violence. Really helen? I hadn't heard about there being a problem with people blocking each other in in the parking lot at the Majestic. I thought that the Majestic had the lowest concession prices of any theatre around. I don't remember seeing any reviews or posts like that for the Majestic. Are other towns really experiencing the same lack of patronage that the Majestic did? Really? Willy talked about being the only ones in the theatre, did they bring three cars so that they could triple park and block each other in? If there is such a parking problem in Elizabethtown, it doesn't sound to me like they are suffering a lack of patronage. Gee with so much patronage to create parking problems that they routinely have to stop the show for and ours being boarded up, I'm glad that you pointed out the lack of bar violence there as a differentiating factor. I was in Champaign on Saturday. I thought I could get a quick burger at Five Guys, but the line was to the door. I've been reading articles about the economy getting better, home markets recovering, etc. Isn't the fed even talking about raising interest rates? It seems that the economy is improving many other places. BTW, personally, I don't really put much weight in anything that greek says. Nice try on attempting to recover, I don't think it really worked though. No recovery needed. I never said you worked there. I SAID "maybe they HEARD the magager worked in streator and were afraid" you had mentioned before that streators reputation was far reaching after all. You're correct that parking complaints regarding the majestic wasnt about triple parking, or on a review. They were in the thread about Ace Hardware towing non hardware patrons from their parking lot. And someone mentioned not having a close, easy access for handicapped movie goers that couldnt walk long distances. That was also on here. Someone mentioned the mold smell. That would fall into the category of the Elizabethtown reviews on lack of cleanliness. You say that the concessions were the ceapest in the area. That doesnt mean they were affordable, just cheaper than the rest of the highly inflated prices. I also never said there were no stores, eateries etc in Champaign. I said, i noticed vacant ones. In the downtown. They have a very nice mall. But, the downtown is not full. And they sit among the junction of 3 interstates, have a university, jr college, 2 hospitals, distribution centers, yada yada yada. I actually ate at Olive garden. Got there at noon, no line, and place was less than a third full. 10 days from Christmas.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Dec 17, 2014 8:24:21 GMT -6
Yes, Anon, kyle said so. The tourist that kyle speaks of being beaten, used to live here, and was home visiting family. Although when my 3 tourists bring their families to visit, i announce to everyone that they're coming home Does it make it more acceptable that it was a person who has family members right here in Streator? I heard from a friend of the tourist that he was leaving the bar when being attacked with some type of weapon and the responding officer made a comment about him being on someone else's turf. Since almost a week later the State's Attorney's office responding to a letter from me, called to ask for more information because SPD couldn't find the report, it seems that it was going to be one of the many hidden crimes here that people trying to do their "homework on the market" to open a business wouldn't find, Does that reassure you that if something happened while other tourists were here, that there would be consequences for the offenders? Perhaps if I were to post the photo of the badly beaten tourist, so that you could imagine how other tourists might look after coming home to visit family, it might make a difference to you? Should a visit home include hospitalization? That tourist seemed to have a very prominent Streator name. Is that family just not liked in Streator either? Isn't this what we should expect if people are going to make it seem acceptable for individuals to decide who deserves attitude adjustments?
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Post by Solitaire on Dec 18, 2014 12:41:14 GMT -6
I see Roxy in Ottawa made the newspaper for cancelling the Interview--sure sounds like a fiasco with that movie.
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Post by helencrump on Dec 19, 2014 8:07:10 GMT -6
Yes, Anon, kyle said so. The tourist that kyle speaks of being beaten, used to live here, and was home visiting family. Although when my 3 tourists bring their families to visit, i announce to everyone that they're coming home Does it make it more acceptable that it was a person who has family members right here in Streator? I heard from a friend of the tourist that he was leaving the bar when being attacked with some type of weapon and the responding officer made a comment about him being on someone else's turf. Since almost a week later the State's Attorney's office responding to a letter from me, called to ask for more information because SPD couldn't find the report, it seems that it was going to be one of the many hidden crimes here that people trying to do their "homework on the market" to open a business wouldn't find, Does that reassure you that if something happened while other tourists were here, that there would be consequences for the offenders? Perhaps if I were to post the photo of the badly beaten tourist, so that you could imagine how other tourists might look after coming home to visit family, it might make a difference to you? Should a visit home include hospitalization? That tourist seemed to have a very prominent Streator name. Is that family just not liked in Streator either? Isn't this what we should expect if people are going to make it seem acceptable for individuals to decide who deserves attitude adjustments? I thought you said once that the guy involved in this fight wasnt chraged?
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Post by capncrunch on Apr 29, 2015 17:21:35 GMT -6
Foreclosure proceedings are under way against the shuttered Majestic Theater in Streator.
The theater, at 121-25 N. Vermillion St., closed Aug. 25. The owner, Tim Burke of Los Angeles, then listed the property for sale at $267,000.
According to court documents, Burke took a $229,000 mortgage with First Farmers Bank & Trust in April 2006 for the property, but has missed payments since August, owing about $130,000 with $21 interest accruing daily. The bank filed for foreclosure in February. If a judge orders foreclosure, the bank takes the property.
The bank is also trying to foreclose on a theater owned by Burke, James Troccoli and Kathryn Troccoli in Charleston. Kathryn Troccoli also managed the Majestic Theater for Burke.
Burke could not be reached for comment; Troccoli declined comment Wednesday. Last summer, Troccoli told The Times she made an offer to Burke to buy the building for what she believed it would be appraised for and he declined.
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Post by greekgod on Apr 29, 2015 19:49:03 GMT -6
Foreclosure proceedings are under way against the shuttered Majestic Theater in Streator. The theater, at 121-25 N. Vermillion St., closed Aug. 25. The owner, Tim Burke of Los Angeles, then listed the property for sale at $267,000. According to court documents, Burke took a $229,000 mortgage with First Farmers Bank & Trust in April 2006 for the property, but has missed payments since August, owing about $130,000 with $21 interest accruing daily. The bank filed for foreclosure in February. If a judge orders foreclosure, the bank takes the property. The bank is also trying to foreclose on a theater owned by Burke, James Troccoli and Kathryn Troccoli in Charleston. Kathryn Troccoli also managed the Majestic Theater for Burke. Burke could not be reached for comment; Troccoli declined comment Wednesday. Last summer, Troccoli told The Times she made an offer to Burke to buy the building for what she believed it would be appraised for and he declined. capncruch, How will Steator ever survive economically without the "Majestic Theater". Oh, wait we have, and we're growing and moving forward. A big thank you to the Streator Mayor and elected City Council Members (past and present) for getting us through "CRISIS" of the closing of the "Majestic Theater" g
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