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Post by seaturtle43 in hostile forum on May 13, 2014 8:12:01 GMT -6
How exactly do you know that the dr is not doing surgery because you have medicaid? Did the dr actually tell you this?
The ER does NOT refuse anyone based on type of insurance or none at all. That's BS.
People complain about the high charges for ER services, well thank everyone who goes there for NON emergency reasons . I know people running there with every sniffle, cough, earache, normal fever etc.. Those are not emergencies.
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Post by capncrunch on May 13, 2014 8:13:05 GMT -6
Good Point. Maybe I need to phrase this way. Maybe the government needs a reality check themselves in order to realize that something has to change.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2014 9:30:52 GMT -6
How many people were turned away under the old system Greek.Care to give me some figures... JimB, And who pays now Greek. All I see has happened is there has been a great expansion of government.. I doubt if anyone was "turned away", but guess who paid? g
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Post by capncrunch on May 13, 2014 9:44:54 GMT -6
How exactly do you know that the dr is not doing surgery because you have medicaid? Did the dr actually tell you this? The ER does NOT refuse anyone based on type of insurance or none at all. That's BS. People complain about the high charges for ER services, well thank everyone who goes there for NON emergency reasons . I know people running there with every sniffle, cough, earache, normal fever etc.. Those are not emergencies. It is not a rocket science to figure out the reason. And no the dr did not state the reason was because of Medicaid. Why would he admit to that. It could be a law suit on his part. And yes The ER is refusing people. Maybe not as noctiicable to yeah or you are not hearing about it. But it is happening to people. I've heard a few people that had to go to the er and had medicaid and was told to go some where else. State is broke and can not pay for all these Medicaid visits and hospitals and dr. know that.
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Post by wrecked2 on May 13, 2014 12:00:55 GMT -6
Maybe they are being turned down because they are there for a NON EMERGENCY visit due to them not having to pay for services in the ER if they receive Medicaid! Ie: Toothache, runny nose, sore throat. Some people on Medicaid tend to abuse the services at the ER.
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Post by oldtimer on May 13, 2014 13:15:12 GMT -6
I think the government needs to step in as far as jobs are concern. I am talking about how the work places cut down to only hiring part time just to save on paying benefits. On one hand it sucks because now people have to work two part time jobs just to be able to pay bills and yet have to do without medical help or help with paying for food or loose the pride and not work just to get help with receiving the medical card and link. Forget where I read this at, but I read where down the line the government is going to completely do away with the link card unless the person is on disability. I've talked to a few people just in Streator area alone that link was cut majorly or completely cut and they don't have the means to buy groceries. And a few of those do work but still needs the help. So it will even get worse for people all over unless the government can get jobs going in the United states, not just around our area. Companies are cutting back because the government keeps screwing them over with more mandates and laws, etc. Now, you want the government to help find you a job? Keep the government out of everything. Less government is the answer! NOT MORE! People relying on the government for everything is not healthy, yet those who have relied on the government their entire lives do not know any other way. If the stupid president wouldn't have worked out this stupid health care plan things would be different! The problem is it's the government getting more and more involved in our lives and that's not good! This is the United States. The land of opportunity. That means make your own opportunity... not rely on the government. People complain that they are not getting the health care they are used to receiving and they blame the government because they are cutting back on the link card or whatever in the hell they call it these days. The government is all of us. What more can we give you? I'm tired of working myassoff and carrying people who are able bodied, but don't want to work.
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Post by Val on May 13, 2014 16:46:12 GMT -6
hows that hope and change working for everyone.. plus don't forget we have to pass it to find out whats in it. This is so true! Hope & Change!!!
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on May 14, 2014 15:39:52 GMT -6
People complain about the high charges for ER services, well thank everyone who goes there for NON emergency reasons . I know people running there with every sniffle, cough, earache, normal fever etc.. Those are not emergencies. Actually you have that backwards, the more chargeable time, the cheaper the cost to the ultimate consumer. The problem lies with the fact that those folks running in with the sniffles, etc, don't have insurance and those of us who do subsidize it. If everyone paid equally, we all would get a fair shake, and people would not run to the ER for the sniffles.
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Post by greekgod on May 14, 2014 16:33:18 GMT -6
People complain about the high charges for ER services, well thank everyone who goes there for NON emergency reasons . I know people running there with every sniffle, cough, earache, normal fever etc.. Those are not emergencies. Actually you have that backwards, the more chargeable time, the cheaper the cost to the ultimate consumer. The problem lies with the fact that those folks running in with the sniffles, etc, don't have insurance and those of us who do subsidize it. If everyone paid equally, we all would get a fair shake, and people would not run to the ER for the sniffles. Sniper, There you go! Who can ensure that all pays equally? g
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Post by rocket on May 14, 2014 16:49:47 GMT -6
If dr's would stop refusing to accept people on Medicaid,there would be lesser people running to the er. But since dr's are refusing to accept people on Medicaid,the er is the only place they can go to,to get medical help.
Unless the area hospitals and the gov't come together and start putting up free clinics and dr's agree to volunteer free service a few hours a month,and at the same time the gov't give hospitals and medical staff huge tax breaks in return of them giving free medical service.
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Post by greekgod on May 14, 2014 17:10:34 GMT -6
If dr's would stop refusing to accept people on Medicaid,there would be lesser people running to the er. But since dr's are refusing to accept people on Medicaid,the er is the only place they can go to,to get medical help. Unless the area hospitals and the gov't come together and start putting up free clinics and dr's agree to volunteer free service a few hours a month,and at the same time the gov't give hospitals and medical staff huge tax breaks in return of them giving free medical service. Rocket, The "ball is in you court". Name the M.D.'s in Streator that DO NOT accept Medicaid. Your statement is bogus. g
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Post by seaturtle43 in hostile forum on May 14, 2014 17:14:21 GMT -6
I would say most of the people doing this are on medicaid , that pays a much lower amount of the charges and people who don't have any at all and pay none. Not sure how that helps lower the cost... People complain about the high charges for ER services, well thank everyone who goes there for NON emergency reasons . I know people running there with every sniffle, cough, earache, normal fever etc.. Those are not emergencies. Actually you have that backwards, the more chargeable time, the cheaper the cost to the ultimate consumer. The problem lies with the fact that those folks running in with the sniffles, etc, don't have insurance and those of us who do subsidize it. If everyone paid equally, we all would get a fair shake, and people would not run to the ER for the sniffles.
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Post by greekgod on May 14, 2014 17:41:20 GMT -6
I would say most of the people doing this are on medicaid , that pays a much lower amount of the charges and people who don't have any at all and pay none. Not sure how that helps lower the cost... Actually you have that backwards, the more chargeable time, the cheaper the cost to the ultimate consumer. The problem lies with the fact that those folks running in with the sniffles, etc, don't have insurance and those of us who do subsidize it. If everyone paid equally, we all would get a fair shake, and people would not run to the ER for the sniffles. seaturtle43 Is there a question there somewhere? Sniper's statement was correct in my opinion. "...folks running in with the sniffles, etc. don't have insurance and those of us who do subsidize it." Those with insurance, through their employer, self-insured or, covered by Medicare or Medicaid (thank a Democrat LBJ!) ; those not covered chose not to be because, those who are responsible subsidize the irresponsible. Right Snipe? g
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Post by rocket on May 14, 2014 19:22:20 GMT -6
If dr's would stop refusing to accept people on Medicaid,there would be lesser people running to the er. But since dr's are refusing to accept people on Medicaid,the er is the only place they can go to,to get medical help. Unless the area hospitals and the gov't come together and start putting up free clinics and dr's agree to volunteer free service a few hours a month,and at the same time the gov't give hospitals and medical staff huge tax breaks in return of them giving free medical service. Rocket, The "ball is in you court". Name the M.D.'s in Streator that DO NOT accept Medicaid. Your statement is bogus. g www.forbes.com/sites/peterubel/2013/08/20/attention-medicaid-patients-the-doctor-wont-be-seeing-you/
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Post by greekgod on May 14, 2014 21:51:31 GMT -6
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