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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Feb 20, 2014 16:33:41 GMT -6
You really don't have a good handle on the law, yet you come on this website and act like you do. If someone would break a window at the police department that would be criminal damage to state supported land which is a no no. I have a handle on the law in the real world, I just don't have the Good O Boy Club Secret Law Decoder Ring for Streator. You know, the one that makes the First Amendment of the Constitution read, "as long as Mayor Lansford agrees with what you want to talk about". Do you want some more examples of it's power? Maybe I should have been clearer for you. I didn't mean an SPD window, I meant in front of an officer.
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Post by rocket on Feb 20, 2014 16:34:34 GMT -6
FYI my son years ago was transported to Peoria with a skull fracture that was life threatening. I'm a little sensitive to it. You could have just asked how I would feel if anyone lost their life. I would feel bad for anyone who loses a life senselessly. When I ran for mayor I said that the council and police dept needed to be held accountable and we needed more law enforcement. You were at the forum. Have you forgotten that? I said we needed a new police chief. I'm not happy with a lot of things that go in this town. But complaining about it doesn't change anything. I've ran for council twice. I've campaigned that we need to get tougher on drugs. We need more enforcement. We need to be proactive. The licquor commission needs to get tougher. Join with me and others and run for council to make that change happen. Actions speak louder than words. And no, fighting is not acceptable and legal. My comments didn't say that. You took it that way. The officers I talked to said it is a tough thing to get a disorderly conduct charge to stick. It's not as easy to make the arrest as you would like to think it is. Sorry that you lost,But it seems the majority of people in this town love the lacking police enforcement we have that love to turn their heads when someone is breaking the law. In order to change this town,we need people in this town that is wanting the same thing that the person running for office wants. You can't get away with anything in Ottawa,that police force is very strict and have seen someone over there get ticketed for jaywalking ,Something our police force chooses not to enforce. I agree fot,we do need a better police force to do their jobs in cleaning up this town better.
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Post by rocket on Feb 20, 2014 16:36:25 GMT -6
Think of how much more revenue the city would make if they let and force our officers to do their jobs.
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Post by oldtimer on Feb 20, 2014 17:11:27 GMT -6
You really don't have a good handle on the law, yet you come on this website and act like you do. If someone would break a window at the police department that would be criminal damage to state supported land which is a no no. I have a handle on the law in the real world, I just don't have the Good O Boy Club Secret Law Decoder Ring for Streator. You know, the one that makes the First Amendment of the Constitution read, "as long as Mayor Lansford agrees with what you want to talk about". Do you want some more examples of it's power? Maybe I should have been clearer for you. I didn't mean an SPD window, I meant in front of an officer. You don't have a handle on the law or business. Your short sightedness s is evident in many of your posts.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Feb 25, 2014 7:03:10 GMT -6
Action can not be taken if it wasn't previously discussed at a meeting. Do you still stand behind this statement? Is there a law that requires this? If they were representing the citizens of Streator, there would have been a chance for the public to comment. There was no talk of any increased enforcement to handle the problems around the bars we have now. Now they are just adding to the problems.
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Post by dog on Feb 25, 2014 12:38:45 GMT -6
Action can not be taken if it wasn't previously discussed at a meeting. Do you still stand behind this statement? Is there a law that requires this? If they were representing the citizens of Streator, there would have been a chance for the public to comment. There was no talk of any increased enforcement to handle the problems around the bars we have now. Now they are just adding to the problems. Don't we have an attorney that attends these meetings and advises the council on what is legal and what is illegal? If it was a law, wouldn't he advise the council that they are not allowed to take action?
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Post by oldtimer on Feb 25, 2014 13:55:54 GMT -6
Action can not be taken if it wasn't previously discussed at a meeting. Do you still stand behind this statement? Is there a law that requires this? If they were representing the citizens of Streator, there would have been a chance for the public to comment. There was no talk of any increased enforcement to handle the problems around the bars we have now. Now they are just adding to the problems. You have no clue how to work with people to get things done. You coming on here and making the statements you made is not getting anything done. It's not being productive. Do you know how to be productive and work with people to accomplish things? You don't. Otherwise you wouldn't have made this post. It shows once again that you have no business sense.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Feb 25, 2014 15:03:25 GMT -6
Do you still stand behind this statement? Is there a law that requires this? If they were representing the citizens of Streator, there would have been a chance for the public to comment. There was no talk of any increased enforcement to handle the problems around the bars we have now. Now they are just adding to the problems. Don't we have an attorney that attends these meetings and advises the council on what is legal and what is illegal? If it was a law, wouldn't he advise the council that they are not allowed to take action? Yes, we have an attorney that looks out for the City's best interests, not the public. It was the City that did not want to hear any discussion on this issue, so why would the attorney stick up for the public's rights? The First Amendment is a law, but the attorney didn't stop them from denying use of the park just because they don't like the subject to be discussed.
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Post by dog on Feb 25, 2014 15:27:13 GMT -6
Don't we have an attorney that attends these meetings and advises the council on what is legal and what is illegal? If it was a law, wouldn't he advise the council that they are not allowed to take action? Yes, we have an attorney that looks out for the City's best interests, not the public. It was the City that did not want to hear any discussion on this issue, so why would the attorney stick up for the public's rights? The First Amendment is a law, but the attorney didn't stop them from denying use of the park just because they don't like the subject to be discussed. I would think that the attorney would speak up to prevent the city from having any legal actions brought against them.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Feb 25, 2014 16:09:20 GMT -6
Do you still stand behind this statement? Is there a law that requires this? If they were representing the citizens of Streator, there would have been a chance for the public to comment. There was no talk of any increased enforcement to handle the problems around the bars we have now. Now they are just adding to the problems. You have no clue how to work with people to get things done. You coming on here and making the statements you made is not getting anything done. It's not being productive. Do you know how to be productive and work with people to accomplish things? You don't. Otherwise you wouldn't have made this post. It shows once again that you have no business sense. I've managed to work with other people before and get things done. I wasn't trying to work with people to get things done this time. Is the condition Streator is in the result of you great knowledge of how to work with people to get things done? I don't feel that Streator's continually decreasing population, occupancy rate and property values is acceptable. Streator's reputation of excessive drinking and fighting that keeps many people away was just expanded by our City by increasing the number of bar licenses. They did what they wanted to without even allowing the public an opportunity to comment on it. If they aren't listening to the people, they can't be representing them. They are taking Streator in the direction of even more bars, while not controlling the problems around them, yet they are not open to hearing public opinions on it. I hope that in the future our City leaders will believe in government by the people.
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Post by job on Feb 25, 2014 18:00:24 GMT -6
Kyle's comment that "I've managed to work with other people before and get things done" must not be referring to his business flops in Arizona and Streator.
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Post by Blue Star on Feb 25, 2014 18:32:27 GMT -6
The city did NOT increase the number of bar licenses! They changed existing ones from 1 "Type" to another.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Feb 25, 2014 18:35:44 GMT -6
Kyle's comment that "I've managed to work with other people before and get things done" must not be referring to his business flops in Arizona and Streator. At least I did get things done. It took a lot of money and hard work to open the Majestic and I'm proud of it. I didn't see anyone else doing what was needed to open the theatre that had been boarded up for decades. Did you prefer it when it was closed, boarded up and needing work? What are you trying to say, that because I didn't "work" with the City, that is why the Majestic flopped? I gave them everything that they asked for and was involved. Is it because I didn't pay an initiation fee to join their club?
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Feb 25, 2014 18:38:31 GMT -6
The city did NOT increase the number of bar licenses! They changed existing ones from 1 "Type" to another. They didn't increase the total number of liquor licenses, but they did increase the number available for bars by three. There are less licenses for restaurants now.
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Post by job on Feb 25, 2014 18:46:30 GMT -6
Kyle's comment that "I've managed to work with other people before and get things done" must not be referring to his business flops in Arizona and Streator. At least I did get things done. It took a lot of money and hard work to open the Majestic and I'm proud of it. I didn't see anyone else doing what was needed to open the theatre that had been boarded up for decades. Did you prefer it when it was closed, boarded up and needing work? What are you trying to say, that because I didn't "work" with the City, that is why the Majestic flopped? I gave them everything that they asked for and was involved. Is it because I didn't pay an initiation fee to join their club? I am "trying to say" that you always blame someone else for your failures.
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