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Post by oldtimer on Nov 9, 2013 12:15:01 GMT -6
That figure was the total amount put into the machines in October. Then you take away how much was paid to those who played. Dog, it looks like you're saying that was about 1.4 million which means the actual money collected in streator was what you said, dog of $541,000. Now, the profit that dog mentioned is then divided between the state, the city, the businesses maintaining the machines for the state and the businesses that have the machines inside them. The businesses portion is based on how much was played in their business only. Look at it this way, you put $20 in the machine. You sit there a while, run your total up to $200, lose a hundred, run it up to $200 again and lose all of that but $30 and you cash out. The wagering activity would show that $400 was spent in the machine, when actually only $20 physical was spent. The $400 of wagering activity was only on paper. The actual money spent put into the machine as $20 and the actual money paid out was $30. Your analogy is exactly right!!
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Nov 10, 2013 8:20:00 GMT -6
And, quite frankly, its common courtesy to just post responses directly to the topic. We don't want to be high jacking threads, do we? Oldtimer, the person who throws around insults, calls people names, insinuates businesses will give death threats, makes other false claims that he won't stand behind, won't conform to the word game, etc., wants to talk about common courtesy. Since he thinks it is not a problem, I wonder if he thinks it is common courtesy for people to expose themselves and fight in front of customers of the Majestic. I would ask him myself, but I already know that he doesn't provide the courtesy of answering questions even though others do for him, and he will probably just disappear from the thread any way. I think his fellow club members at City Hall might also share his warped ideas of common courtesy. Do they think it is a common courtesy to make other vacant building owners jump through all kinds of hoops and threaten $750 fines each day, while they bring down property values with a building that looks like this? Is it common courtesy to make other building owners remove their signs, but allow this one to stay? Is it common courtesy to have a huge hole and other access points to a fire hazard of a dangerous building? Even after being pointed out they just leave it in that condition. Forget common courtesy, does this building and its owners follow our laws? Thanks Oldtimer, for being so critical of my building to get us all looking around at others. Do they also think that it is common courtesy to call people illegal when they are not and to give out extreme restrictions that do not even follow our laws? Since our City does not follow our laws, it is time for new leaders.
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Post by oldtimer on Nov 10, 2013 11:30:56 GMT -6
And, quite frankly, its common courtesy to just post responses directly to the topic. We don't want to be high jacking threads, do we? Oldtimer, the person who throws around insults, calls people names, insinuates businesses will give death threats, makes other false claims that he won't stand behind, won't conform to the word game, etc., wants to talk about common courtesy. Since he thinks it is not a problem, I wonder if he thinks it is common courtesy for people to expose themselves and fight in front of customers of the Majestic. I would ask him myself, but I already know that he doesn't provide the courtesy of answering questions even though others do for him, and he will probably just disappear from the thread any way. I think his fellow club members at City Hall might also share his warped ideas of common courtesy. Do they think it is a common courtesy to make other vacant building owners jump through all kinds of hoops and threaten $750 fines each day, while they bring down property values with a building that looks like this? Is it common courtesy to make other building owners remove their signs, but allow this one to stay? Is it common courtesy to have a huge hole and other access points to a fire hazard of a dangerous building? Even after being pointed out they just leave it in that condition. Forget common courtesy, does this building and its owners follow our laws? Thanks Oldtimer, for being so critical of my building to get us all looking around at others. Do they also think that it is common courtesy to call people illegal when they are not and to give out extreme restrictions that do not even follow our laws? Since our City does not follow our laws, it is time for new leaders. Youre not listening. I told you not to high jack threads and you are still doing it. This thread is about video gaming in illinois. I've personally tired of your nonsense and don't want to read about drunks or buildings when i open another thread and find that you have infected it, too. I will not go on and on by responding again to anything you say in this thread that is not.related to video.gaming.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Nov 10, 2013 12:46:00 GMT -6
Youre not listening. I told you not to high jack threads and you are still doing it. This thread is about video gaming in illinois. I've personally tired of your nonsense and don't want to read about drunks or buildings when i open another thread and find that you have infected it, too. I will not go on and on by responding again to anything you say in this thread that is not.related to video.gaming. Haha, what makes you think I care what you want? I'll talk about whatever I want. BTW, I still stand by my statement that started your rant here to try to stop me from saying what I want. How the revenue from the gambling could be spent does pertain to the topic of the thread. Maybe Streator can hire some more bar babysitters. I noticed that Sundays seem to be a popular day to park in front of the fire hydrant (I could post videos if you want). Is it too much trouble to walk down the street to place bets? Perhaps they could start providing free valet parking with the extra revenue. Obviously from the fights last night, they still haven't cut back on the serving or hired a bouncer.
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Post by oldtimer on Nov 10, 2013 12:49:10 GMT -6
I haven't checked the sate gaming website.
Does anyone knew what place in streator had the most money wagered in October?
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Nov 10, 2013 12:56:31 GMT -6
I haven't checked the sate gaming website. Does anyone knew what place in streator had the most money wagered in October? October of what year, and with or without the illegal gambling?
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Post by oldtimer on Nov 10, 2013 13:17:28 GMT -6
Found it!
Da-lees had $393,000 wagered in September. October numbers are not on the website yet.
That's an amazing amount of money!!
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Post by vikesfan on Nov 10, 2013 13:19:49 GMT -6
I haven't checked the sate gaming website. Does anyone knew what place in streator had the most money wagered in October? DaLees according to last nights newspaper Here is the article that accompanied that chart The number of establishments in La Salle County with state-licensed video gambling machines rose 562 percent between the end of last year and Sept. 30.As of Dec. 31, 13 establishments in the county had video machines; as of Sept. 30 — the most recent date for which state statistics are available — 86 establishments had the machines. There would have been more, but the state has denied licenses to several establishments.Ottawa and Streator each had 15 video-licensed establishments, although Ottawa had 58 machines and Streator had 56. The state permits a maximum of five machines per business. Runners-up were Peru with 10 licensed establishments and La Salle with nine. The most money played in September was at Road Ranger, just outside Ottawa, with $569,088. In second and third places were Road Ranger in Mendota with $454,512 and Dalee's in Streator with $393,216. These amounts are a total of the money players brought to the establishment in their pockets and winnings they put back into the machines.Overall, $1.9 million was played at Streator establishments in September, with City Hall receiving a $7,719 cut. In Ottawa, $1.8 million was played, with $6,741 to the city and in Peru the figure was $1.6 million played, the city raking in $6,308.Streator Mayor Jimmie Lansford said the city has received payments for the first five months of 2013, totaling $17,000, noting the payments increased as the five months went on. Lansford explained the city is receiving $150,000 annual payments for 10 years for wind turbines, and city officials at first hoped that when wind money ended, gambling revenue would replace it. However, Lansford doubts it will.Lansford noted the gambling money is not seen as "extra" money the city can use for anything, but rather is used for normal expenses. Nonetheless, Lansford is appreciative."These are dollars we wouldn't have had before," Lansford observed.Ottawa Mayor Robert Eschbach echoed Lansford's thoughts, saying the revenue to the city is "modest, but every bit helps."With his parents, Terry Muffler runs Muffy's Tap in Ottawa, which has five machines."People are on them quite a bit. They're enjoying them," Muffler said. "I don't know how much it's boosted our business, but it's brought in a few new faces."Lee Sember runs Dalee's in Streator and is equally as happy as Muffler, saying video gambling has drawn more customers to his bar-restaurant. He pointed out his business has been one of the top for video action in the county, believing part of the reason is he was one of the first to offer licensed video gambling in Streator.
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Post by oldtimer on Nov 10, 2013 13:26:50 GMT -6
I wonder how the local gaming is effecting the slots and video poker at the riverboat casinos?
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Post by no1inparticular on Nov 10, 2013 13:31:20 GMT -6
Can't get my head around the "conditions" at Dalee's to even go in there...
Makes one wonder where all of this "disposable income" is coming from...
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Post by oldtimer on Nov 10, 2013 13:43:49 GMT -6
Can't get my head around the "conditions" at Dalee's to even go in there... Makes one wonder where all of this "disposable income" is coming from... What u mean by wondering where disposable income cones from?
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Post by no1inparticular on Nov 10, 2013 13:57:53 GMT -6
Can't get my head around the "conditions" at Dalee's to even go in there... Makes one wonder where all of this "disposable income" is coming from... What u mean by wondering where disposable income cones from? What I mean is, the folks gambling that complain about not having money for their bills, etc...With the extremely high unemployment rate in Streator, one would think that the gambling numbers would be lower...
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Nov 10, 2013 13:58:28 GMT -6
I wonder how the local gaming is effecting the slots and video poker at the riverboat casinos? I wonder how the illegal gambling is effecting the non-profit groups that use it as legal fundraisers. I wonder how the illegal gambling has been able to go on for so long. I wonder if it is part of the same problems that allow other things like last night's fights, to persist. I wonder if our city leaders will ever do anything to clean up these problems.
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Post by oldtimer on Nov 10, 2013 14:01:41 GMT -6
What u mean by wondering where disposable income cones from? What I mean is, the folks gambling that complain about not having money for their bills, etc...With the extremely high unemployment rate in Streator, one would think that the gambling numbers would be lower... I'm sure most are pumping their state aid into the machines. Then there are a lot of retired people who play them.
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Post by oldtimer on Nov 10, 2013 14:08:17 GMT -6
I haven't checked the sate gaming website. Does anyone knew what place in streator had the most money wagered in October? DaLees according to last nights newspaper Here is the article that accompanied that chart The number of establishments in La Salle County with state-licensed video gambling machines rose 562 percent between the end of last year and Sept. 30.As of Dec. 31, 13 establishments in the county had video machines; as of Sept. 30 — the most recent date for which state statistics are available — 86 establishments had the machines. There would have been more, but the state has denied licenses to several establishments.Ottawa and Streator each had 15 video-licensed establishments, although Ottawa had 58 machines and Streator had 56. The state permits a maximum of five machines per business. Runners-up were Peru with 10 licensed establishments and La Salle with nine. The most money played in September was at Road Ranger, just outside Ottawa, with $569,088. In second and third places were Road Ranger in Mendota with $454,512 and Dalee's in Streator with $393,216. These amounts are a total of the money players brought to the establishment in their pockets and winnings they put back into the machines.Overall, $1.9 million was played at Streator establishments in September, with City Hall receiving a $7,719 cut. In Ottawa, $1.8 million was played, with $6,741 to the city and in Peru the figure was $1.6 million played, the city raking in $6,308.Streator Mayor Jimmie Lansford said the city has received payments for the first five months of 2013, totaling $17,000, noting the payments increased as the five months went on. Lansford explained the city is receiving $150,000 annual payments for 10 years for wind turbines, and city officials at first hoped that when wind money ended, gambling revenue would replace it. However, Lansford doubts it will.Lansford noted the gambling money is not seen as "extra" money the city can use for anything, but rather is used for normal expenses. Nonetheless, Lansford is appreciative."These are dollars we wouldn't have had before," Lansford observed.Ottawa Mayor Robert Eschbach echoed Lansford's thoughts, saying the revenue to the city is "modest, but every bit helps."With his parents, Terry Muffler runs Muffy's Tap in Ottawa, which has five machines."People are on them quite a bit. They're enjoying them," Muffler said. "I don't know how much it's boosted our business, but it's brought in a few new faces."Lee Sember runs Dalee's in Streator and is equally as happy as Muffler, saying video gambling has drawn more customers to his bar-restaurant. He pointed out his business has been one of the top for video action in the county, believing part of the reason is he was one of the first to offer licensed video gambling in Streator. Streator will get about 90k a year in gaming revenue. That's a nice little chunk of change. The way this city is cash strapped that little bit every month could help out.
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