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Post by tango11 on Apr 25, 2022 5:23:12 GMT -6
A question for somebody who’s in the know; how are Covid hospitalizations counted?
Is a Covid hospitalization counted only if it was Covid that caused the hospitalization?
For example: let’s say a person was hospitalized for kidney stones but at the same time, test positive for Covid and was asymptomatic, is that a Covid hospitalization?
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Apr 25, 2022 7:17:16 GMT -6
A question for somebody who’s in the know; how are Covid hospitalizations counted? Is a Covid hospitalization counted only if it was Covid that caused the hospitalization? For example: let’s say a person was hospitalized for kidney stones but at the same time, test positive for Covid and was asymptomatic, is that a Covid hospitalization? When you get a straight answer, let me know as well. I haven't been able to find it, buy I do find it curious they list it as hospitalized with Covid. Seems to me the people of science should strive for accuracy.............. Kind of like they list deaths as with Covid, not of covid. |
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Post by antamaleen on Apr 25, 2022 13:16:44 GMT -6
All for the hospitals to get more money from the government.... which comes from us....
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Post by darkduke on Apr 27, 2022 16:25:07 GMT -6
A question for somebody who’s in the know; how are Covid hospitalizations counted? Is a Covid hospitalization counted only if it was Covid that caused the hospitalization? For example: let’s say a person was hospitalized for kidney stones but at the same time, test positive for Covid and was asymptomatic, is that a Covid hospitalization? I know our hospital here in Florida was required to report any patient with COVID as a "COVID Hospitalization" regardless if that was the initial reason or not. The reason for this being that patients who were COVID positive had to be isolated from other patients, staff members were required to follow different PPE protocols, and visitation guidelines were different for those patients. If it was a patient that required ICU level of care, there were even stricter guidelines. In our hospital we had a unit nicknamed COVID Cove, where every COVID positive patient was admitted too. This also made it easier for those staff members who contracted COVID to be able to track who they had contact with, if they were working with a high risk patient it was covered under a different bank of time off vs. regular sick time. The problem with identifying COVID cases and deaths has always been a chicken or egg question. For example, it was well known that COVID-19 has potential of causing multi-inflammatory syndrome. Let's say you have a person that is COVID positive, has a seizure, and strikes their head on the floor They also are showing positive for MIS. A few days later they pass away from a brain bleed in the hospital. Now the question becomes did the COVID cause MIS which caused brain swelling, led to the seizure, and subsequent brain bleed? Was the seizure just a fluke and the other stuff get found as incidental? Did the patient have some other underlying condition that could of caused the seizure or been complicated by the COVID virus? One issue that we encountered within the hospital world was that people became more afraid to come to the hospital out of fear of getting sick. So for years, we were finally getting our wish, that people had quit using the emergency room and hospitals for problems better suited at urgent care and physician offices. The trade off was by the time people felt the need to come to the hospital, the acuity level of illness was higher. So we then go back to the question of was a person testing positive for COVID in ill health because of the virus or had they been sick and an already compromised immune system allowed a COVID exposure to take over? Unfortunately in medicine, we are taught to treat the path of least resistance first. So in most cases, a COVID infection will always be ruled the primary cause, regardless of subsequent illnesses or injuries. |
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Apr 28, 2022 7:21:16 GMT -6
A question for somebody who’s in the know; how are Covid hospitalizations counted? Is a Covid hospitalization counted only if it was Covid that caused the hospitalization? For example: let’s say a person was hospitalized for kidney stones but at the same time, test positive for Covid and was asymptomatic, is that a Covid hospitalization? I know our hospital here in Florida was required to report any patient with COVID as a "COVID Hospitalization" regardless if that was the initial reason or not. The reason for this being that patients who were COVID positive had to be isolated from other patients, staff members were required to follow different PPE protocols, and visitation guidelines were different for those patients. If it was a patient that required ICU level of care, there were even stricter guidelines. In our hospital we had a unit nicknamed COVID Cove, where every COVID positive patient was admitted too. This also made it easier for those staff members who contracted COVID to be able to track who they had contact with, if they were working with a high risk patient it was covered under a different bank of time off vs. regular sick time. The problem with identifying COVID cases and deaths has always been a chicken or egg question. For example, it was well known that COVID-19 has potential of causing multi-inflammatory syndrome. Let's say you have a person that is COVID positive, has a seizure, and strikes their head on the floor They also are showing positive for MIS. A few days later they pass away from a brain bleed in the hospital. Now the question becomes did the COVID cause MIS which caused brain swelling, led to the seizure, and subsequent brain bleed? Was the seizure just a fluke and the other stuff get found as incidental? Did the patient have some other underlying condition that could of caused the seizure or been complicated by the COVID virus? One issue that we encountered within the hospital world was that people became more afraid to come to the hospital out of fear of getting sick. So for years, we were finally getting our wish, that people had quit using the emergency room and hospitals for problems better suited at urgent care and physician offices. The trade off was by the time people felt the need to come to the hospital, the acuity level of illness was higher. So we then go back to the question of was a person testing positive for COVID in ill health because of the virus or had they been sick and an already compromised immune system allowed a COVID exposure to take over? Unfortunately in medicine, we are taught to treat the path of least resistance first. So in most cases, a COVID infection will always be ruled the primary cause, regardless of subsequent illnesses or injuries. And all perfectly logical, and clearly the best practice. The issue became when the Government refused to show the people as such, and used it to exert control over their behavior. Like I always said, give it to me straight Doc., I am a big boy. We could have saved so many lives if we had let this crisis go to waste, to paraphrase Rahm. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2022 20:30:20 GMT -6
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Post by dive61364 on May 8, 2022 14:34:25 GMT -6
have you read where some older people are developing blood clots from the Johnson and Johnson vaccine too Jim? when politicians have money invested in these vaccines it makes it easy for them to approve it and the FDA to approve it.
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Post by kickstand on May 8, 2022 18:57:29 GMT -6
Did you read the article Jim? It’s says that it’s not tied to the vaccines. |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2022 19:09:16 GMT -6
Did you read the article Jim? It’s says that it’s not tied to the vaccines. Yeah and if you chant real hard you can stop the rain..There are a lot of problems associated with all the vaccines . Why have none of them been fully certified and the manufacturers are still are exempt from lawsuits for injuries if they are so safe.. |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2022 7:00:19 GMT -6
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Post by rocket2 on May 14, 2022 8:56:26 GMT -6
Fauci is going down if Republicans take back house and senate.
Republicans are vowing that is the 1st thing on there list if they take back the house and Senate.
They are going after Fauci ,because they know he lied.
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Post by darkduke on May 30, 2022 15:27:54 GMT -6
Fauci is going down if Republicans take back house and senate. Republicans are vowing that is the 1st thing on there list if they take back the house and Senate. They are going after Fauci ,because they know he lied. It's amazing how many of our politicians like to brag about power they don't hold and the number of people who blindly follow it. Quite frankly, the only way Congress or the President can fire someone is if their job is a classified political appointment. He is employed as a federal employee (no different then someone in the social security office or a civilian member of the military). His firing would have to go through the proper chain of command just like in the private sector. www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/11/02/can-trump-fire-fauci/ |
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on May 31, 2022 7:15:02 GMT -6
Fauci is going down if Republicans take back house and senate. Republicans are vowing that is the 1st thing on there list if they take back the house and Senate. They are going after Fauci ,because they know he lied. It's amazing how many of our politicians like to brag about power they don't hold and the number of people who blindly follow it. Quite frankly, the only way Congress or the President can fire someone is if their job is a classified political appointment. He is employed as a federal employee (no different then someone in the social security office or a civilian member of the military). His firing would have to go through the proper chain of command just like in the private sector. www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/11/02/can-trump-fire-fauci/Far easier to put him in jail. The amount of perjury he has committed before Congress would make it a slam dunk. Even a DC jury couldn't look the other way. If he is in jail, obviously he can't be employed. |
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Post by jb on Mar 24, 2024 8:02:42 GMT -6
 Just bringing this back up because as election time draws near something will be released onto the population and it will be produced in a lab. |
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Post by JimmyB2 on Mar 28, 2024 9:04:26 GMT -6
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