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Post by helencrump on Sept 29, 2015 21:11:37 GMT -6
How long have you spent calling all over the country, trying to avoid paying the $15 processing fee? While I understand it being irksome to have to pay for it, I don't understand how people think that all the things they should be provided for free, are being paid for.
The fee has probably doubled by now, to pay for all the people employed to look into people NOT wanting to pay the fee. Lol
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2015 22:25:03 GMT -6
must be something new up at the police station. I know I had to get a police report to turn in to my insurance agent 3 years ago and it was free. tell em to get screwed...
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Post by oldtimer on Sept 30, 2015 5:51:16 GMT -6
If you read the act old timer, it says they cannot contract it away. Of course it's all in how you interpret it. I get the law... Everyone has the right TO LOOK at the records as they are public knowledge. That's just TO LOOK AT! If you need or want a copy then there is a charge. That's not illegal and I'm sure every community that is involved with this website looked into it and found that legally they can charge for copies.
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Post by dog on Sept 30, 2015 6:00:58 GMT -6
If you read the act old timer, it says they cannot contract it away. Of course it's all in how you interpret it. I get the law... Everyone has the right TO LOOK at the records as they are public knowledge. That's just TO LOOK AT! If you need or want a copy then there is a charge. That's not illegal and I'm sure every community that is involved with this website looked into it and found that legally they can charge for copies. I dont see where the option to look is even provided in this case. I am not sure that MM would even have a problem with the $15 fee, if he could receive a copy of the police report at the police station. The process doesn't appear legal since this crash report site appears to have exclusive rights to access of the reports
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Post by Anonymous on Sept 30, 2015 7:09:40 GMT -6
Pay up to Crashreport.com........... What is the actual website? That one isn't valid. It's just a domain that's parked.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 8:35:31 GMT -6
So am I to understand that like cameras at traffic lights our police reports are sold off to a third party that is raking in money in order for you to receive the report?
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Post by dog on Sept 30, 2015 11:28:26 GMT -6
I dont like to see extra taxes or fees placed on anyone, but really? I have needed ONE police report in 50 years. 15 bucks once or twice in a lifetime isnt going to change my lifestyle. Better to focus on more important issues in life.
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Post by father of two on Sept 30, 2015 17:41:42 GMT -6
Charge for a copy is acceptable. Contracting out to a third party may not be legal.
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Post by dog on Sept 30, 2015 17:50:36 GMT -6
Charge for a copy is acceptable. Contracting out to a third party may not be legal. I think the purpose was to allow for access via the web. I think the proper way for this to function is for a person to be able to get a copy at the police or online from the 3rd party.
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Post by Blue Star on Sept 30, 2015 18:19:20 GMT -6
It's the inability for MM to be able to print the report, that was the original problem!
A report needed by both parties, for Ins. should be filed online, no matter who first filed it. BOTH parties need to print it!
The PDs & site should assign a number, not a name.
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Post by antamaleen on Sept 30, 2015 18:42:18 GMT -6
Charge for a copy is acceptable. Contracting out to a third party may not be legal. I have not read everything on this. Someone mentioned to me that $5 may be the maximum allowed, which I feel would be a 'reasonable fee'. Running it exclusively through a third party website that can charge whatever they like is very wrong to me. It allows the PD deniability and say well, that isn't US collecting the fee. The only way it makes it better is for someone that CHOOSES to do it online for whatever reason. Maybe it is someone that is trying to access the information from a distance. For them it may be worthwhile. It shouldn't be the ONLY option. I believe the freedom of information act also mandates that the organization that generates the paperwork is required to have a means of storing or retrieving the paperwork that they generated. SPD claims it is all sent to the third party site and not recoverable by them. Anyway....sometimes you bite off a piece and it's too big to swallow. You spit it out or you chew on it a while. I have chewed on it a while. I am not paying for it. Neither is my agent. The other party's insurance company is. Many of you think I am the bad guy for trying to fight what I feel is wrong. Time to spit it out. It's not my fight to fight. Y'all enjoy higher fees and insurance rates. Over and out. If you don't stand up for what you believe in, who will? They try and shove everything to a computer. There are people who don't touch a computer. How would they ever get a copy? It's not all about the fee. It's about the ONLY way to get a copy is online. Make it an option, sure. The first and foremost should be the police station.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Sept 30, 2015 20:12:35 GMT -6
Charge for a copy is acceptable. Contracting out to a third party may not be legal. I have not read everything on this. Someone mentioned to me that $5 may be the maximum allowed, which I feel would be a 'reasonable fee'. Running it exclusively through a third party website that can charge whatever they like is very wrong to me. It allows the PD deniability and say well, that isn't US collecting the fee. The only way it makes it better is for someone that CHOOSES to do it online for whatever reason. Maybe it is someone that is trying to access the information from a distance. For them it may be worthwhile. It shouldn't be the ONLY option. I believe the freedom of information act also mandates that the organization that generates the paperwork is required to have a means of storing or retrieving the paperwork that they generated. SPD claims it is all sent to the third party site and not recoverable by them. Anyway....sometimes you bite off a piece and it's too big to swallow. You spit it out or you chew on it a while. I have chewed on it a while. I am not paying for it. Neither is my agent. The other party's insurance company is. Many of you think I am the bad guy for trying to fight what I feel is wrong. Time to spit it out. It's not my fight to fight. Y'all enjoy higher fees and insurance rates. Over and out. Well, I thought it was very admirable that you were tickling the nose of the dragon to stand up for what you think is right, too bad you found it to be too much to chew. Hey, do you think that if it were Mr. Wrighton's daughter who was in an accident, that he would be typing his credit card number into the world wide web, or that he'd walk over to the Police station part of the building and have someone press the print button for him?
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Post by harleyrk on Oct 1, 2015 9:07:58 GMT -6
And there ya have it in black and white.
Just a question, Why do we need a City Manager and a Mayor ? Does Ottawa,Pontiac,Morris,LaSalle,Peru, again just a question I think I know the answer but need it confirmed.
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Post by father of two on Oct 1, 2015 9:28:13 GMT -6
Because back in the late 80's it was voted in. It can only be done away with by a vote in an election after getting petitions signed. Then there must also be another form of government added to the proposal. Such as, Shall the City of Streator eliminate the City Manager form of government and switch to Full Time Mayor and council? Some of those cities you listed have full time mayors or more staff than we do. Ottawa's Mayor makes around $85,000 plus benefits and is a lawyer on the side. Pontiac has a City Administrator.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 9:48:47 GMT -6
So am I to understand that like cameras at traffic lights our police reports are sold off to a third party that is raking in money in order for you to receive the report? That is exactly what is happening. So I see a couple guys sticking up for this..Do any of you know how much the city received from this private company and where that money was appropriated?
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