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Post by greekgod on Jul 25, 2015 17:10:31 GMT -6
God I hope so. The difference between the 2 is staggering. I am actually in the process of switching over to OSF. The thing that surprised the Doctor I saw over there was that St. Fleeces owns every doctor here. Sniper, isn't it great that you have a choice? I'm sure you'll still whine about what you didn't understand and how you were Fleeced. Don't you just hate it when you become responsible for your own decisions? g
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Jul 26, 2015 11:02:25 GMT -6
Greek, what in the HELL are you babbling about?
You are fast descending to Rocket like post status.............
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Post by capncrunch on Jul 30, 2015 20:24:39 GMT -6
Streator files complaint with FTC over possible St. Mary's sale Story Comments Print Create a hardcopy of this page Font Size: Default font size Larger font size 4 Posted: Thursday, July 30, 2015 5:02 pm | Updated: 6:11 pm, Thu Jul 30, 2015. Jerrilyn Zavada, jzavada@mywebtimes.com, 815-673-6371 | 0 comments
Streator city officials confirmed Thursday they have filed a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission about the possibility of OSF HealthCare purchasing HSHS St. Mary's Hospital.
"We have filed a complaint with the FTC that the acquisition by OSF would be monopolistic," City Manager Scot Wrighton told The Times.
Wrighton declined to provide immediate documentation of any correspondence with the FTC, asking The Times to file a Freedom of Information Act request for specific information. He said he was unsure which part of the documentation the city could disclose and that he would need to consult with legal counsel. The Times submitted a FOIA request to the city late Thursday afternoon.
"If (OSF) would come in, we could be without a hospital or 24-hour emergency room," Mayor Jimmie Lansford said. "More importantly they could come in and they have a monopoly (on the region). We didn't think that was fair to Streator."
The OSF HealthCare group has hospitals in Ottawa, Mendota and Pontiac. If it were to acquire St. Mary's, that would give it three hospitals within a roughly 25-mile radius.
The Times sent an email request to OSF for further comment about the potential purchase of the facilities and what their short-term and long-term plans would be for the property. An OSF spokeswoman acknowledged receipt of the email and is working on a response.
An HSHS spokeswoman said Thursday the hospital group, which currently operates St. Mary's, will not be making any public statements at this time.
"We are still in the process of determining how best to transition the operations and assets of HSHS St. Mary's Hospital to another provider," said Jessica Michael, interim marketing and communications director, in an email statement.
HSHS in Springfield announced earlier this month it has hired Merrill Lynch to seek providers to transition all operations and assets of HSHS St. Mary's Hospital, with officials saying the hospital's finances are stable and attractive to a would-be buyer. The system has identified 16 Catholic and non-Catholic hospital groups that would have the ability to assume the hospital's resources.
Officials for Advocate Health Care, which operate a hospital in Normal, were vague about any possible interest in buying the Streator hospital but didn't deny interest.
This story will be updated as more information becomes available.
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Post by dive61364 on Jul 30, 2015 21:20:45 GMT -6
only time will tell if this action will benefit or hurt the survival of St. Mary's hospital. no heath care specialist wants to invest in a hospital that cant turn a profit in this economy.
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Post by antamaleen on Jul 30, 2015 21:33:58 GMT -6
Isn't OSF a hospital? Don't they have an emergency room? The mayor says we could be without them if OSF gets St. Mary's.
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Post by vikesfan on Jul 30, 2015 23:08:43 GMT -6
"If (OSF) would come in, we could be without a hospital or 24-hour emergency room," Mayor Jimmie Lansford said. "More importantly they could come in and they have a monopoly (on the region). We didn't think that was fair to Streator."
Huh??? That makes zero sense. How many people/groups buy a business and close it? As for the monopoly wouldnt it make more sense to deal with it as opposed to HSHS shuttering the building and having nothing?
The OSF HealthCare group has hospitals in Ottawa, Mendota and Pontiac. If it were to acquire St. Mary's, that would give it three hospitals within a roughly 25-mile radius.
Wouldnt St Marys make 4? Ottawa, Mendota, Pontiac is 3 plus Streator equals 4
Sounds to me like someone at city hall may have a grudge against OSF and are making this a personal issue.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Jul 30, 2015 23:25:04 GMT -6
it seems not if the Mayor gets his way.
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Post by dog on Jul 31, 2015 6:10:10 GMT -6
Huh??? That makes zero sense. How many people/groups buy a business and close it? It happens quite often actually. Locally, prestress was bought by the competition and shuttered. Walgreens bought hudachkos and possibly thrifty drugs and closed them. I believe Donnelly bought smaller print companies and closed them. It's possible that someone at city hall has a grudge, but more likely is the fact that our mayor was a hospital administrator and has more insight than we do on how the hospitals do business.
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Post by capncrunch on Jul 31, 2015 6:34:59 GMT -6
St. Mary's has been slowly shutting it's doors as it is. Most residents in Streator, for the ones that has the means to get to another town do. If by chance you go to the Emergency room for a cardiac arrest(for example), St. Mary's ships you to either Springfield or to St. Francis as it is. If, for example, you need knee replacement, people go to Dr Perona over to Peru. Ill. If you served in the service, people use the VA system, If you need an ENT, or skin doctor you go over Ottawa's. If you are a diabetic, people go to Bloomington, or Morris. Then there is the lab. I've heard talk that people don't even trust the lab. I've heard that People use Streator Drugs because of the cost. And plus, we as residents of Streator, don't even know how many law suits this hospital has on top of it. I know, for myself, I don't have much faith in the doctors here in town, as it is. And have been looking else where for another doctor. So, in my opinion, St. Mary's has not been doing well, and are not attempting to regain trust to the residents in this town. It would be a tax right off for if OSF buys this hospital and have the doors shut.
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Jul 31, 2015 7:18:32 GMT -6
Huh??? That makes zero sense. How many people/groups buy a business and close it? It happens quite often actually. Locally, prestress was bought by the competition and shuttered. Walgreens bought hudachkos and possibly thrifty drugs and closed them. I believe Donnelly bought smaller print companies and closed them. It's possible that someone at city hall has a grudge, but more likely is the fact that our mayor was a hospital administrator and has more insight than we do on how the hospitals do business. More likely is he not only has a grudge, that he was a former Hospital administrator speaks volumes as to his management style. ( He came from St.Fleeces, right? ) OSF has no NEED to buy the competition, they OWN it already, people are switching due to the poor administration of the current hospital. Give OSF a year and you wouldn't recognize St.Marys.
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Post by dog on Jul 31, 2015 7:33:14 GMT -6
OSF has no NEED to buy the competition, they OWN it already, people are switching due to the poor administration of the current hospital. I wasn't actually looking at it from that angle. I would be thinking OSF would buy it to PREVENT someone better than HSHS from buying it and getting some exposure in OSF territory.
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Post by seaturtle43 in hostile forum on Jul 31, 2015 7:41:40 GMT -6
Even if they closed it would be better than what we have Now. Their er services are horrible. Inpatient sucks too. Example. An elderly friend of mine was in three days after she fell and hit her head Splitting open her forehead. When she was discharged she still had dried matted blood in her hair where the blood had run . They can't even wash her hair and scalp over three days? ??
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Jul 31, 2015 8:52:04 GMT -6
Even if they closed it would be better than what we have Now. Their er services are horrible. Inpatient sucks too. Example. An elderly friend of mine was in three days after she fell and hit her head Splitting open her forehead. When she was discharged she still had dried matted blood in her hair where the blood had run . They can't even wash her hair and scalp over three days? ?? Head over to Pontiac. Best thing I ever did. I realize there might be a time where the extra few minutes might not be possible, but for 99 percent of your emergencies, trust me, the drive is worth it. My last straw with St.Fleeces was when they made my daughter clean out her own wound in the ER.
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Jul 31, 2015 8:53:04 GMT -6
Elective care, you have options, you can go where you want. Emergency care requires prompt attention pretty quick. About 10 years ago my Daughter had some abdominal pain. She was at her Mom's(who I always felt was a bit of a hypochondriac) and She took her straight down to ER here at St. Mary's. She had a burst appendix, they think it may have burst right then and there while they examined her. She was a pretty sick girl and the staff there did a wonderful job. Minutes counted, if not for the prompt and professional care She received......well, I hate to think about it. It's a darn good thing She was at her Mom's too. She was not complaining too much. I may have told her to sleep on it and see how She felt in the morning. Again, I hate to think about that. Her Mom was absolutely right. I am not saying it's a GREAT Hospital, but it's OUR Hospital, and we need it. It needs our support. That could just as easily be any one of our Children someday that needs immediate professional care. It's not good if they close their doors. I think that is what they fear if OSF buys it. 10 years ago we actually had a Hospital. now it is a transfer station.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2015 14:01:12 GMT -6
I read this off of facebook:
William Phelan - Streator City Council Some thoughts on the situation at the Streator hospital:
These thoughts are mine alone and are not an official position of the City of Streator, other council members, or city administration.
HSHS is selling St. Mary's Hospital. That decision has already been made by HSHS and the hospital in its current form will soon be no more. At this point, whether you love St Mary's or hate it doesn't matter because soon there will be no St Mary's.
The questions is, what's next?
We know HSHS has the right to sell St. Mary's to any hospital it chooses. We also know it is also a Catholic organization. Having been raised Catholic and around the church my whole life, I am familiar with how Catholic organizations operate.
Sometimes what they do is not for the best business reasons. Sometimes what they do is not for the best of the community. They do what they think is best for the Catholic Church, which they have every right to do.
I would think many here in Streator can relate to that last point because of what has happened to the churches here and what the plans for the future of the parish might hold.
If HSHS sold St. Mary's to OSF Medical Group (another Catholic organization) because they share a close relationship and never entertained offers from any other hospitals, that would be putting Catholicism ahead of community. And that's what almost happened here.
The city's complaint with the FTC is not a critique of OSF's ability to provide healthcare. It is not an endorsement of HSHS over other healthcare providers because HSHS is leaving no matter what.
It is the city's way of making sure that whatever happens next ensures community comes before Catholicism. As elected officials of the city of Streator that is our job.
You might think if OSF buys the hospital it will be bigger and better than ever, but that is making many assumptions that have no solid basis. There is a very real, very likely possibility that a purchase by OSF would lead to a complete shutdown of the hospital in Streator or to something with fewer services than are provided now. That would be unacceptable and a giant blow to our city.
If St. Mary's was run by a normal business and that business wanted to sell the hospital, what would happen?
The hospital would would reach out to other hospitals and figure out the best deal it could get. And the best deal would likely come from a hospital that sees the most value in our community and our hospital.
And that's what's happening now, in part, thanks to efforts by the city government.
St. Mary's Hospital is a good facility. It has been well taken care of and now we will see what interest other hospitals have in coming to Streator. I have a more than just a good feeling there is a lot of interest out there from not just OSF. But if Catholicism would have been put ahead of community, there's no way we would have known if other hospitals were interested.
Now we will get a hospital that is the best fit for our community because the sale of the hospital is being done out in the open instead of behind closed doors. I don't know who will ultimately take over the hospital, but at least I know we are giving the community a fair shot.
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