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Post by ~MnM~ on Jan 29, 2015 0:58:32 GMT -6
I figured this was in the UK, and not in the US. I know many people who have tried to qualify for this, in my opinion, radical surgery..and are mad because Medicare / Medical Card / insurance won't pay for this surgery, in other words all of us. Granted some, which saying that 'some' is a very small amount that do have a medical condition causing their weight gain, but mostly are just plain OBESE! Fast food, bad food habits, the economy, food additives, processed food ..etc. have caused the majority of obesity in people, and not medical reasoning's. I used to know a woman who clearly was as 'wide as she was tall', and yes she is still among the living, I question though how??? She is pretty much now bed ridden, but her caregiver husband I wonder though in a sense if he might be one of these weirdos who also is an enabler to FEED her to keep putting the weight on her. IF she can not get out of bed...then she can NOT go and buy all the junk to eat then, and would have to depend on him to provide for her. It sickens me to no end to see reality show's airing on T.V.... IE: "My 600 lb. Life", "My Big Fat Fabulous Life", "My Strange Addiction"...etc! What kind of messages are these really sending to the younger generations, truly? Sad that producers are banking on shows such as that, and apathetically sad to those that do watch them! JMHO................... M
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Post by capncrunch on Jan 30, 2015 9:41:07 GMT -6
Between the insurance companies and the state, Doctors are getting paid but half of what the bills are, that's why most are leaving. These are the words of the Doctors not mine. And their liability insurance is outrages. Only due to people wanting to sue.
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Jan 30, 2015 10:14:59 GMT -6
NOT, if Physicians are doing their part by all governmental laws. I honestly believe too many Dr's. are to blame for the screw up of our Medical CRISIS in the USA. jmo Is a Doctor a paper pusher or a Physician? The problem is too many Government BS papers. That is why you see concierge care gaining traction, between 12 bucks a month and 52 bucks a month depending on your age, and you can see the Doc 24/7 for free, and ANY in office service is covered, most including same day surgeries. They don't take Insurance and don't need all the support staff and are MUCH happier and less stressed Doctors. If only we could get one around here.......
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Post by toshiko on Jan 30, 2015 10:26:55 GMT -6
Won't happen sniper. Local hospital would see to that, I think. Shoot, I got charged as a new patient, after I had been going to same dr. for years. When they took over docs, in town, they tried pulling that charge, not once, but twice, as my 2 drs. now work for them.
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Post by Blue Star on Jan 30, 2015 10:39:57 GMT -6
NOT, if Physicians are doing their part by all governmental laws. I honestly believe too many Dr's. are to blame for the screw up of our Medical CRISIS in the USA. jmo Is a Doctor a paper pusher or a Physician? The problem is too many Government BS papers. That is why you see concierge care gaining traction, between 12 bucks a month and 52 bucks a month depending on your age, and you can see the Doc 24/7 for free, and ANY in office service is covered, most including same day surgeries. They don't take Insurance and don't need all the support staff and are MUCH happier and less stressed Doctors. If only we could get one around here....... I read an article about the Dr. that started that a few years back. It was @ 1st for the wealthy, but is now taking many people. I think he's out N/W, Seattle maybe? He got his niece, a Dr. too, on board fairly recent too.
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Post by Blue Star on Jan 30, 2015 12:27:32 GMT -6
We went to hom a lot! I loved that man!
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Post by chevypower on Jan 30, 2015 12:32:57 GMT -6
A lot of people blame the DRS ...news flash.....the state tells them what they can or can not do.
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Post by capncrunch on Jan 30, 2015 13:13:20 GMT -6
A lot of people blame the DRS ...news flash.....the state tells them what they can or can not do. Are you talking about the medical card(Government) or health insurance in general? Health Insurance, of any company, whether it is the medical card, Blue Cross, Aetena, Cigna, will pay for one thing but will not pay for another thing. Any insurance company has control over people's health rather than the Doctors or ourselves for that matter. Say for example, a person needs a knee replacement, and the Doctor is more than willing to do the surgery, but if the insurance company says that they will not cover the surgery, the Doctor will not do the surgery. Another example, is say that the doctor prescibes Nexuim for a patient, but the insurance company will only pay for Prilosec because it's cheaper, but Nexium works better for the patient, the patient has to deal with Prilosec or do without. So is it the Governemnt or is it the health insurance period?
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Jan 30, 2015 15:33:03 GMT -6
Won't happen sniper. Local hospital would see to that, I think. Shoot, I got charged as a new patient, after I had been going to same dr. for years. When they took over docs, in town, they tried pulling that charge, not once, but twice, as my 2 drs. now work for them. Yep, I believe St. Fleeces owns every single doctor in the area now. Sad, but true. I always wondered how a non-profit ( yea, righto...) could afford to buy out all the competition. Still, a non-affiliated concierge facility could knock them in the head...... competition might wake them up.
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Post by chevypower on Jan 30, 2015 23:08:11 GMT -6
A lot of people blame the DRS ...news flash.....the state tells them what they can or can not do. Are you talking about the medical card(Government) or health insurance in general? Health Insurance, of any company, whether it is the medical card, Blue Cross, Aetena, Cigna, will pay for one thing but will not pay for another thing. Any insurance company has control over people's health rather than the Doctors or ourselves for that matter. Say for example, a person needs a knee replacement, and the Doctor is more than willing to do the surgery, but if the insurance company says that they will not cover the surgery, the Doctor will not do the surgery. Another example, is say that the doctor prescibes Nexuim for a patient, but the insurance company will only pay for Prilosec because it's cheaper, but Nexium works better for the patient, the patient has to deal with Prilosec or do without. So is it the Governemnt or is it the health insurance period? It would be both, the Insurance companies also control what they want too, and yes, if you are on any medical card or government assistance the state will be the Doctor so too say and tell the Doctor what they can or can not do, and if their lucky too even get paid half of the bill by the state. The sad part is most are on a medical card, and the Doctors are fed up with all the crap and are leaving the state. ''words of a couple Doctors that I know.
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Post by chevypower on Jan 31, 2015 18:15:13 GMT -6
well said M$M
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