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Oct 12, 2014 8:10:26 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2014 8:10:26 GMT -6
I think the CDC and WHO have a pretty good handle on Ebola. There have been two, just two cases reported in the US and they are directly connected. Remember SARS and the avian flu? These diseases were suppose to sweep the planet but what happened? The diseases ran there courses and eventually they faded away. These diseases are much easier to spread than Ebola and they were still contained. Stoking fear and panic for whatever reason isn't solving anything except raising people's blood pressures or perhaps swinging a few votes in the up coming elections. Unless you have visited west Africa or have been in close contact with someone who has, you have about as great a chance of contracting Ebola as you do the bubonic plague. As for how the health care worker contracted the disease, I would probably say it was due to error on their part. Believe it or not even professionals make mistakes. Trained pilots crash planes, skilled woodworkers cut off fingers, and yes sometimes medical professionals contract dangerous diseases. On another forum I frequent one of the doctors goofed and stated it was very difficult to be infected with ebola..Said it was as difficult to catch as the flu..Sugar coat that Daddio!!!
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Post by toshiko on Oct 12, 2014 8:14:42 GMT -6
The hospital sent him home w/ a 103 temp. The hospital was not prepared and have a lot of explaining to do. WHY was he sent home w/ a fever, even after he said, from where he came? Was it perhaps, he had no insurance? As for the healthcare worker, I am willing to bet it was a shortcut, they took.
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Ebola
Oct 12, 2014 8:31:43 GMT -6
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Post by northsider on Oct 12, 2014 8:31:43 GMT -6
I think the CDC and WHO have a pretty good handle on Ebola. There have been two, just two cases reported in the US and they are directly connected. Remember SARS and the avian flu? These diseases were suppose to sweep the planet but what happened? The diseases ran there courses and eventually they faded away. These diseases are much easier to spread than Ebola and they were still contained. Stoking fear and panic for whatever reason isn't solving anything except raising people's blood pressures or perhaps swinging a few votes in the up coming elections. Unless you have visited west Africa or have been in close contact with someone who has, you have about as great a chance of contracting Ebola as you do the bubonic plague. As for how the health care worker contracted the disease, I would probably say it was due to error on their part. Believe it or not even professionals make mistakes. Trained pilots crash planes, skilled woodworkers cut off fingers, and yes sometimes medical professionals contract dangerous diseases. On another forum I frequent one of the doctors goofed and stated it was very difficult to be infected with ebola..Said it was as difficult to catch as the flu..Sugar coat that Daddio!!! If you are to believe a government website, approximately 5-20% of the US population contracts some form of the flu each year. Until we start seeing numbers close to that with Ebola I am inclined to believe that the doctor on the other website either misspoke or is wrong. Does this make sense or do your paranoid conspiracy theories seem more logical?
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Ebola
Oct 12, 2014 9:42:35 GMT -6
Post by Blue Star on Oct 12, 2014 9:42:35 GMT -6
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Ebola
Oct 12, 2014 10:44:17 GMT -6
Post by toshiko on Oct 12, 2014 10:44:17 GMT -6
Fear mongering, is the ebola of the media!
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Post by dog on Oct 12, 2014 12:28:23 GMT -6
I listened to the director of the CDC in your link. I find it disturbing that he automatically blames a breech in protocol for the health worker getting infected. He then goes on to say that there might be other health workers there who might have violated protocol and might be infected. Maybe it was not a breech in protocol but a defective protocol that is causing the problem. He also talked about limiting contact to as few of health workers as possible. But that brings me back to the point of having patients in Atlanta, Omaha, and Dallas. Why have them all over the place? Why doesn't anyone else think it is prudent to limit the risk, to one location, and very few workers? On an edit: He goes on to say how they have had decades of experience in Africa on how to identify and stop the transmission of Ebola, which should stop the spread of disease. He goes on again to basically say some level of carelessness on the part of health workers are responsible. So if there are good protocols but carelessness, the disease will still spread, wont it?I mean how many of us are such loners that if we were infected, wouldn't run the risk of being in contact with at least one other person? I don't know a lot about the particular regions in Africa where this is more common, but I would expect those areas to be more isolated than urban areas of America, where we are more mobile and have more interactions with our fellow citizens. I think as a bureaucrat, he has the job of keeping the public calm and I think he is a lot more worried than he lets on to be.
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Post by helencrump on Oct 12, 2014 13:31:29 GMT -6
I listened to the director of the CDC in your link. I find it disturbing that he automatically blames a breech in protocol for the health worker getting infected. He then goes on to say that there might be other health workers there who might have violated protocol and might be infected. Maybe it was not a breech in protocol but a defective protocol that is causing the problem. He also talked about limiting contact to as few of health workers as possible. But that brings me back to the point of having patients in Atlanta, Omaha, and Dallas. Why have them all over the place? Why doesn't anyone else think it is prudent to limit the risk, to one location, and very few workers? On an edit: He goes on to say how they have had decades of experience in Africa on how to identify and stop the transmission of Ebola, which should stop the spread of disease. He goes on again to basically say some level of carelessness on the part of health workers are responsible. So if there are good protocols but carelessness, the disease will still spread, wont it?I mean how many of us are such loners that if we were infected, wouldn't run the risk of being in contact with at least one other person? I don't know a lot about the particular regions in Africa where this is more common, but I would expect those areas to be more isolated than urban areas of America, where we are more mobile and have more interactions with our fellow citizens. I think as a bureaucrat, he has the job of keeping the public calm and I think he is a lot more worried than he lets on to be. That is exactly how it's being spread in Africa. It's rampant in isolated villages, with the most limited of care. Those stricken are being cared for by family, or neighbors. No medical care is available for them, or extremely limited. The villagers are then left to handle the dead bodies, which remain infectious. These family caregivers are then showing symptoms, and on. Some of them have sought care for those infected, but many die enroute, with the caregivers being treated once they arrive, now infected themselves. Since assistance has been arriving, to teach and provide instructions and better water sources, the percentage of deaths has gone down. It had been in the 90% death rate. I believe it's somewhere at 60's% now.
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Ebola
Oct 12, 2014 13:57:32 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2014 13:57:32 GMT -6
I'm more concerned about who's responsible for it being here than the fact that it is here.. Seems to show a total disregard for the citizens who elected him..
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Oct 12, 2014 17:54:37 GMT -6
Post by octavarium on Oct 12, 2014 17:54:37 GMT -6
I'm more concerned about who's responsible for it being here than the fact that it is here.. Seems to show a total disregard for the citizens who elected him.. Who is responsible?
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Oct 13, 2014 10:18:19 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2014 10:18:19 GMT -6
Same person who made a PR address for the African people telling them it is perfectly safe to sit next to someone infected with ebola on a bus...
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Ebola
Oct 13, 2014 10:30:58 GMT -6
Post by Blue Star on Oct 13, 2014 10:30:58 GMT -6
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Oct 13, 2014 17:10:55 GMT -6
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Oct 13, 2014 20:29:22 GMT -6
Post by helencrump on Oct 13, 2014 20:29:22 GMT -6
I don't quite understand people. Many are freaking out and calling for all travel out of Africa to be halted. But, there has been public outcry that the British Ebola stricken citizens dog was euthanized. In these early stages, when its unsure if animals can indeed carry, i find it hard to fathom that thered be such an uproar. SMH
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Ebola
Oct 13, 2014 20:56:31 GMT -6
Post by octavarium on Oct 13, 2014 20:56:31 GMT -6
Same person who made a PR address for the African people telling them it is perfectly safe to sit next to someone infected with ebola on a bus... Would you please be specific and name the person you think is responsible for bringing Ebola to the US? Would it happen to be the Liberian man who came here on a plane from Belgium?
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Oct 13, 2014 21:05:27 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2014 21:05:27 GMT -6
Same person who made a PR address for the African people telling them it is perfectly safe to sit next to someone infected with ebola on a bus... Would you please be specific and name the person you think is responsible for bringing Ebola to the US? Would it happen to be the Liberian man who came here on a plane from Belgium? You're a smart boy.Figure it out.
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