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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2014 6:41:26 GMT -6
I've probably went to 4 or 5 movies in the last ten years..3 of them at the majestic which in my antique mind is what a movie theater should be. I know many who will drive to Peoria or Bloomington for the theaters with all the bells and whistles..
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Post by dive61364 on Sept 13, 2014 8:13:08 GMT -6
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Post by dumdave on Sept 13, 2014 9:26:07 GMT -6
I'd like to see it come back as a non-profit corp. I have know idea if the financials will work Maybe Kyle knows?
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Post by oldtimer on Sept 13, 2014 9:48:48 GMT -6
I'd like to see it come back as a non-profit corp. I have know idea if the financials will work Maybe Kyle knows? Ask kyle a business question? Ask kyle why tomasellos closed.
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Post by dog on Sept 13, 2014 9:57:10 GMT -6
I'd like to see it come back as a non-profit corp. I have know idea if the financials will work Maybe Kyle knows? For- profit or non-profit still needs revenue to stay open, either from charity or ticket sales. If it couldn't garner enough customers or donations to stay open then, it certainly wont stay open in the future. Maybe some philanthropist or businessman who has a love for old theaters and would be fine with it losing money for a tax write-off would be its only hope.
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Post by dog on Sept 13, 2014 10:04:38 GMT -6
I'd like to see it come back as a non-profit corp. I have know idea if the financials will work Maybe Kyle knows? Ask kyle a business question? Ask kyle why tomasellos closed. You gotta hand it to Kyle, he is shrewd. He actually never said that Tomasellos closed due to them being called illegal. He said they were declared illegal and then shortly afterwards they closed. He wanted us to connect the two events without having to admit that was what he was inferring. He left himself with a path to deniability. He has done it before on occasions, so it shouldn't come as a shock to anyone he continues to utilize that tactic. On a side note, he wants to use that deniability when it suits him but when the city declares people living downtown illegal and not calling him out by name but looking at him, he wants to apply a double standard and cry foul
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Post by dog on Sept 13, 2014 10:23:47 GMT -6
I've probably went to 4 or 5 movies in the last ten years..3 of them at the majestic which in my antique mind is what a movie theater should be. I know many who will drive to Peoria or Bloomington for the theaters with all the bells and whistles.. Putting your business in larger areas of population is usually more effective than trying to draw those people to travel to a less populated area for your product, unless you have a truly unique experience for them. Majestic theater itself IS cool, but compared to what is offered at other theaters it just wasn't enough to keep the doors open. If the Majestic were located in downtown Chicago, with the larger population base it would probably still be open, even in spite of the excessive violence that takes place in Chicago, with all the robberies, muggings, shootings, and murders that occur in Chicago.
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Post by dumdave on Sept 13, 2014 11:05:14 GMT -6
Not much optimism here today.
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Post by dragonfly on Sept 13, 2014 11:33:05 GMT -6
I don't know why they didn't try to lower the ticket prices at the Majestic to draw more people in. If they would have charged 2-3 dollars a person, maybe more people would have went. They would still make a good profit on candy and popcorn. If Sunday afternoon they would have showed some old movies that the retirees used to go and see back in their day, maybe that would have generated more revenue. I'm not sure if theaters can get old movies, but they had a good crowd when they showed "Hollywood Nights"
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Post by oldtimer on Sept 13, 2014 11:43:05 GMT -6
I don't know why they didn't try to lower the ticket prices at the Majestic to draw more people in. If they would have charged 2-3 dollars a person, maybe more people would have went. They would still make a good profit on candy and popcorn. If Sunday afternoon they would have showed some old movies that the retirees used to go and see back in their day, maybe that would have generated more revenue. I'm not sure if theaters can get old movies, but they had a good crowd when they showed "Hollywood Nights" How about if they just let people in for free? For goodness sake, the movie theatre needs to pay the bills and it's employees. The prices at the Majestic were far from expensive. If people weren't going there when tickets were priced what they were, then a couple bucks cheaper wasn't going to change peoples habits of driving out of town to see movies. People just didn't support the Majestic. I think it's crazy that now people want it to be a not for profit theatre? That means that they will still charge about the same for tickets. Nothing will change with the attendance. The not for profit will do just that... never make a profit, and, it too will eventually fail! Forget it... put a fork in the Majestic as Streator didn't support it. It sure is sad!
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Post by helencrump on Sept 13, 2014 12:15:33 GMT -6
What I find sad is that those that constantly bemoan that there's nothing to do in town didnt support it. I do agree that if they had a showing every week that was a bogo, or half price or something, it might of brought in businesss.
But, maybe that wouldn't even work. The Y and scc offer activities all the time that are dollar entrance fees, and they have low attendance.
I don't know what the solution is.
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Post by dragonfly on Sept 13, 2014 17:54:24 GMT -6
Check out wildeytheatre.com. Maybe the Majestic would have been a better investment than a band shelter. About the Wildey Theatre Welcome to the historic Wildey Theatre. Opened in 1909 as an opera house and a second floor meeting hall for the Independent Order of Oddfellows, the Wildey has undergone many transformations throughout the years. Located in Downtown Edwardsville on Main Street, the Wildey closed as a full-time movie theatre on March 8, 1984 after more than 400 people attended the movie "The Big Chill." The Edwardsville Historic Preservation Commission later designated the Wildey Theatre as a "Local Landmark" in 1986. Recognizing the importance of the Wildey Theatre to the overall downtown development efforts, the City acquired the property (or theatre) in 1999 with a state grant. The City has now finished the renovation, and the resurrected theatre is ready to once again be a venue for live performances and classic films. - See more at: www.wildeytheatre.com
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Sept 13, 2014 17:58:39 GMT -6
I have faith in Tim that things will work out and the theatre will again be open...under new management. Hear that oldtimer, why don't you be that new management? I would love to have you see your patrons' reactions when they bring their kids out of a show and see one of the drunken street brawls or someone with their pants down. My guess is that if he does re-open it, that new management will be the Couch Family. It was the son and daughter of Tim's friend Gary Couch, owner of Floor to Ceiling in Ottawa, who were sticking up for him on Facebook and were handling things at the theatre for him when they kicked Katie to the curb. Whatever the issues are between him and his partners that he has had in the past decade he does have a legitimate reasoning for them not working out. The issue is that he doesn't live up to his end of the agreements. That is why he used the huge lie about making way for the "big money people from Pennsylvania" to get me out, instead of giving a better reason. Granted Tim is clear out in California...BUT he still holds true to his roots here in Streator Now that is an interesting topic. I'll tell you what, instead of me telling you first what Tim says about the people of Streator, go ask Katie and Don at Toppings what Tim says about people of Streator and then come ask me to see that I am not making it up, but trust me, it is not flattering. Don't ever expect Tim to move to Streator and actually be a part of the community.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Sept 13, 2014 18:03:16 GMT -6
I'd like to see it come back as a non-profit corp. I have know idea if the financials will work Maybe Kyle knows? Despite a professional like Mr. Endres thinking that it should be a tourist destination, Streator's reputation keeps too many people away from our downtown for it to create enough revenue to pay the huge expenses of such an old building. Now with the unprofessional, nasty, very public battle and closure after bilking donors, I don't think it will ever be a viable business again. Tim killed the place. RIP Majestic
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Sept 13, 2014 18:45:17 GMT -6
I'd like to see it come back as a non-profit corp. I have know idea if the financials will work Maybe Kyle knows? Ask kyle a business question? Ask kyle why tomasellos closed. You gotta hand it to Kyle, he is shrewd. He actually never said that Tomasellos closed due to them being called illegal. He said they were declared illegal and then shortly afterwards they closed. He wanted us to connect the two events without having to admit that was what he was inferring. He left himself with a path to deniability. He has done it before on occasions, so it shouldn't come as a shock to anyone he continues to utilize that tactic. On a side note, he wants to use that deniability when it suits him but when the city declares people living downtown illegal and not calling him out by name but looking at him, he wants to apply a double standard and cry foul I don't know why Tomasello's closed. Some people seem to think that he just retired. I talked to him a couple of times prior to that, he seemed rather young for retirement to me, but I don't know. I find it strange that he retired shortly after being declared illegal, but I never said that is why he closed because it was only an example of a business being given a hard time by our City. Being declared an illegal resident when he wasn't is being given a hard time, don't you agree? Even if he were going to retire, why not sell the business instead of just closing it up? If it were a thriving business, wouldn't it have value to sell? I posted that they closed shortly after being declared illegal to point out the timing of it and that it indicates that it probably was a struggling business, like most of the vacant storefronts here used to be. I left that "path to deniability" because I did not know the real reason that he closed and didn't want to say something that is not true. That is unlike our City, whose public declaration of illegal was not true, they had no path to deniability. After their declaration, I explained our Accessory Use ordinance to them. They said that they would look into it, but refused to respond to it at all after that. They did not refute that my family's residency was in fact legal when they made their untrue declaration. You don't even see Willy trying to claim that my residency was not covered under the Accessory Use clause. There is a big difference between a true statement and an untrue statement, so I really don't think it is any kind of double standard. Business owners being declared illegal by City leaders when they are not is not right and dos hurt business. It is irresponsible governing.
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