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Post by chevypower on Jul 28, 2014 11:04:19 GMT -6
Vactor is a positive work force/ Business leave them out of it, thank you.
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Post by helencrump on Jul 28, 2014 13:20:45 GMT -6
I never saw any police at the park. I believe they were quite busy by the number of sirens. I did not see any drinking going on in the park, either. I do know some alcohol was consumed by a number of attendees at dinner beforehand. Probably a fair amount of them, even. it was a Saturday night. I see no problem discussing the LACK of violence or LACK of any negative behavior on a positive thread about positive things happening in streator. I think we should have the right to post positive events taking place without incident, since you have shown you're hell bent on posting every negative incident that takes place, Kyle. Maybe you misunderstood my post. I am all for there being positive threads about positive events, groups, and businesses in our community. People have the right to post whatever they want. northsider can turn a thread about a positive into a conversation about the negatives if he wants to, I was just giving my insignificant opinion that I think there is a more appropriate thread for these other issues to be discussed. Just so that we are very clear, I have not posted about every negative incident that takes place, far from it. I have p on many incidents that have not been mentioned here at all; I have many videos that have never been posted anywhere. And just because some of us have stopped trying to have conversations with you on the thread you now call your 'blog' doesn't mean we are squashing your free speech. You're free to ramble on all you like. After all, you ARE the only one with their own 'blog' on here. That doesn't mean I have to post on it. It's unnecessary anyway. You change what I say to your version, so why bother posting mine? Lol, talk about taking someone's free speech away...you've done that to ME. NOT the other way around! Please do show me where I have changed what you have said and I will apologize. I didn't change your version of these statements did I? Maybe if he had grown up in small town USA, surrounded by cornfields, strip mine pits, and a river running through it, he would have been 'exposed' to things like skinny dipping on warm summer nights, parties in the middle of cornfields, where porta potties were not provided, and you simply looked away and gave your fellow party goers privacy. When a couple friends drank too much and ended up in a fight, you simply told them what jerks they were the next day. I ve got news for you...men in small towns everywhere relieve themselves n corners of buildings. Quit wasting the police's time with those calls. Isn't that you trying to make urinating in public and fighting seem acceptable? We should look the other way and just call them jerks the next day. That seems to be pretty much the same attitude that I've experienced from our City leaders too. I feel that these activities are wrong, hurt business in our downtown, and should not be allowed to continue. All I have been asking for is that we start taking some action to reduce the number of these incidents to help our community improve. However I receive great resistance from you and others here who seem hell bent on allowing these things to continue without any consequences. THAT is what I'm talking about. I'm going to say this one last time to you, Kyle. I'm not a violent person. I don't condone fighting. I don't encourage anyone to empty their bladder in any alley in any town. That being said, you portraying it as 'exposing themselves' to a young child coming out of the theater with their family, makes it sound like a child molester, targeting that family, instead of the incident that it was. A young guy relieving himself in the alley. Your inability to see things as they are, and fight that fight, instead of exaggerating and blowing things out of proportion, loosing perspective, is what lost your support. Since you brought the subject up again, I'd like to say one more thing. We went to the Roxy yesterday, and had it not been a show that my guy has been waiting to see, I'd have left. I searched for a seat in 4 rows that wasn't filthy, never finding one. I finally picked one that looked the least filthy, and hoped it was pop spilt all over the seats, and not p!ss. As manager, don't you make sure the place is clean? Thankfully we had towels to cover the carseats before sitting in the car. THAT will keep me from going back to that theater.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Jul 28, 2014 14:40:29 GMT -6
I'm going to say this one last time to you, Kyle. I'm not a violent person. I don't condone fighting. Making so many comments against my discussing the fighting problems and inferring that calling brawlers jerks the next day is an appropriate consequence makes it sound to me as if you do condone the fighting. I don't encourage anyone to empty their bladder in any alley in any town. I think that making comments saying that it goes on other places and telling me to stop reporting it, is encouraging more of it. Your statements at the very least express that urinating in public is acceptable, in my opinion. That being said, you portraying it as 'exposing themselves' to a young child coming out of the theater with their family, makes it sound like a child molester, targeting that family, instead of the incident that it was. A young guy relieving himself in the alley. Your inability to see things as they are, and fight that fight, instead of exaggerating and blowing things out of proportion, loosing perspective, is what lost your support. Were you there to know what the incident was? Why don't you tell us all what the company name on the side of his work truck was. Obviously you were not there, because the incident that I witnessed and have been talking about was not in an alley at all, it was in the middle of Vermillion St. and his peni s was visible to children. I never said anything about a child molester targeting a family. Please show how I made it sound like that. How could you possibly pretend to know more about the incident than I do? I think that is part of the problem, you pretend that you know more about what has happened than you really do, but it is just more cesspool fill. Since you brought the subject up again, I'd like to say one more thing. We went to the Roxy yesterday, and had it not been a show that my guy has been waiting to see, I'd have left. I searched for a seat in 4 rows that wasn't filthy, never finding one. I finally picked one that looked the least filthy, and hoped it was pop spilt all over the seats, and not p!ss. As manager, don't you make sure the place is clean? Thankfully we had towels to cover the carseats before sitting in the car. THAT will keep me from going back to that theater. What does the Roxy have to do with the subjects being discussed? Because northsider brought up public urinating, it reminded you that you hoped that the seats have been pissed on? Isn't that just another attempt at an attack against me because you don't like what I have to say? I have not been the manager of the Roxy for some time. The stains are only part of the problem with those seats. I would have liked for the owner to have replaced those seats long ago. I'll let him know how disgusted you are, but it is not my decision as to how he spends his money.
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Post by helencrump on Jul 28, 2014 15:10:47 GMT -6
Kyle says "What does the Roxy have to do with the subjects being discussed? Because northsider brought up public urinating, it reminded you that you hoped that the seats have been mad on? Isn't that just another attempt at an attack against me because you don't like what I have to say?"
Have you been rambling so long that you've forgotten? Kyle, the people of streator are going to keep plugging along, doing the best they can to stay afloat in the hard times, and unrest throughout the world. We will prioritize based on importance, and try to get as much enjoyment and satisfaction out of life along the way. Maybe listen to a band here and there.
I'm finished talking to you. I don't like your negativity. I don't like the way you attack people, and then act shocked when others stand up for them. That's another thing about streatorites that you don't get. We don't have to know someone to stand up for them. We just have to see another being wronged. Stranger, friend, or sometimes even foe.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 15:38:47 GMT -6
Kyle says "What does the Roxy have to do with the subjects being discussed? Because northsider brought up public urinating, it reminded you that you hoped that the seats have been mad on? Isn't that just another attempt at an attack against me because you don't like what I have to say?" Have you been rambling so long that you've forgotten? Kyle, the people of streator are going to keep plugging along, doing the best they can to stay afloat in the hard times, and unrest throughout the world. We will prioritize based on importance, and try to get as much enjoyment and satisfaction out of life along the way. Maybe listen to a band here and there. I'm finished talking to you. I don't like your negativity. I don't like the way you attack people, and then act shocked when others stand up for them. That's another thing about streatorites that you don't get. We don't have to know someone to stand up for them. We just have to see another being wronged. Stranger, friend, or sometimes even foe. helen:
EZ on Kyle...how would YOU like to do duty on Fort Majestic's watch tower with night vision binoculars night after night after night, just waiting for those nasty men to powerwash the bricks!? Remember the episode when Gomer and Barney were waiting on the roof of the jail with shotguns in order to protect Andy? It was out of concern and civic pride!
POWERWASHING
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Post by helencrump on Jul 28, 2014 15:44:23 GMT -6
Ok, so what's with the one pant leg being so much shorter, on the 2 shirtless men?
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Post by dog on Jul 28, 2014 17:45:19 GMT -6
Ok, so what's with the one pant leg being so much shorter, on the 2 shirtless men? Probably the way the wind is blowing it would get on that pant leg if they didnt pull it up, or they could just be sticking it out the bottom of the pant leg. I have found in the middle of the night when nature calls, sometimes it is easier to just pull the boxer leg up, rather than find the little flap in the front.
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Post by helencrump on Jul 28, 2014 19:01:53 GMT -6
I'll buy that. Thought maybe it was the new thing, replacing wearing their pants around their ankles. I mean hips.
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Jul 28, 2014 21:34:00 GMT -6
I'm finished talking to you. I don't like your negativity. You are finished talking to me and do not like my negativity? All I have been talking about is what does happen in Streator, if you think that what happens here is too negative, maybe you should look to our City leaders to change it. I noticed that didn't address these comments: That being said, you portraying it as 'exposing themselves' to a young child coming out of the theater with their family, makes it sound like a child molester, targeting that family, instead of the incident that it was. A young guy relieving himself in the alley. Your inability to see things as they are, and fight that fight, instead of exaggerating and blowing things out of proportion, loosing perspective, is what lost your support. Were you there to know what the incident was? Why don't you tell us all what the company name on the side of his work truck was.
Obviously you were not there, because the incident that I witnessed and have been talking about was not in an alley at all, it was in the middle of Vermillion St. and his peni s was visible to children.
I never said anything about a child molester targeting a family. Please show how I made it sound like that.
How could you possibly pretend to know more about the incident than I do? I think that is part of the problem, you pretend that you know more about what has happened than you really do, but it is just more cesspool fill.
It is obvious by you lack of addressing this, that your claims that it happened in an alley and that I made it sound like a child molester targeted a family was just made up cesspool fill. Why do you have such a hard time telling the truth? How about your claims about the Roxy? I won't deny that the seats are in bad shape, but are they really that bad that after searching four rows and finding the best seats possible that you had to use towels to protect your car seat from what got on your clothes? I think it is just more of your made up cesspool fill. However, I will be happy to set up a meeting with the owner at the Roxy so that you can show him where these four rows of such terrible seats are. If you can show him that they are that bad as to leave anything on someone's clothing, I think that there is a good chance that he would cover your dry cleaning cost. I am confident though that it is just more of your made up cesspool fill. It doesn't surprise me that you are done talking to me, you have nothing to stand behind to defend against what I say, other than your lies. What it all boils down to is that people being over-served to the point that they are brawling and pulling their pants down in the street too often has been hurting other businesses here for a long time and our City has been looking the other way to allow it to continue. Some of our City leaders even seem to share the opinion that you expressed to me, that these things are acceptable. You may not like it that I have been pointing this out to ask people to vote for new leaders, but that is the way it is. Go ahead and keep trying to make others think that these activities are acceptable and I will keep pointing out my opinions about them. If the voters agree that these things are acceptable and like the direction that Streator has been heading, they can vote for our current leaders. If they decide that they want change, maybe Streator will see change. Either way, I have only been talking about what does happen here, not making things up like you.
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Post by mommytoo4 on Jul 28, 2014 21:49:36 GMT -6
Ok here is your issue.....quit THINKING!!!! She has explained to you over and over, you saying "exposed himself to children" makes it sound like he ran up and flashed them. YOU saying a tourist got beat up sounds like some guy walking down the street got jumped, when in fact he was at the bar drinking and I am sure wasn't innocent in the incident.
And as for the Roxy, that place is and was disgusting, I took my daughter to see a movie and you were the one who sold me the ticket, our feet stuck to the floor, it stunk and you had someone laying in a coffin who scared the bejezeesus out of my 9 year old. So even if you can't fix dirty seats maybe you should think about getting out a mop!
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Post by chevypower on Jul 28, 2014 22:41:07 GMT -6
Ouch, that left a mark? lol
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Jul 29, 2014 17:03:08 GMT -6
Ok here is your issue.....quit THINKING!!!! She has explained to you over and over, you saying "exposed himself to children" makes it sound like he ran up and flashed them. YOU saying a tourist got beat up sounds like some guy walking down the street got jumped, when in fact he was at the bar drinking and I am sure wasn't innocent in the incident. If it were someone up against a building, dumpster, or his vehicle, being discreet, I wouldn't call it exposing at all. However, when someone is so drunk that they go into the middle of the street, visible from several directions, pull thier peni s out of thier pants, and turn thier body back and forth as they urinate, with total disregard for who could be watching, and there are children present, then I feel that "exposing themselves to children" is an appropriate description. To turn "exposing themselves to children" into "a child molester targeting a family" is what I would call: exaggerating and blowing things out of proportion, loosing perspective I called the person who was beaten a tourist because I believe that is what he was, someone visiting from someplace else. After the incident was being investigated, I did receive a thank you card from the victim's girl friend for going to the state's attorney's office with the information that I had. The note was post marked from out of state, so I am pretty sure that he was indeed a tourist. Are you saying that if a person visiting our community goes into a bar and drinks, then they are no longer a tourist? I am certain from the video that it did not happen in the bar and that he was on the Main Street sidewalk. I did talk to someone who was present that night. I was told that the tourist was leaving when the attack happened, that a pipe or some type of bar was used on him, and that the attacker was a bar employee. I was also told that an officer told the tourist that nothing was going to be done about it because he was on someone else's turf, which is another reason that I like to use the term "tourist", since it seems that status allows people less rights here. I am curious as to how you are so sure that he was not innocent in the incident. What was it that he could have done to have been declared guilty and sentenced to such a brutal beating causing head trauma and hospitalization? You are sure that he is guilty in this matter, but were charges ever filed against him? Obviously the assailant felt that he was guilty of something too, yet it seems he didn't bother to call SPD, but convicted the tourist and carried out a sentence that he felt was appropriate. Is that the way that the US Constitution says things should be done, or is that document just null and void here in Streator? You give me the impression that you feel that the tourist got what he deserved. What was his crime? Do you support vigilante justice? I am confident that there are enough people here who feel that things shouldn't continue to be done this way and hopefully they will get out and vote for new leaders next year.
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Post by mommytoo4 on Jul 29, 2014 18:10:31 GMT -6
Ok here is your issue.....quit THINKING!!!! She has explained to you over and over, you saying "exposed himself to children" makes it sound like he ran up and flashed them. YOU saying a tourist got beat up sounds like some guy walking down the street got jumped, when in fact he was at the bar drinking and I am sure wasn't innocent in the incident. If it were someone up against a building, dumpster, or his vehicle, being discreet, I wouldn't call it exposing at all. However, when someone is so drunk that they go into the middle of the street, visible from several directions, pull thier peni s out of thier pants, and turn thier body back and forth as they urinate, with total disregard for who could be watching, and there are children present, then I feel that "exposing themselves to children" is an appropriate description. To turn "exposing themselves to children" into "a child molester targeting a family" is what I would call: exaggerating and blowing things out of proportion, loosing perspective I called the person who was beaten a tourist because I believe that is what he was, someone visiting from someplace else. After the incident was being investigated, I did receive a thank you card from the victim's girl friend for going to the state's attorney's office with the information that I had. The note was post marked from out of state, so I am pretty sure that he was indeed a tourist. Are you saying that if a person visiting our community goes into a bar and drinks, then they are no longer a tourist? I am certain from the video that it did not happen in the bar and that he was on the Main Street sidewalk. I did talk to someone who was present that night. I was told that the tourist was leaving when the attack happened, that a pipe or some type of bar was used on him, and that the attacker was a bar employee. I was also told that an officer told the tourist that nothing was going to be done about it because he was on someone else's turf, which is another reason that I like to use the term "tourist", since it seems that status allows people less rights here. I am curious as to how you are so sure that he was not innocent in the incident. What was it that he could have done to have been declared guilty and sentenced to such a brutal beating causing head trauma and hospitalization? You are sure that he is guilty in this matter, but were charges ever filed against him? Obviously the assailant felt that he was guilty of something too, yet it seems he didn't bother to call SPD, but convicted the tourist and carried out a sentence that he felt was appropriate. Is that the way that the US Constitution says things should be done, or is that document just null and void here in Streator? You give me the impression that you feel that the tourist got what he deserved. What was his crime? Do you support vigilante justice? I am confident that there are enough people here who feel that things shouldn't continue to be done this way and hopefully they will get out and vote for new leaders next year. Wow I almost got dizzy with that spin of words! Have a nice night Kyle, living in your fabricated world.
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Post by 007 on Jul 29, 2014 20:39:32 GMT -6
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Post by Kyle Mitchell on Jul 30, 2014 10:53:23 GMT -6
If it were someone up against a building, dumpster, or his vehicle, being discreet, I wouldn't call it exposing at all. However, when someone is so drunk that they go into the middle of the street, visible from several directions, pull thier peni s out of thier pants, and turn thier body back and forth as they urinate, with total disregard for who could be watching, and there are children present, then I feel that "exposing themselves to children" is an appropriate description. To turn "exposing themselves to children" into "a child molester targeting a family" is what I would call:I called the person who was beaten a tourist because I believe that is what he was, someone visiting from someplace else. After the incident was being investigated, I did receive a thank you card from the victim's girl friend for going to the state's attorney's office with the information that I had. The note was post marked from out of state, so I am pretty sure that he was indeed a tourist. Are you saying that if a person visiting our community goes into a bar and drinks, then they are no longer a tourist? I am certain from the video that it did not happen in the bar and that he was on the Main Street sidewalk. I did talk to someone who was present that night. I was told that the tourist was leaving when the attack happened, that a pipe or some type of bar was used on him, and that the attacker was a bar employee. I was also told that an officer told the tourist that nothing was going to be done about it because he was on someone else's turf, which is another reason that I like to use the term "tourist", since it seems that status allows people less rights here. I am curious as to how you are so sure that he was not innocent in the incident. What was it that he could have done to have been declared guilty and sentenced to such a brutal beating causing head trauma and hospitalization? You are sure that he is guilty in this matter, but were charges ever filed against him? Obviously the assailant felt that he was guilty of something too, yet it seems he didn't bother to call SPD, but convicted the tourist and carried out a sentence that he felt was appropriate. Is that the way that the US Constitution says things should be done, or is that document just null and void here in Streator? You give me the impression that you feel that the tourist got what he deserved. What was his crime? Do you support vigilante justice? I am confident that there are enough people here who feel that things shouldn't continue to be done this way and hopefully they will get out and vote for new leaders next year. Wow I almost got dizzy with that spin of words! Have a nice night Kyle, living in your fabricated world. It would be nice if it were just a fabrication, but I think that you know that the incidents did happen. I could post more video, communications with the State's Attorney's office, a brief newspaper account of the reduced charges, etc., things that would be hard to fabricate, but you go ahead and think that it is just my fabricated world if you want to. These incidents being allowed to continue does hurt business here. I think that these problems need to be corrected, even our Mayor recognized the lack of enforcement saying about these issues that he would love to have more officers on the street, but says that we can't afford it. He didn't offer any other solutions to the problem, telling me that I need to talk about the problem even more if I want the number of these incidents reduced. I hope that the candidates have some good solutions in mind in next year's election; I look forward to hearing them.
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