Common Core State Standards loom ahead, the last straw?

[chevypower]

It's bad enough that most students cant even add let alone explain how they come to a conclusion of a problem!

[chevypower]

get real America.

[Blue Star]

Jul 20, 2014 10:08:16 GMT -6 father of two said:

The money will come from the Ed fund. It will pull money away from somewhere it is needed more. Just another unfunded mandate.

So, why is this continuing? I've seen many posts/info online about/against it. Many other school districts, states are stopping it.

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Jul 23, 2014 12:31:16 GMT -6 Blue Star said:

Jul 20, 2014 10:08:16 GMT -6 father of two said:

The money will come from the Ed fund. It will pull money away from somewhere it is needed more. Just another unfunded mandate.

So, why is this continuing? I've seen many posts/info online about/against it. Many other school districts, states are stopping it.

Good question. The answer: not enough people give a $hit about the issue...yet. 

[OutlawwithaSnipeSniper]

Jul 23, 2014 9:40:51 GMT -6 butterbean said:

Jul 23, 2014 9:07:28 GMT -6 OutlawwithaSnipeSniper said:

The words to the Mike and the mechanics song "Silent Running" come to mind...........

There is an underground current running right now.

Not for nuthin', Sniper...do the American people realize that at least Obamacare was vetted by both the House and the Senate...while the complete overhaul and nationalization of our education system was voted on by NO legislative body whatsoever? What I just wrote is true. Does this sound like a familiar theme with this Leftist administration?

Obama's Race to the Top educational stimulus package in 2009 could only be obtained by signing on to the frigging Common Core Standards...before they were even finished being written!!!

Most states signed on because the content of the standards was as yet unknown and our states were strapped for cash. THAT'S BLACKMAIL and "bait and switch."

Money talks.

I don't disagree with anything you wrote.

That being said, until we can either correct the situation, or blow it up and start over, your best hope is to teach the children yourself, in parallel with the "official" state agenda.

Not everyone watches American Idol with their kids at night......

[OutlawwithaSnipeSniper]

Jul 23, 2014 13:09:41 GMT -6 butterbean said:

Jul 23, 2014 12:31:16 GMT -6 Blue Star said:

So, why is this continuing? I've seen many posts/info online about/against it. Many other school districts, states are stopping it.

Good question. The answer: not enough people give a $hit about the issue...yet. 

I don't think that is the prime reason.

Don't forget the current "outrage" of anyone against you when you question authority. Funny, these are the same a$$hats who raged against the system in the 60's.

It will take time to marginalize extremists such as Greek..........and Nancy and Barack.

We do need to come out swinging against them though.

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Jul 23, 2014 16:34:15 GMT -6 OutlawwithaSnipeSniper said:

Jul 23, 2014 13:09:41 GMT -6 butterbean said:

Good question. The answer: not enough people give a $hit about the issue...yet. 

I don't think that is the prime reason.

Don't forget the current "outrage" of anyone against you when you question authority. Funny, these are the same a$$hats who raged against the system in the 60's.

It will take time to marginalize extremists such as Greek..........and Nancy and Barack.

We do need to come out swinging against them though.

I agree...what the hell is THIS about, anyway?

It has to happen sooner or later.

[OutlawwithaSnipeSniper]

Jul 23, 2014 17:19:44 GMT -6 butterbean said:

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I agree...what the hell is THIS about, anyway?

It has to happen sooner or later.

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I'm not exactly sure what you refer to, if it is the words, it simply means we cannot be nice when we debate them.

This is WW2 all over, not Vietnam, when you pull the knife, go for the throat.

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"I agree...what the hell is THIS about, anyway?"

I wasn't very clear. I was agreeing with you while wondering out loud why all the fire has been beaten outa' people.

[OutlawwithaSnipeSniper]

Amen, I think we have all become very comfortable with the temperature of the pot.

[oldtimer]

Privitize schools.

Get the government out of educating children. Hell, get government out of as much as possible.

[Deleted]

Jul 20, 2014 10:08:16 GMT -6 father of two said:

The money will come from the Ed fund. It will pull money away from somewhere it is needed more. Just another unfunded mandate.

It looks to me like Superintendents and School Board members across Illinois are doing just what the school officials did in Nazi Germany...throwing up their hands, shrugging their shoulders with a "what can I do?" look on their faces...and then doing what the Masters tell them to do - out of fear, ignorance, apathy, or all three! Why sugar coat it? It's cowardly and wrong on every level you can think of.

What say YOU, Mr. School Board member? 

We’re talking about implementing new national standards and tests for every school and district in the country in the wake of dramatic changes in the national and state context for education reform. These changes include:

•A 10-year experiment in the use of federally mandated standards and tests called No Child Left Behind (NCLB) that has been almost universally acknowledged as a failure. (me: the CCSS nightmare will be EVEN MORE DIFFICULT TO IMPLEMENT,TEACH, AND TEST THAN THE NCLB DEFUNCT DEBACLE! DOES ANYONE OUT THERE USE COMMON EFFING SENSE ANYMORE?)

•The adoption of test-based teacher evaluation frameworks in dozens of states, largely as a result of federal mandates.

•Multiple rounds of budget cuts and layoffs that have left 34 of the 50 states providing less funding for education than they did five years ago, and the elimination of more than 300,000 teaching positions.

•A wave of privatization that has increased the number of publicly funded but privately run charter schools by 50 percent, while nearly 4,000 public schools have been closed in the same period.

•An appalling increase in the inequality and child poverty surrounding our schools, categories in which the United States leads the world and that tell us far more about the source of our educational problems than the uneven quality of state curriculum standards.

•A dramatic increase in the cost and debt burden of college access.

•A massively well-financed campaign of billionaires and politically powerful advocacy organizations that seeks to replace our current system of public education—which, for all its many flaws, is probably the most democratic institution we have and one that has done far more to address inequality, offer hope, and provide opportunity than the country’s financial, economic, political, and media institutions—with a market-based, non-unionized, privately managed system.

[father of two]

I don't like common core. If it would have been voted down by the board it still would have been implemented as the state approved it. Doing so here was a formality.

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Jul 25, 2014 16:22:21 GMT -6 father of two said:

I don't like common core. If it would have been voted down by the board it still would have been implemented as the state approved it. Doing so here was a formality.

I apologize for the harsh tone of my last post...I get all worked up when people get away with stuff like this...wreaking havoc for the sake of simple selfish greed...selling their turd of a Common Core Program as if it were a chocolate sundae that had brain enhancer sprinkles on top. 

Your stock just went up with me, but the fact remains that this nightmare was neither asked for or voted on by ANY legislative body.

The FIX is in and the educated idiots behind all this nonsense are pulling a fast one.

Did it ever occur to anyone that the wasted 10 years of No Child Left Behind standards were too hard for most of America's school populations...let alone these grossly inappropriate Common Core demands?

Please check out my thread with the 1st Grade Unit displayed for all to see for themselves what Common Core looks like.

[father of two]

Our district was involved in the suit dealing with NCLB conflicting with other federal guidelines for testing special need students at grade level instead of ability level. I didn't like it and don't care for all this newfangled way to do math. What worked years ago still works now.
There is no need to complicate things or reinvent them. If the Govt really wanted to help education and help kids learn they would put more money into it. More teachers and smaller class sizes are needed if we want kids to achieve. It seems that the focus went from letting teachers teach to teach what we need to pass these tests.