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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2014 7:40:50 GMT -6
Iraq...Afghanistan...lets get the hell out and stay out.
For the love of God...let's get a president in there next time with NO ties to corporations, banks, the military-industrial complex - with no favors to pay back or race/gender agendas to fulfill.
We can't go on this way...promoting confused, disoriented, and downright stupid international and national policies that leave the American public breathless with disbelief and despair.
Have we, the citizens of this marvelous nation, given up...forgotten the Dreams that forged this nation and the incredible sacrifices in human cost and treasure that our leaders take for granted and continue to squander as an afterthought in their personal quests and lust for power and wealth?
The REAL America is ready to defend the Homeland with everything it's got...let the Caliphate consolidate itself and just TRY to try to make the world Muslim. If we need to turn Syria, Iran, Iraq, and the rest of these pissant countries into parking lots in the next couple of years in order to survive as a nation, then so be it - IMO. And next time...no frigging "nation building"...just walk away.
We have a president who is waaaaaay out of his depth. There HAS to be a man or woman out there who can assemble an administration that is able to assist him/her in shouldering the mantle of responsibility that comes with leading the strongest nation and most democratic nation the world has ever witnessed.
My father used to "tear his hair out" in his position of leadership at a large university because of the goddamm insistence upon arriving at a "consensus" for decisions that affected the university. Rarely was the right decision implemented in that fashion. We need the very BEST America has to offer right now as our president. Smart, strong, intelligent - a LEADER, not a politician.
Man or woman...who could that be in 2016? Are Americans all going to be reading and writing in Arabic in a few decades? |
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Post by super on Jun 23, 2014 8:11:56 GMT -6
I suspect when "women control" comes to this country a few may change their tune.
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Post by evaryman on Jun 23, 2014 8:48:32 GMT -6
Thanks for an excellent post, BBean. I agree, and believe the problem has been & continues to be kept in place by the 2 powerful political parties. When decent candidates stand out in either party, if they are counter to the "party position" they are quickly removed from the public eye. I worked very hard for each of the major parties, only to realize the same problems existed in each one. Here & there, seemingly, as almost a fluke, a choice that is good for our nation gains approval. But that occurence is rare.
I would love to have a worthy candidate set forth by the big parties, but they seem more concerned with folks who openly express a desire for fame and to be remembered in history. Or equally unfit are those seeking an office in order to be "the first" whatever. My optimism is low at this point, but matters often surprise me, so possibly there will be a few fit candidates seeking election in 2016.
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Post by dumdave on Jun 23, 2014 9:12:40 GMT -6
If the GOP can't repair their schism, who ever gets the Dem. nod at their convention should be a shoe in like:
Wilson vs. Bull Moose and GOP
Clinton vs. the Peronists (Ross Perot's party) and the GOP
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Jun 23, 2014 15:07:40 GMT -6
Dave, so the Corporations don't rule the Dems?
There's the real answer, Democrats are delusional.........
Rand Paul for Prez............
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2014 15:46:48 GMT -6
Coming up with a coherent and workable party platform in this day and age is a daunting task, because of the enormous number of very real and very complex issues on the table...both domestically and abroad. I wish some type of coalition were possible between the Right and the Left in this country. I think we may be in political freefall now...our problems outweighing our ability to agree and implement solutions. The complete takeover of our social, economic, and political institutions by the government is ahead in the near future...within a decade or so.
We can't go on as a nation like we are currently doing and remain intact socially or politically.
What's next? Hell, it looks like Hillary effing Clinton. She's the best this country can do?
It's time to head for the hills.
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Post by cityslicker on Jun 23, 2014 17:50:56 GMT -6
Hilarious Clinton is just a carpetbagger, riding on her horny husbands zipper. She cherry picked her political home after the threesomes in D.C. There are still questions about
Mr. Foster, an intimate acquaintance of hers. Her Sec. of State work was a sham and cost many lives in Benghazi. Throw in her supposed concussion, to prevent her from testifying
and many other miscues, she is not qualified to answer, the phone at 3 in the morning.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2014 4:57:17 GMT -6
Hilarious Clinton is just a carpetbagger, riding on her horny husbands zipper. She cherry picked her political home after the threesomes in D.C. There are still questions about Mr. Foster, an intimate acquaintance of hers. Her Sec. of State work was a sham and cost many lives in Benghazi. Throw in her supposed concussion, to prevent her from testifying and many other miscues, she is not qualified to answer, the phone at 3 in the morning. Good points, slick. The problem remains with the citizens out there who say, "My family always votes Democrat...so I'm voting Democrat no matter who they run." Along with the "people of color" who see the Dems as the "rainbow" party that caters to their multiple specific interests.
Specifics and political savvy are meaningless with most voters. What matters is the particular propaganda put out by the two major parties and the perceptions generated in the minds of the voters.
Truth has nothing to do with anything.
A voter is either going to vote for handouts and a Welfare State or for a support system of limited scope and duration with personal responsibility as the bedrock philosophy.
That's way too simplistic a statement, I know. However, our voting public doesn't read policy papers or delve into issues much at all.
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Post by dumdave on Jun 24, 2014 7:54:59 GMT -6
Dave, so the Corporations don't rule the Dems? There's the real answer, Democrats are delusional......... Rand Paul for Prez............ Heck, Sniper, corperations own Congress, doesn't matter which party. Rand Paul has got to unite his party before he has a chance to win. The GOP has got to come up w/some fresh ideas because so far it has been united over just one issue . Anti-Obama. Well he is not running. |
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Post by helencrump on Jun 24, 2014 15:03:07 GMT -6
Thank God, because people would probably vote him in again.
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Jun 24, 2014 15:26:27 GMT -6
Heck, Sniper, corperations own Congress, doesn't matter which party. Rand Paul has got to unite his party before he has a chance to win. The GOP has got to come up w/some fresh ideas because so far it has been united over just one issue . Anti-Obama. Well he is not running. Rand needs to lead the revolution to TAKE the party back, there is no reasoning with the establishment Republicans. Evicting Cantor was a start, we shall see hoe today's voting went. If we also clean out Cochran, the establishment might just see the writing on the wall. I really wish you could elaborate on the comment about only being anti-Obama, because if that is all you have seen, you ain't looking. |
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Jun 24, 2014 15:28:29 GMT -6
Thank God, because people would probably vote him in again. Not a chance in Hades, even with the Media propping him up, his approvals are WAY below 50 percent.... last I saw he was in banger of breaking into the 30's, and we haven't had the big hit of health insurance policies being cancelled, that won't start in earnest until October of this year. |
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Post by otto on Jun 24, 2014 16:26:09 GMT -6
I gotta tell ya. I am really really worried about what will be left after two more years of the big brown O continuosly, systematically and without a care in the world , tearing the constitution to pieces.total disregard to due process. Someone. Anyone. Please take his pen away. And his successor, well, I am more than a little worried about that too.
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Post by helencrump on Jun 24, 2014 18:30:29 GMT -6
Thank God, because people would probably vote him in again. Not a chance in Hades, even with the Media propping him up, his approvals are WAY below 50 percent.... last I saw he was in banger of breaking into the 30's, and we haven't had the big hit of health insurance policies being cancelled, that won't start in earnest until October of this year. Everyone thought people would see the light in the last election. I've lost more faith in people's common sense, I guess. |
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Post by OutlawwithaSnipeSniper on Jun 25, 2014 7:01:55 GMT -6
Not a chance in Hades, even with the Media propping him up, his approvals are WAY below 50 percent.... last I saw he was in banger of breaking into the 30's, and we haven't had the big hit of health insurance policies being cancelled, that won't start in earnest until October of this year. Everyone thought people would see the light in the last election. I've lost more faith in people's common sense, I guess. Not really, without a totally soft adversary and outright voter fraud, he would not have gotten the second term. That election was what perfectly clarified my view that there is no real difference between the establishment Republicans and the Democrats. That it was even a contest does give one pause though..... |
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